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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#441 » by Jaqua92 » Sat May 4, 2019 4:23 am

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What is a personality suited for stardom?

Do you want him to punch Tatum in the face and go get wasted gambling all night?

Should he pave a new driveway for himself and throw out his back shortening his career for years?

Even dudes like Magic have PR nightmares. And no actual personality.

On court is what matters in this league.

Idk about Kyrie, I doubt he would understand anyof it but this forum should read some Foucault.
An extroverted personality, someone who thrones off attention, someone theatrical etc..Kyrie is an introspective thinker. For people like this, there's an entire internal world just as relevant as the external world. I'm one of them. One of the greatest challenges of people like this is to get these worlds to align. I've been lucky enough to spend some time studying Buddhism, to have years of counseling, and pursuit my masters in counseling/counseling psychology for eventual state licensure. This "alignment" can be challenging, but I have the skills, tools, and insight to grow with them.

A maladaptive way this alignment happens is actually a focus of Gestalt Therapy (which I've mentioned he would benefit from before), some people try to get the external world to change..try to manipulate it in order to meet their internal world in the moment, opposed to allowing them to exist simultaneously. Kyrie does this, and then rationalizes his failures by telling us he wants to grow, and tries to validate himself externally by talking about how he doesn't need validation..but he does, he's seaking it out. He's a sensitive dude who's a bit insecure, easily overwhelmed, and a bit paranoid..but he can present himself by rationalizing it instead being so codependent on others, like KD. But it's still not most healthy way to handle this kind of functionality.

My point is, someone like Kyrie by nature has a more difficult time in front of the bright lights when everything he does is so scrutinized. He's forced to learn on his own, and it's hard to focus on your mental health when you are a pro star athlete. I don't think Kyrie INTENDS to be phony. But he acts like someone who could some day have a mild psychotic break and just become delusional

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Idk what kind of personality balancing, abstract dick measuring contest we are apparently having but sure, I agree with all of this outside of the relevance of Buddhism. I have a similar personality. Everyone should undergo counseling/therapy.


You have never analyzed or talked to Kyrie as a patient in any professional sense. To suggest he could have a mild psychotic break is unprofessional at worst and inherently inaccurate at best. It's also offensive to guys like Delonte who suffered from real mental illness and are already seriously stigmatized my society.

I live in the real world where things are not boiled down to soundbites and clips we watch online. The real world where Jordan punches out Kerr and it helps the Bulls win it all again.

Save me your "Jeff Green is on Benzodiazepines" thread PT 2 ft. Buddha.
What? You asked what I meant by personality, and I answered, happy to share my thoughts and opinions on him, as well as share how I've had my own struggles. This is by no means a dick measuring contest and was quite literally the opposite, I'm sorry that you took it that way.

As far as Kyrie, I'm not making a legitimate professional case or assessment of the guy or diagnosing him lol it was just a passing observation based off predispositioned traits I have seen in people who are psychotic, and there's nothing unethetical about that. I'm not saying that will happen, probably won't. Just a fleeting observation.

I've worked in the mental health field for a while, and always have advocated for mental health..been around it. Sister is epileptic, been around alcoholism, mother has PTSD, father has a personality disorder, so believe me that advocacy is important to me and I appreciate you identifying with that and recognizing it. I apologize if my post bothered you. However do not appreciate you questioning my professionalism based off a comment. It's a misunderstanding, and I'm drawing a line there. I like you and enjoy your posts, so this particular conversation has run it's course.



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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#442 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Sat May 4, 2019 4:25 am

I would feel better if this team beat the bucks about Irving staying. Not going to happen and you can't think Irving is looking at this roster thinking he has a chance winning a title with this roster.

Outside chance if a longshot Davis trade happens he stays but as far as I am concerned dude is down to his last 2 or 3 games here.
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Post#443 » by wco81 » Sat May 4, 2019 7:27 am

During and after the Indy series, Kyrie seemed to be very positive about staying.

If this Buck series doesn't work out, he may not feel that great about staying, especially if he teams up with KD in NY or wherever as people have speculated.

He said more than once that he's not going to shoot 8-22 again. Also said he's going to go to the hole and plan to expect contact. But he will finish whether or not that contact is called.

Would the Celtics want to give him a max contract if he doesn't lead the team to at least 6 or 7 games in this series and shoot at least 45/37/85?
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Post#444 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat May 4, 2019 11:01 am

wco81 wrote:During and after the Indy series, Kyrie seemed to be very positive about staying.

If this Buck series doesn't work out, he may not feel that great about staying, especially if he teams up with KD in NY or wherever as people have speculated.

He said more than once that he's not going to shoot 8-22 again. Also said he's going to go to the hole and plan to expect contact. But he will finish whether or not that contact is called.

Would the Celtics want to give him a max contract if he doesn't lead the team to at least 6 or 7 games in this series and shoot at least 45/37/85?


The Celtics would give him whatever contract he wants if we lose the next two games by 50.
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Post#445 » by Floody100 » Sat May 4, 2019 11:09 am

Too many of you guys are falling for the media’s trap. They desperately want Kyrie to go to NY, what would they know anyway & how many times have they been wrong about player movements lol ?
I’ll say it again .... STOP LISTENING TO THE MEDIA.
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Post#446 » by cloverleaf » Sat May 4, 2019 11:33 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I would feel better if this team beat the bucks about Irving staying. Not going to happen and you can't think Irving is looking at this roster thinking he has a chance winning a title with this roster.

Outside chance if a longshot Davis trade happens he stays but as far as I am concerned dude is down to his last 2 or 3 games here.


So many other factors, too. KD probably the biggest one, but JT not really shining in the playoffs may make staying here with him a little less of a draw. If Kyrie ends up going down ugly in this series, he may also feel a little less comfortable returning to this locker room next year.

Still, if KD doesn't go to the Knicks and Danny can swing AD, Boston should look a lot better to Kyrie. I wouldn't rule out the Clips or the Nets making some drastic moves to get the space for Kyrie and KD, if somehow that could be managed.
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Post#447 » by Gooner » Sat May 4, 2019 11:40 am

I think Kyrie will stay. He seems to me like he just stopped caring about outside noises, reputation and stuff like that, and he just wants to be in good environment. He apologized to his teammates, and he has been very supportive of Brad lately aswell. He looked very calm and positive after this loss, so there is definitely a change in attitude.
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Post#448 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun May 5, 2019 6:51 am

It's interesting about the psych stuff - everyone knows the Goldwater rule because of Trump, and it is questionable to "diagnose" from afar - but with athletes and celebrities, armchair psychology and personality profiling happen all the time. KG's "intensity" and Jordan's "competitiveness" aren't typical either.

The interest in - and more and more support for - mental health is great, for pro athletes and everyone - and technically everyone has "mental health".. but.. why isn't it just a skill/experience issue with Kyrie? He's young, he's the "star" for the first time, like he wanted -he doesn't have Lebron soaking up media attention - he's leading a very young team - there's ego for Jaylen and Jayson, and for Kyrie, too - so Irving is a player who, for the first time, has to really be making choices about what to say, when, to his teammates and to the media, reflecting on how his behavior looks to other people, all dealing with free agent speculation for the first time in his career, after he was very circumspect in getting a trade out of Cleveland.. It's understandable he'd have some miscues, and moments where he goes off script and just says what he's thinking..
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Post#449 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun May 5, 2019 7:03 am

Gooner wrote:I think Kyrie will stay. He seems to me like he just stopped caring about outside noises, reputation and stuff like that, and he just wants to be in good environment. He apologized to his teammates, and he has been very supportive of Brad lately aswell. He looked very calm and positive after this loss, so there is definitely a change in attitude.


Probably realizing he doesn't have to do everything.. He had a good talk with Danny, I think, a couple of months ago..

We're in great shape if he re-ups at midnight on July 1st.. he may want to do the whole tour first..

The most interesting thing about Kyrie, to me, is that if he wants to, he can get much better over the next 2-3 years, at drawing fouls off the dribble, and at mixing his scoring, passing and playmaking even more effectively..
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Post#450 » by Gooner » Sun May 5, 2019 8:24 am

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Gooner wrote:I think Kyrie will stay. He seems to me like he just stopped caring about outside noises, reputation and stuff like that, and he just wants to be in good environment. He apologized to his teammates, and he has been very supportive of Brad lately aswell. He looked very calm and positive after this loss, so there is definitely a change in attitude.


Probably realizing he doesn't have to do everything.. He had a good talk with Danny, I think, a couple of months ago..

We're in great shape if he re-ups at midnight on July 1st.. he may want to do the whole tour first..

The most interesting thing about Kyrie, to me, is that if he wants to, he can get much better over the next 2-3 years, at drawing fouls off the dribble, and at mixing his scoring, passing and playmaking even more effectively..


Yeah, this is his second season in Boston, and he got injured last year. He will only get better with time, as he gets more comfortable with his teammates and coach.
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Post#451 » by Red2 » Sun May 5, 2019 4:26 pm

Kyrie wants to be the man so here’s his chance .
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Post#452 » by Green89 » Sun May 5, 2019 4:58 pm

Red2 wrote:Kyrie wants to be the man so here’s his chance .


Two straight losses and their backs up against a wall, this will be a defining game in Kyrie's Celtics career.
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Post#453 » by wco81 » Mon May 6, 2019 2:56 pm

Bill Simmons said maybe Celtics best player can’t be a smaller guard cause NBA playoffs history doesn’t show too many smaller players dominating.

Only example he can think of is Isaiah Thomas.
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Post#454 » by exculpatory » Mon May 6, 2019 3:16 pm

SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK OF THIS ****.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/253645/Kyrie-Irving-Could-Prefer-Nets-Over-Knicks

I know the media distorts & agitates. And they disgust me.

However, if this has even some truth to it, my message to Kyrie:

GTFO NOW & don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

We are the Boston **** Celtics.
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Post#455 » by Parliament10 » Mon May 6, 2019 3:49 pm





Dear Kyrie,

I Know You ain't going Nowhere.
I Heard you the First time.


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Post#456 » by jmr07019 » Mon May 6, 2019 4:43 pm

Unnamed sources lol. Either put your name behind it or stfu
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Post#457 » by etw926 » Mon May 6, 2019 4:44 pm

wco81 wrote:Bill Simmons said maybe Celtics best player can’t be a smaller guard cause NBA playoffs history doesn’t show too many smaller players dominating.

Only example he can think of is Isaiah Thomas.

Iverson & Curry?
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Post#458 » by klemen4 » Mon May 6, 2019 6:41 pm

I would have no problem if Kyrie leaves. Never liked the guy.

IT was better and areally bleed green, miss the guy.

Kyrie, well fancy dribbles and tough shots, but no way he can be a NB.1 that leads championship team. If we add his personality, well...he will not be missed if he leaves.
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Post#459 » by Jaqua92 » Mon May 6, 2019 6:51 pm

klemen4 wrote:I would have no problem if Kyrie leaves. Never liked the guy.

IT was better and areally bleed green, miss the guy.

Kyrie, well fancy dribbles and tough shots, but no way he can be a NB.1 that leads championship team. If we add his personality, well...he will not be missed if he leaves.
IT is absolutely not better. And that guy did not bleed green. He bled IT. It was all self-serving.

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Post#460 » by Captain_Caveman » Mon May 6, 2019 7:20 pm

wco81 wrote:Bill Simmons said maybe Celtics best player can’t be a smaller guard cause NBA playoffs history doesn’t show too many smaller players dominating.

Only example he can think of is Isaiah Thomas.


He's still alive? Tell him we are trying to trade for AD, lol.

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