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Post#421 » by SmoothLefty21 » Fri May 10, 2019 4:13 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:The Warriors are the Warriors but seeing how inefficient the Rockets are against Golden State with Capela on the floor does not bode well for playoff Mitch unless he develops a post-up game. We'll see if the league is going to keep trending towards bigs-less basketball in the postseason or if this just specific to the Warriors.

I'm not overreacting and saying players like Mitch are doomed, but his development as a player as the league continues to change will be interesting to see. He's so far away from playing in a significant NBA game (aka playoffs) at this stage that it's still hard to project how he'll fare in high-stakes games.

Still very confident in him obviously, but the Capela on/off stats against Golden State caught my attention.


Mitch should be a better all-around defender. He's quicker than Capela and should be much more effective in switches; he's also more explosive and quicker off his feet. We're hoping he's a bigger, more athletic, and better version of Capela. Even guys like Gobert, as great as they are defensively in the regular season, worry me in the playoffs because of their lack of lateral quickness. I'm hoping to avoid that concern with Mitch.
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Post#422 » by awy » Fri May 10, 2019 4:24 pm

going by play type data on mitch's defense, he was pretty good at switching onto pnr ball handlers.

it's the pick and pops that's been killing him, probably need to work on that a lot. anthony tolliver destroyed him, anyone remember?
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Post#423 » by thebuzzardman » Fri May 10, 2019 8:40 pm

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awy wrote:being an on ball creator at the nba level requires much higher skills than just 'pretty good' and it's harder for mitch's high build. (also a point against bol bol)

but for stuff like developing a corner 3 and attacking closeouts i think the baseline is lower. he could potentially get there and diversify his offensive game in a way that scales into more situations in the playoffs.


Just doing stuff like being able to add the "Kurt Thomas" jumper would be huge. Changes the entire complexion of the P&R. I realize that everyone wants everyone to shoot 3's but that midrange jumper I think would initally be more impactful.


any jumper makes mitch a serious problem. if you have to play him close enough where he can get a step, forget it.


Exactly. And he flashed a jumper just a handful of times the past year, but it looks good. I could be wrong, but that limited evidence, combined with his creativity on some of moves - some of those scoops and banks and finger rolls - that's gym rat adjustment kind of stuff. I think he does it. But I'd take tall Capela as well.
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Re: Official Mitchell Robinson Thread 

Post#424 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri May 10, 2019 9:12 pm

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Just doing stuff like being able to add the "Kurt Thomas" jumper would be huge. Changes the entire complexion of the P&R. I realize that everyone wants everyone to shoot 3's but that midrange jumper I think would initally be more impactful.


any jumper makes mitch a serious problem. if you have to play him close enough where he can get a step, forget it.


Exactly. And he flashed a jumper just a handful of times the past year, but it looks good. I could be wrong, but that limited evidence, combined with his creativity on some of moves - some of those scoops and banks and finger rolls - that's gym rat adjustment kind of stuff. I think he does it. But I'd take tall Capela as well.


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Post#425 » by Knickmyballz » Sun May 12, 2019 10:25 am

Mitch is 20-21 a block monster and will likely be a better Capela for us. Let’s not imagine him as Embid light or a future 3p Gawd.
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Post#426 » by Knickmyballz » Sun May 12, 2019 10:26 am

And for a 36th pick and contract friendly big count our blessings!!!
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Post#427 » by Context » Sun May 12, 2019 12:23 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:The Warriors are the Warriors but seeing how inefficient the Rockets are against Golden State with Capela on the floor does not bode well for playoff Mitch unless he develops a post-up game. We'll see if the league is going to keep trending towards bigs-less basketball in the postseason or if this just specific to the Warriors.

I'm not overreacting and saying players like Mitch are doomed, but his development as a player as the league continues to change will be interesting to see. He's so far away from playing in a significant NBA game (aka playoffs) at this stage that it's still hard to project how he'll fare in high-stakes games.

Still very confident in him obviously, but the Capela on/off stats against Golden State caught my attention.


Mitch should be a better all-around defender. He's quicker than Capela and should be much more effective in switches; he's also more explosive and quicker off his feet. We're hoping he's a bigger, more athletic, and better version of Capela. Even guys like Gobert, as great as they are defensively in the regular season, worry me in the playoffs because of their lack of lateral quickness. I'm hoping to avoid that concern with Mitch.

you dont have to hope- HE IS BETTER than those guys today- THEY ONLY HAVE NBA EXPERIENCE OVER Mitch -today...And as you
saw last season- Mitch is a quick learner...Let me say this also- Mitch may develop an offensive game as well...I wont make predictions
on that aspect because I don't know what his goals are but WHATEVER they are- he will accomplish them...

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Post#428 » by thebuzzardman » Tue May 14, 2019 10:27 am

Getting Mitch shows just how much a FO being smart, then lucky matters. It also illustrates how role players get extra hype when they are on really good teams. Actually, that example would be Clint Capela. Do I think Capela is really good? Yes. In a role player kind of way. Like Mitch. Clint gets all star recognition (this year) and a lot of talk, half on being good, and half because it's the Rockets and they are winning. Maybe I'm not articulating it well. Sort of how Mitch got buzz around the league for being good but the Knicks weren't that good, Capela got as a similar young player, but I feel Capela got some extra notice as Rockets were/are good during his time there.

Absolutely feel that Capela is at LEAST Mitch's arc - Mitch's rookie year matches Capela's 2nd year, in terms of #'s, very closely, and both players were 20 years of age. With Mitch ahead in FG% and blocked shots. Pretty sure Mitch's 2nd year can Match Capela's 3rd season, maybe surpass it slightly, in his 2nd season.

And Mitch did all this playing with an assortment of point guards who I think it's pretty easy to say aren't quite as good as James Harden :-)
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Post#429 » by Cookies4Life » Tue May 14, 2019 12:34 pm

I really don't see much of Capela's game when comparing to Robinson.

Mitchell is faster, more athletic and the one attribute he has over basically every big man in the league is his motor. He had some stamina issues throughout the year (especially early on,) but he always plays with such a high level of energy when he's out there.

Capela also has the luxury of playing with two playmakers that involve him in the PnR game. Money Mitch got the majority of his baskets from putbacks. The team rarely got him involved on offensive sets yet he was still able to be productive on that end with the minimal shots he received.

He has a chance to be a monster. His improvement on his stamina and conditioning should be his priority this offseason.
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Post#432 » by F N 11 » Tue May 21, 2019 6:06 pm

They go off of stats so I get it. But off impact he should of been 1st team. Better be in rising stars game.
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Post#433 » by shtolky » Tue May 21, 2019 6:32 pm

Have the top five picks ever made the all rookie first team before?
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Post#434 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue May 21, 2019 6:51 pm

F N 11 wrote:They go off of stats so I get it. But off impact he should of been 1st team. Better be in rising stars game.


which frontcourt player does mitch knock out of the first team in your opinion?
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Post#435 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue May 21, 2019 6:52 pm

good stuff, money mitch!
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Post#437 » by F N 11 » Tue May 21, 2019 6:59 pm

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F N 11 wrote:They go off of stats so I get it. But off impact he should of been 1st team. Better be in rising stars game.


which frontcourt player does mitch knock out of the first team in your opinion?

Again they both are more polished offensively but if you are looking by the offensive stats and look at on floor impact Mitch trumps a lot of people in the NBA much less Bagley and Ayton.
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Post#438 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue May 21, 2019 7:13 pm

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F N 11 wrote:They go off of stats so I get it. But off impact he should of been 1st team. Better be in rising stars game.


which frontcourt player does mitch knock out of the first team in your opinion?

Again they both are more polished offensively but if you are looking by the offensive stats and look at on floor impact Mitch trumps a lot of people in the NBA much less Bagley and Ayton.


it was a simple question. so, ayton and bagley. got it.
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Post#439 » by dakomish23 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:46 pm

Mitch, Huerter Shamet the only non lottery picks to make it.

Of the remaining lottery picks, who’s likely to end up being the best?

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