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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#701 » by god shammgod » Fri May 3, 2019 4:18 pm

a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#702 » by Phish Tank » Fri May 3, 2019 4:32 pm

god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


yup exactly.

Also, as you know, form matters over anything. Better off getting the form right at a lower weight or you'll end up like Porzingis
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#703 » by CharlesOakley » Fri May 3, 2019 6:17 pm

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Here's a question: how much do we think Frank is rocking there? 10lb for the big plates and 5 for the small ones. Say 5 for the bar. Is that really 35lb or are some of those plates doubled?


Bro - do you even lift? A bar is 45 lbs.
Exactly. Unless it is the light bar which is 15lbs, but Frank looks like he is using 145lbs there.

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Bad maths. He has a total of 75 lbs overhead. (Bar is 45 + 2x 10 + 2x 5) He isn't doing overhead squats, he is holding an overhead squat as he moves laterally. It's core/stability work, not strength work.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#704 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri May 3, 2019 6:22 pm

god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


If that's really a 10 lb. weight, then what do the 45 lb. plates look like?
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#705 » by GONYK » Fri May 3, 2019 6:28 pm

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god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


If that's really a 10 lb. weight, then what do the 45 lb. plates look like?


Those are bumper plates. They are rubbery and designed to all the be same size so when they are dropped, the force is distributed evenly.

Normal iron plates will change size depending on the weight.
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Post#706 » by F N 11 » Fri May 3, 2019 7:03 pm

Iman Shumpert is in the league and he had legit offensive talent. Frank would be fine.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#707 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri May 3, 2019 7:04 pm

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god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


yup exactly.

Also, as you know, form matters over anything. Better off getting the form right at a lower weight or you'll end up like Porzingis


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Post#708 » by taj2133 » Fri May 3, 2019 7:24 pm

F N 11 wrote:Iman Shumpert is in the league and he had legit offensive talent. Frank would be fine.

Did you see shumpert the other night he missed 5 three pointers in a row worse the warrriors, and shumpert offensive game at best was average but its below average right now. I said this earlier unless frank makes major progress on his offensive game that's the only way he stays on the knicks. Like i said before mills, perry, and fizdale don't have faith that frank is going to turn the corner and frank his better on some other team then being here.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#709 » by thebuzzardman » Fri May 3, 2019 7:25 pm

Phish Tank wrote:
god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


yup exactly.

Also, as you know, form matters over anything. Better off getting the form right at a lower weight or you'll end up like Porzingis


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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#710 » by F N 11 » Fri May 3, 2019 7:38 pm

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F N 11 wrote:Iman Shumpert is in the league and he had legit offensive talent. Frank would be fine.

Did you see shumpert the other night he missed 5 three pointers in a row worse the warrriors, and shumpert offensive game at best was average but its below average right now. I said this earlier unless frank makes major progress on his offensive game that's the only way he stays on the knicks. Like i said before mills, perry, and fizdale don't have faith that frank is going to turn the corner and frank his better on some other team then being here.

Iman had legit offensive talent and athleticism. I remember the hype around him during the lockout. If things pan out Frank is a viable piece. Think of Battier, Bowen, Smart, Tucker, and guys of that nature. Teams dont just get rid of guys like that just because. He just needs to sure up that jumper and he's in the league for years. Please do not sleep on this mans defense. I swear by his defensive numbers when paired with Mitch and another big who will not be named.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#711 » by prophet_of_rage » Fri May 3, 2019 7:42 pm

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Bro - do you even lift? A bar is 45 lbs.
Exactly. Unless it is the light bar which is 15lbs, but Frank looks like he is using 145lbs there.

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Bad maths. He has a total of 75 lbs overhead. (Bar is 45 + 2x 10 + 2x 5) He isn't doing overhead squats, he is holding an overhead squat as he moves laterally. It's core/stability work, not strength work.
Yeah, I didn't look at the numbers just the size of the plates. He is holding no more than 75 lbs over his head.

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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#712 » by god shammgod » Fri May 3, 2019 7:43 pm

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prophet_of_rage wrote:
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Bro - do you even lift? A bar is 45 lbs.
Exactly. Unless it is the light bar which is 15lbs, but Frank looks like he is using 145lbs there.

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Bad maths. He has a total of 75 lbs overhead. (Bar is 45 + 2x 10 + 2x 5) He isn't doing overhead squats, he is holding an overhead squat as he moves laterally. It's core/stability work, not strength work.


this is unimportant but i don't think he's moving laterally. his heels are elevated.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#713 » by Nazrmohamed » Fri May 3, 2019 11:56 pm

god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


And it was being done on a slide bar (correct me on the name). So I doubt it was about measuring his squat strength and more about strengthening his balance and secondary muscles
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#714 » by prophet_of_rage » Sat May 4, 2019 1:59 am

Nazrmohamed wrote:
god shammgod wrote:a standard olympic bar is 45. but nowadays they make plates that look like 45s that are actually 25s or 10s. those clearly say 10 lbs on them. that being said, the overhead squat is difficult if you're just learning it. you can be pretty strong and still suck at it.


And it was being done on a slide bar (correct me on the name). So I doubt it was about measuring his squat strength and more about strengthening his balance and secondary muscles
Yeah, basketball strength and conditioning focusses on core strength mostly now.

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Post#715 » by HEZI » Sat May 4, 2019 5:55 pm

How do I take you seriously Frank when your trainer looks like a hair stylist?

Dude is wearing jeans, loafers, a tucked t shirt with a rooster on it? And I'm supposed to take this workout seriously? Cmon man
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Post#716 » by gavran » Sat May 4, 2019 6:05 pm

HEZI wrote:How do I take you seriously Frank when your trainer looks like a hair stylist?

Dude is wearing jeans, loafers, a tucked t shirt with a rooster on it? And I'm supposed to take this workout seriously? Cmon man

Yeah, there is strong correlation between the clothes your trainer is wearing, and the workout routine he is giving you.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#717 » by HEZI » Sat May 4, 2019 6:33 pm

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HEZI wrote:How do I take you seriously Frank when your trainer looks like a hair stylist?

Dude is wearing jeans, loafers, a tucked t shirt with a rooster on it? And I'm supposed to take this workout seriously? Cmon man

Yeah, there is strong correlation between the clothes your trainer is wearing, and the workout routine he is giving you.


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Post#718 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat May 4, 2019 6:46 pm

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Here's a question: how much do we think Frank is rocking there? 10lb for the big plates and 5 for the small ones. Say 5 for the bar. Is that really 35lb or are some of those plates doubled?


Bro - do you even lift? A bar is 45 lbs.

Yeah, I initially thought it was one of the lighter bars and then further confused myself translating between lbs and kgs. :nonono: But on second thoughts it does look like a 45lb bar - so yes probably 75lb total.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#719 » by Da_Mane_Man » Sat May 4, 2019 7:05 pm

HEZI wrote:How do I take you seriously Frank when your trainer looks like a hair stylist?

Dude is wearing jeans, loafers, a tucked t shirt with a rooster on it? And I'm supposed to take this workout seriously? Cmon man


lol i didn't even notice that. dude is wearing loafers :lol:

but Frank is rockin the Romaleos though. he's definitely squatting.

edit: also, those shorts are :onfire: i want a pair
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Post#720 » by remi_222 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:15 pm

Great news for Frank, got into the 15 players for the World Cup, Coach Collet said he would have a chance to show defensively the impact that he can have !

PG :
Thomas Heurtel (Barcelona) – Andrew Albicy (Andorra) – Frank Ntilikina (NYC)
SG/ SF
Nando De Colo (CSKA Moscow) – Nicolas Batum (Charlotte) – Evan Fournier (Orlando) – Paul Lacombe (Monaco) – Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot (Chicago) – Axel Toupane (Olympiacos)
PF/C :
Rudy Gobert (Utah) – Adrien Moerman (Anadolu Efes) – Louis Labeyrie (Valencia) – Amath M’Baye (Bologna) – Mathias Lessort (Malaga) – Vincent Poirier (Baskonia)

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