2019 NBA Draft Prep

[King Ken]

So Trae, Kevin and Collins can't shoot?

I was referring to taking the ball out of Cam's hands and treating him as a 3rd or 4th option.

Cam's uneven play can, in part, be blamed on poor shooting.



But his lack of effort and disinterest surely came from being demoted to role player on Zion's team...with RJ as the first offensive option.

So you don't think the NBA spacing, having shooters around him, Trae creating and him having on ball actions will not help his game?

Do we have a #1 option, outside of Trae, we just ride the hot hand

[Jamaaliver]

So you don't think the NBA spacing, having shooters around him, Trae creating and him having on ball actions will not help his game?

Do we have a #1 option, outside of Trae, we just ride the hot hand

You lost me.



I simply don't think it's a good idea to put Cam on the same team with Zion again.

Or make him the third wheel behind a ball dominant playmaker.

I foresee Cam struggling the same way he did in college.

[Spud2nique]

We get Zion tonight I’m ugly crying.


I don’t care I’ll do it in the streets for people to see. No pressure but this is one of the biggest moments in our franchise history.

I can’t think of any other prospect but Zion. At least today. He’s gonna be a superstar.

[King Ken]

So you don't think the NBA spacing, having shooters around him, Trae creating and him having on ball actions will not help his game?

Do we have a #1 option, outside of Trae, we just ride the hot hand

You lost me.



I simply don't think it's a good idea to put Cam on the same team with Zion again.

Or make him the third wheel behind a ball dominant playmaker.

I foresee Cam struggling the same way he did in college.

I don't see him struggling with us and i don't see him being a bad fit with Zion around our personnel in the NBA. I see him still being an excellent fit. I think you lost yourself on this one

[Jamaaliver]

I don't see him struggling with us and i don't see him being a bad fit with Zion around personnel in the NBA. I see him still being an excellent fit. I think you lost yourself on this one

Cam Reddish has talent. But he is not a can't miss prospect.

It's not an unreasonable concern.

[WalterBenjamin]

Hope you get Zion if you turn another direction and trade Collins.

[King Ken]

I don't see him struggling with us and i don't see him being a bad fit with Zion around personnel in the NBA. I see him still being an excellent fit. I think you lost yourself on this one

Cam Reddish has talent. But he is not a can't miss prospect.

It's not an unreasonable concern.

For us, i see him as a special prospect. Can't miss is Zion. Clearly we have to land at #1 for that to take place.

[King Ken]

Hope you get Zion if you turn another direction and trade Collins.

Zion is a perfect fit for Collins. He is strong at some of the areas Collins is weak.

[shakes0]

Someone promised Hunter, I hope it wasn't us but if it is, oh well... Still one of my favorite prospects and I ain't mad at that. My guess is Washington did it. They are the kings of promises based on previous drafts and they need a SF. I know we could promise Chuma but I know SA did too and they have two 1st rounders so we probably not getting him. Travis isn't known for promises.

I don't think anyone has promised Hunter before the drawing. No need to, the kid is going top six. I agree with the tweet; he will workout for the top teams.

If I’m Hunter I don’t work out either. National champs and he was the best player that night. He did his work. The other two, I dunno.

Agreed, if anyone asks Hunter to work out he should respond by sending them a link to "One Shining Moment".

[WalterBenjamin]

Hope you get Zion if you turn another direction and trade Collins.

Zion is a perfect fit for Collins. He is strong at some of the areas Collins is weak.

This is exactly the problem. Zion is the fit for Collins Collins is a spare part in this team. Hope your GM is aware of that. If you don't get Zion you can dable with Collins. Zion is a 4 in the NBA as is Collins. They are not complimentary pieces. In the scale of great NBA skills you have 2 great shooters and passers for position in Young and Huerter. That is what you should build on.

[Jamaaliver]

This is exactly the problem. Zion is the fit for Collins Collins is a spare part in this team. Hope your GM is aware of that. If you don't get Zion you can dable with Collins. Zion is a 4 in the NBA as is Collins. They are not complimentary pieces. In the scale of great NBA skills you have 2 great shooters and passers for position in Young and Huerter. That is what you should build on.

This is the hard truth that Hawks fans are not yet ready to consider. There's a strong possibility Zion and Collins won't pair perfectly.

It's like 76ers fans regarding Simmons and Embiid. In a playoff series, defenders could just clog the lane and turn them both into jump shooters...a waste of their talents.



Do you, as a Warriors fan, think Schlenk would take more than a season or two to recognize the flaw in that approach? Think Hawks could get commensurate talent in a Collins trade? Should the team wait until he signs an extension and matching salary becomes easier for trading partners?

[King Ken]

If they are a great defensive fit. That's all that matters. Both players can play two positions and we can use them with Omari, Len and VC

[King Ken]

Simmons is a PG who can't shoot, thats a problem anywhere. This will be more like a souped up version of Smoove and Horford.

[kg01]

Simmons is a PG who can't shoot, thats a problem anywhere. This will be more like a souped up version of Smoove and Horford.

What I've learned about our guy @jamalli is that he loves to pick an opinion he thinks will be unpopular and just hammers on it.

Geez, jamalli

[WalterBenjamin]

If they are a great defensive fit. That's all that matters. Both players can play two positions and we can use them with Omari, Len and VC

Collins is just not a great defender and decision maker. The new contract on max terms would make him a neegative to neutral asset.

[Jamaaliver]

Simmons is a PG who can't shoot, thats a problem anywhere. This will be more like a souped up version of Smoove and Horford.

What I've learned about our guy @jamalli is that he loves to pick an opinion he thinks will be unpopular and just hammers on it.

Geez, jamalli

It's not that. And the GS Warriors fan brought it up. And it's a fair question.


Moving Collins would be damn near impossible for our fan base to accept. He's a great fit with Trae and a great representative for the city. But if we believe Zion is the better player...what happens if he and Collins don't mesh?



Trae, Huerter and Collins seem like perfect fitting pieces. But we're not drafting for fit...we're drafting for talent. So what happens after that?

We're about to have 8 guys on our roster drafted by us in the first round since 2016...all those guys can't stay here long term. That isn't realistic.

[WalterBenjamin]

This is exactly the problem. Zion is the fit for Collins Collins is a spare part in this team. Hope your GM is aware of that. If you don't get Zion you can dable with Collins. Zion is a 4 in the NBA as is Collins. They are not complimentary pieces. In the scale of great NBA skills you have 2 great shooters and passers for position in Young and Huerter. That is what you should build on.

Do you, as a Warriors fan, think Schlenk would take more than a season or two to recognize the flaw in that approach? Think Hawks could get commensurate talent in a Collins trade? Should the team wait until he signs an extension and matching salary becomes easier for trading partners?

I think Collins has more value now thanhe will ever have in the future. His extension is not worth it if you give up cap flexibility and if he doesnt develope. To much risk if you get Zion. Probably eaven if you dont get him. Its probably better to trade him so you can get Brandon Clarke just to take time with this team than to extend him. I am just pesimistic that he will develope in the right way that he wont hinder this teams potential.

Trae has such high offensive potential that you can live with other pieces that dont fit perfectly. But to maximize him and take this team to perenisl contenders for years to come you cant sign bad contracts all be it for productive players as Collins. If Collins could play the 5 in any semblance you go with him but he just cant.

I always use Denver as an example. They played Torey Craig heavily in this playoffs. Didn't have to if you drafted OG Anunoby and where decisive with your moves when you needed to make them. Although young, Denver has lowerd their defensive and offensive ceilling for years to come .

[King Ken]

If they are a great defensive fit. That's all that matters. Both players can play two positions and we can use them with Omari, Len and VC

Collins is just not a great defender and decision maker. The new contract on max terms would make him a neegative to neutral asset.

He is 21 years old.

[WalterBenjamin]

If they are a great defensive fit. That's all that matters. Both players can play two positions and we can use them with Omari, Len and VC

Collins is just not a great defender and decision maker. The new contract on max terms would make him a neegative to neutral asset.

He is 21 years old.

Anybody who folows the draft would say to you that those skills are the hardest to develope. Especialy big men. KAT was a great defensive player in the College level and he is a sieve because the NBA is just to fast for him to proces. Collins isnt switchable, his positional defense aint good and his decision making is poore. If he can fix 2 of those problems great. I doubt he will. He probably thinks he is a good defender because he can block shoots.

[Jamaaliver]

I think Collins has more value now thanhe will ever have in the future. His extension is not worth it if you give up cap flexibility and if he doesnt develope. To much risk if you get Zion. Probably eaven if you dont get him. Its probably better to trade him so you can get Brandon Clarke just to take time with this team than to extend him. I am just pesimistic that he will develope in the right way that he wont hinder this teams potential.

Trae has such high offensive potential that you can live with other pieces that don't fit perfectly. But to maximize him and take this team to perenisl contenders for years to come you cant sign bad contracts all be it for productive players as Collins. If Collins could play the 5 in any semblance you go with him but he just cant.

Well, you lost me here...

But, I appreciate the outside perspective.