Angels @ Red Sox (8/17--x2, 8/18, 8/19)

cmaff051 · Post #21 » by **cmaff051** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:52 pm

HeyIt'sMe wrote:I didn't catch the game today, but as someone who has seen James Shields pitch numerous times, from a RHP perspective, how good is Clay's? I know Santana and Hamels have devestating changeups, but they're both lefties. Shields had, IMHO, far and away the best righty changeup in the the AL before Bucholz came along, so I'm trying to get a feel on how good that pitch really is. I've never seen him pitch, but I've heard his change is really good.

It's just as good as Shields. The difference is, Buchholz has a better curveball than Shields.

HeyIt'sMe · Post #22 » by **HeyIt'sMe** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:06 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It's just as good as Shields. The difference is, Buchholz has a better curveball than Shields.

I wasn't comparing pitchers, just pitches. Bucholz is the better talent, but Shields' changeup is all world, so I was trying to get an opinion on how good Clay's was.

The changeup is my favorite pitch in baseball, so I appreciate pitchers who have a good one.

mr_sunshine · Post #23 » by **mr_sunshine** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:10 am

GAGNE STEPS UP TO RUIN THE DAY YET AGAIN! Wow, I hate that mother ****.

GreenerPastures · Post #24 » by **GreenerPastures** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:25 am

Eric Gagne has blown 3 games for us, and I have a feeling he isn't done.

BTW -- Youk got screwed on that mistaken K call.

The Rondo Show · Post #25 » by **The Rondo Show** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:15 pm

Was Tim Donaghy the home plate ump last night? That looked like Jim Donaghy at 1st base in the 9th, too.

cmaff051 · Post #26 » by **cmaff051** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:12 am

today was just disgusting. schilling, timlin and okajima were giving up at-em balls all day while the red sox got all the cheap hits at exactly the right time. disgusting. :noway:

SportsWorld · Post #27 » by **SportsWorld** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:11 am

Holy cow, Ortiz killed the ball tonight.
Huge win for you guys.

mr_sunshine · Post #28 » by **mr_sunshine** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:41 am

SportsWorld wrote:Holy cow, Ortiz killed the ball tonight.
Huge win for you guys.

Hopefully he's back on track now. The guys a champ, but playing injured all damn year.

The Rondo Show · Post #29 » by **The Rondo Show** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:17 pm

cmaff051 wrote:today was just disgusting. schilling, timlin and okajima were giving up at-em balls all day while the red sox got all the cheap hits at exactly the right time. disgusting.

Weren't you the one who claimed "it all evens out" when the cheap hits were going the Angels way on Friday?

And besides, with Mr. Bloop, Jorge Posada, on your team...you will have your fair share of cheap hits every year. Him and the guy who hit the cheapest HR in MLB history (Abreu) yesterday to give the Yankees the lead.

cmaff051 · Post #30 » by **cmaff051** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:44 pm

kobeSTOPkobeDONT wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Weren't you the one who claimed "it all evens out" when the cheap hits were going the Angels way on Friday?

And besides, with Mr. Bloop, Jorge Posada, on your team...you will have your fair share of cheap hits every year. Him and the guy who hit the cheapest HR in MLB history (Abreu) yesterday to give the Yankees the lead.

Dustin Pedroia is Mr. Bloop, Mr. Cheap Hit, Mr. Flare and Mr. Dunker. That guy gets so many cheap hits.

That Abreu HR is a Pesky Pole HR, which happens a good amount at Fenway.

Also, it certaintly didn't even out yesterday.

The Rondo Show · Post #31 » by **The Rondo Show** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:49 pm

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dustin Pedroia is Mr. Bloop, Mr. Cheap Hit, Mr. Flare and Mr. Dunker. That guy gets so many cheap hits.

That Abreu HR is a Pesky Pole HR, which happens a good amount at Fenway.

Also, it certaintly didn't even out yesterday.

Can you find me a site that shows the stats of that overrated reliever, Hideki Okajima? Thanks in advance, chief.

The Rondo Show · Post #32 » by **The Rondo Show** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:57 pm

Speaking of overrated......
Derek Jeter: .323 AVG, .391 OBP, .441 SLG, .832 OPS, $20M per year.
Dustin Pedroia: .324 AVG, .395 OBP, .449 SLG, .844 OPS, 500K per year.

Dustin Pedroia > Derek Jeter. That settles it, folks.

cmaff051 · Post #33 » by **cmaff051** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:35 pm

Okajima has been really lucky this year. Look at that hit rate, and then look at that strikeout rate. I expect a correction soon.

mr_sunshine · Post #34 » by **mr_sunshine** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:44 pm

cmaff051 wrote:Okajima has been really lucky this year. Look at that hit rate, and then look at that strikeout rate. I expect a correction soon.

You're just ridiculous.

jeff1624 · Post #35 » by **jeff1624** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:28 pm

kobeSTOPkobeDONT wrote:Speaking of overrated......
Derek Jeter: .323 AVG, .391 OBP, .441 SLG, .832 OPS, $20M per year.
Dustin Pedroia: .324 AVG, .395 OBP, .449 SLG, .844 OPS, 500K per year.

Dustin Pedroia > Derek Jeter. That settles it, folks.

Then I guess Matsui is a better hitter than Manny since he does have a higher OPS more homeruns and more Rbi's....

Oh and lugo 9 mil - .653 OBS - .241 avg - 16 errors....

HeelSox · Post #36 » by **HeelSox** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:24 am

Who said Lugo was good?

Post #37 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:02 am

Dustin Pedroia does get a lot of bloop hits. This is because he doesn't strikeout and if you get the bat on the ball, you are going to get a lot of cheap hits. Just ask Ichiro and Derek Jeter.

Post #38 » by **sunshinekids99** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:11 pm

HeelSox wrote:Who said Lugo was good?

After the All-Star break I'd say he's very good. Hitting .336 slugging .464 and a OPS of .833. If you take away just a horrible June, he would actually be having a good season.

HeelSox · Post #39 » by **HeelSox** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:52 pm

I meant in the field...oops.

Lugo batted something crazy like .393 during the month of July.