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Post#181 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon May 6, 2019 5:19 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
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That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.
Yeah while he would be a absolute upgrade over what they have I don't think Murray and booker would be a great long term pairing. Honestly I'd rather just try to get Beal in a deal like this.

I do think Denver is a team to watch for a big trade this summer. They have some pieces that could make sense to package for another star. I think they could be a dark horse AD landing spot.

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Funny, aren't we supposed to get a really high draft pick this summer? Why aren't we a dark horse for AD?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/video/anthony-davis-talks-about-monty-williams-and-his-impact-video/vi-BBSRDu4
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Post#182 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon May 6, 2019 5:32 pm

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I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.
Yeah while he would be a absolute upgrade over what they have I don't think Murray and booker would be a great long term pairing. Honestly I'd rather just try to get Beal in a deal like this.

I do think Denver is a team to watch for a big trade this summer. They have some pieces that could make sense to package for another star. I think they could be a dark horse AD landing spot.

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Funny, aren't we supposed to get a really high draft pick this summer? Why aren't we a dark horse for AD?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/video/anthony-davis-talks-about-monty-williams-and-his-impact-video/vi-BBSRDu4
Denver was a two seed and the suns had the worst record in the West. They are obviously much closer to contending and have a much deeper pool of players they can package and take a risk on a guy who could walk in a year.

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Post#183 » by BobbieL » Mon May 6, 2019 5:41 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Yeah while he would be a absolute upgrade over what they have I don't think Murray and booker would be a great long term pairing. Honestly I'd rather just try to get Beal in a deal like this.

I do think Denver is a team to watch for a big trade this summer. They have some pieces that could make sense to package for another star. I think they could be a dark horse AD landing spot.

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Funny, aren't we supposed to get a really high draft pick this summer? Why aren't we a dark horse for AD?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/video/anthony-davis-talks-about-monty-williams-and-his-impact-video/vi-BBSRDu4
Denver was a two seed and the suns had the worst record in the West. They are obviously much closer to contending and have a much deeper pool of players they can package and take a risk on a guy who could walk in a year.

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I still think the Suns will have to play in the 2nd tier pool of players. Be fiscally pragmatic with their FA dollar. Aminu and Collison and I would be very happy with the FA signings. That doesn't mean I wouldn't want to aim higher - just that the Suns need to be smart about . Other teams might be better options in FA and other teams might have better players to trade.
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Post#184 » by Kerrsed » Mon May 6, 2019 10:05 pm

Stein reports that the Mavs had “internal discussions” about Patrick Beverley. He also notes that Beverley’s performance in the opening round of the playoffs has every team chatting about the merits of adding him.

Beverley’s standout perimeter defense coupled with the fact that he doesn’t need to handle the ball fits perfectly in Dallas. Luka Doncic can run the offense. Beverley would defend the opposition’s best guard and be a spot-up shooter on the offensive end.

Stay tuned for the latest on the Mavericks interest in Beverley in the coming weeks.


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Post#185 » by Crives » Mon May 6, 2019 10:08 pm

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Stein reports that the Mavs had “internal discussions” about Patrick Beverley. He also notes that Beverley’s performance in the opening round of the playoffs has every team chatting about the merits of adding him.

Beverley’s standout perimeter defense coupled with the fact that he doesn’t need to handle the ball fits perfectly in Dallas. Luka Doncic can run the offense. Beverley would defend the opposition’s best guard and be a spot-up shooter on the offensive end.

Stay tuned for the latest on the Mavericks interest in Beverley in the coming weeks.


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Post#186 » by Frank Lee » Mon May 6, 2019 10:55 pm

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Post#187 » by Saberestar » Mon May 6, 2019 11:02 pm

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Stein reports that the Mavs had “internal discussions” about Patrick Beverley. He also notes that Beverley’s performance in the opening round of the playoffs has every team chatting about the merits of adding him.

Beverley’s standout perimeter defense coupled with the fact that he doesn’t need to handle the ball fits perfectly in Dallas. Luka Doncic can run the offense. Beverley would defend the opposition’s best guard and be a spot-up shooter on the offensive end.

Stay tuned for the latest on the Mavericks interest in Beverley in the coming weeks.


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Post#189 » by bwgood77 » Mon May 6, 2019 11:26 pm

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proedros1908 wrote:https://www.inquisitr.com/5424602/nba-rumors-nuggets-could-acquire-bradley-beal-in-three-team-deal-with-suns-wizards-per-bleacher-report/


That's.. actually a pretty good win for everyone involved. Beal is a '2 in bush vs 1 in hand' situation for Denver (Murry and what could be with MPJr) with Beal being better than the 2 combined. Obviously a win for us since we don't need rookies anymore, we need a PG with then us keeping Warren and JJ, and Wiz with upgraded young talent to get a high pick and hopefully either unload Wall or hope that he comes back at maybe ~80% capacity of what he was and they have a young core to help be competitive next season.

Seems cool, but I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't get the deal. Why wouldn't the Wiz prefer Murray as a long-term Beal replacement, and the second-best talent in the trade? For us, we need a PG, but Murray's a scorer, not a distributor or defender. We're trading basically our only good defensive rotation player for another guy who can't play defense. Obviously, it's great for us in terms of value, which just begs the question why the Wizards would agree to it.

Looks weird to me, so I too would only believe it when I see it.


Yeah, Denver has been taking him out on defense at the end of games down the stretch vs Portland. Would be nice offensively for us but we wouldn't stop anyone (not that we do anyway).
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Post#190 » by Crives » Tue May 7, 2019 1:18 am

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Post#191 » by TheLogician » Tue May 7, 2019 1:21 am

I was hoping Jones had a trade in mind. He downplayed the draft and hired a veteran coach. He should have a fundamentally different strategy than McDonough, otherwise we're just continuing the timeline with Jones' picks.
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Post#192 » by Crives » Tue May 7, 2019 1:21 am

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Post#194 » by darealjuice » Tue May 7, 2019 2:21 am

This is going to be a very interesting offseason. Good chance there's some major landscape shifts in the league come the start of next season.
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Post#195 » by BobbieL » Tue May 7, 2019 2:40 am

darealjuice wrote:This is going to be a very interesting offseason. Good chance there's some major landscape shifts in the league come the start of next season.


I agree. If KD, Kyrie and Kemba switch teams - will be interesting. Klay probably stays and Woj said Akashi might stay.

I think I have more faith in Jones Bower with Monty than Ryan last year. At least I hope so!!
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Post#196 » by Blonde » Tue May 7, 2019 3:00 am

I think that Denver-Washington-Phoenix 3 way trade is a reasonable type of trade we could see go down this summer, but I absolutely would not do it. Don’t think Murray will ever reach Beal levels in any facet of the game so I’d much prefer just getting Beal, and bet on him re-signing in a couple years. The whole “but the Suns need a PG argument” doesn’t work because Beal is a way better PG than Murray is.
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Post#197 » by NapoleonII » Tue May 7, 2019 5:28 am

Is Murray on the trading block?

What am I missing? He's dropping 30 points in the playoffs and winning. Why would Denver trade him?
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Post#198 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue May 7, 2019 6:27 am

NapoleonII wrote:Is Murray on the trading block?

What am I missing? He's dropping 30 points in the playoffs and winning. Why would Denver trade him?


Nope, Just a rumor/ trade idea from a writer on the enquisitor. It's not bad value overall, But really not likely to happen, as I just don't see Washington being willing to move Beal with Wall's situation being such a negative. :dontknow:
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Post#199 » by Qwigglez » Tue May 7, 2019 6:55 am

That three team trade is interesting, but like someone else mentioned why wouldn't the Wizards just take Murray and MPJ? The value is completely off for the Wizards, and if I was their in front office, that offer wouldn't entice me to move Beal. From the Suns perspective, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. We could go back to the SSOL days just launching threes.

This summer could be huge for the entirety of the league. Really hoping Durant goes East, and would be nice if Klay goes East too, but I'll be fine if the Warriors go back to just Steph-Klay-Dramyond. Kemba/Kawhi/Kyrie hopefully stay in the East. And every other top free agent too.
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Post#200 » by juanc » Tue May 7, 2019 7:22 am

Saberestar wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
Stein reports that the Mavs had “internal discussions” about Patrick Beverley. He also notes that Beverley’s performance in the opening round of the playoffs has every team chatting about the merits of adding him.

Beverley’s standout perimeter defense coupled with the fact that he doesn’t need to handle the ball fits perfectly in Dallas. Luka Doncic can run the offense. Beverley would defend the opposition’s best guard and be a spot-up shooter on the offensive end.

Stay tuned for the latest on the Mavericks interest in Beverley in the coming weeks.


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I think that the Mavs can get both Kemba and PatBev, and I think those 2 would be just what they need.

When it comes to Suns and the cheaper options, what about Darren Collison from Indiana? I also think that Rubio could work, since he plays D and can pass. The Suns have other offensive options like Booker, Ayton, TJ and so on..

Or a guy I really like - Malcolm Brogdon. The Buck are gonna lose one of their free agents and I think it's Brog, since they are doing great in the PO without him. He can pass and he can play some D.The only problem is that I think he is going to get overpaid(around 20mil) wich is to much IMO

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