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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#921 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 17, 2019 4:22 pm

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8on wrote:I'll start sign-ups tomorrow, unless anyone starts something first.

I'd tighten the time period. 60s players are a headache to judge.


Fair enough. 80s to now if we get 13 or more, 90s to now if we get 12 or less.


You want to fire up a 15 or 16 FGA limit game? It was your baby. 2000 and forward was suggested to eliminate Magic.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#922 » by 8on » Fri May 17, 2019 5:04 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
8on wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:I'd tighten the time period. 60s players are a headache to judge.


Fair enough. 80s to now if we get 13 or more, 90s to now if we get 12 or less.


You want to fire up a 15 or 16 FGA limit game? It was your baby. 2000 and forward was suggested to eliminate Magic.


Was it? I don’t even remember.

The less overlap between games, the better. I’d start it after the playoffs of this game start (assuming we can do full playoffs right off the bat), unless someone beats me to it.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#923 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 17, 2019 5:35 pm

8on wrote:
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8on wrote:
Fair enough. 80s to now if we get 13 or more, 90s to now if we get 12 or less.


You want to fire up a 15 or 16 FGA limit game? It was your baby. 2000 and forward was suggested to eliminate Magic.


Was it? I don’t even remember.

The less overlap between games, the better. I’d start it after the playoffs of this game start (assuming we can do full playoffs right off the bat), unless someone beats me to it.


It doesn't matter to me, I'm fine with doing it. Thought it was yours and you might want to.
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#924 » by 8on » Fri May 17, 2019 5:49 pm

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8on wrote:
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You want to fire up a 15 or 16 FGA limit game? It was your baby. 2000 and forward was suggested to eliminate Magic.


Was it? I don’t even remember.

The less overlap between games, the better. I’d start it after the playoffs of this game start (assuming we can do full playoffs right off the bat), unless someone beats me to it.


It doesn't matter to me, I'm fine with doing it. Thought it was yours and you might want to.


Go for it.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#925 » by Laimbeer » Sat May 18, 2019 3:09 am

8on wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
8on wrote:
Was it? I don’t even remember.

The less overlap between games, the better. I’d start it after the playoffs of this game start (assuming we can do full playoffs right off the bat), unless someone beats me to it.


It doesn't matter to me, I'm fine with doing it. Thought it was yours and you might want to.


Go for it.


It's full. Shall I hold off on starting the draft until the current draft is over?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#926 » by wackbone » Sat May 18, 2019 2:20 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
8on wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
It doesn't matter to me, I'm fine with doing it. Thought it was yours and you might want to.


Go for it.


It's full. Shall I hold off on starting the draft until the current draft is over?

Could you set the draft order so we can do a little prepping?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#927 » by Laimbeer » Tue May 21, 2019 12:54 am

Could we base something off the Teams to Never Win a Ring Tournament on the PC board? I'm thinking four rounds, three picks are wild cards and the other is picking one of these teams, from which you select five players, something like that.

1. '86 Mil
2. '09 Cle
3. '91 Portland
4. '18 Houston
5. '97 Utah
6. '03 Dallas
7. '81 Philly (no Moses)
8. '02 Sacramento
9. '96 Seattle
10. '07 Phoenix
11. '14 Clippers
12. '87 Atlanta
13. '81 Milwaukee
14. '17 Spurs
15. '16 Thunder
16. '10 Orlando
17. '90 Phoenix
18. '08 Utah
19. '75 Denver
20. '94 NY
21. '95 Orlando
22. '12 OKC
23. '00 Portland
24. '93 Phoenix
25. '98 Indiana
26. '96 SAS
27. '72 Bulls
28. '06 Dallas
29. '92 Utah
30. '92 Cleveland
31. '68 Lakers
32. '79 SAS
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3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#928 » by Laimbeer » Tue May 21, 2019 1:26 pm

Flat Line Draft - all player seasons must be between 10-12 FGAs.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Post#929 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 pm

I'd be interested in revisiting the 3 degrees franchise concept but with a shorter time frame like 90s or 2000s to now.
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Post#930 » by Blazers-1977 » Tue May 21, 2019 9:50 pm

Laimbeer wrote:.



Thinking of starting one of these games :


- Random Season by Round(Where in each round you can select from a pool of players from that season only or if thats too narrow the season before that season and after that season as well)

- Choose your own Decade Draft(Where you can only draft players from one decade you choose)

- Full Random Draft(Where each pick has a year randomly selected and you can only choose a player from that year)
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#931 » by Laimbeer » Tue May 21, 2019 10:37 pm

Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:.



Thinking of starting one of these games :


- Random Season by Round(Where in each round you can select from a pool of players from that season only or if thats too narrow the season before that season and after that season as well)

- Choose your own Decade Draft(Where you can only draft players from one decade you choose)

- Full Random Draft(Where each pick has a year randomly selected and you can only choose a player from that year)


The first is workable, but you'd have to maybe have eight seasons five years apart designated to be pulled randomly as opposed to being totally random. And give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round.

By decade is interesting.

Full random sounds like an awful lot of luck.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#932 » by Blazers-1977 » Tue May 21, 2019 10:43 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:.



Thinking of starting one of these games :


- Random Season by Round(Where in each round you can select from a pool of players from that season only or if thats too narrow the season before that season and after that season as well)

- Choose your own Decade Draft(Where you can only draft players from one decade you choose)

- Full Random Draft(Where each pick has a year randomly selected and you can only choose a player from that year)


The first is workable, but you'd have to maybe have eight seasons five years apart designated to be pulled randomly as opposed to being totally random. And give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round.

By decade is interesting.

Full random sounds like an awful lot of luck.


Do you mean somethink like this : Round 1 : 1976 , Round 2: 1981 , Round 3: 1986 etc

Also give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round : how can we set up an order where that is possible
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Post#933 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue May 21, 2019 10:47 pm

Beat The Champs Draft - you pick players from teams that lost to the NBA champions in the playoffs. So if the time period is 90s to now for example, the only version of MJ you can pick is '90 (when he lost to the Pistons). Would probably need to be tighter than that to make the research less onerous.
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Post#934 » by Blazers-1977 » Tue May 21, 2019 10:55 pm

I might just do choose your own decade if the random ones require too much luck and are too unfair to people who have middle picks
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Post#935 » by Laimbeer » Tue May 21, 2019 11:00 pm

Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Blazers-1977 wrote:

Thinking of starting one of these games :


- Random Season by Round(Where in each round you can select from a pool of players from that season only or if thats too narrow the season before that season and after that season as well)

- Choose your own Decade Draft(Where you can only draft players from one decade you choose)

- Full Random Draft(Where each pick has a year randomly selected and you can only choose a player from that year)


The first is workable, but you'd have to maybe have eight seasons five years apart designated to be pulled randomly as opposed to being totally random. And give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round.

By decade is interesting.

Full random sounds like an awful lot of luck.


Do you mean somethink like this : Round 1 : 1976 , Round 2: 1981 , Round 3: 1986 etc

Also give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round : how can we set up an order where that is possible


No I mean you take the eight seasons (five years apart) selected beforehand and pull a random one before each round. No one knows what order they're coming.

Half the group might get 1,4,6,8,10,12,14,16 picks over eight rounds while the other half would get 2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#936 » by Laimbeer » Tue May 21, 2019 11:02 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Beat The Champs Draft - you pick players from teams that lost to the NBA champions in the playoffs. So if the time period is 90s to now for example, the only version of MJ you can pick is '90 (when he lost to the Pistons). Would probably need to be tighter than that to make the research less onerous.


That is interesting but yeah would take some digging.
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2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#937 » by Blazers-1977 » Tue May 21, 2019 11:36 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
The first is workable, but you'd have to maybe have eight seasons five years apart designated to be pulled randomly as opposed to being totally random. And give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round.

By decade is interesting.

Full random sounds like an awful lot of luck.


Do you mean somethink like this : Round 1 : 1976 , Round 2: 1981 , Round 3: 1986 etc

Also give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round : how can we set up an order where that is possible


No I mean you take the eight seasons (five years apart) selected beforehand and pull a random one before each round. No one knows what order they're coming.

Half the group might get 1,4,6,8,10,12,14,16 picks over eight rounds while the other half would get 2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15


The problem with that is the timings each round ends, if its gonna be random it could delay the drafts up. So how would we deal with that. I think your draft order idea is interesting but choosing randomly before each round could delay things
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Post#938 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 22, 2019 12:09 am

Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Blazers-1977 wrote:
Do you mean somethink like this : Round 1 : 1976 , Round 2: 1981 , Round 3: 1986 etc

Also give everyone a shot at a high pick in a round : how can we set up an order where that is possible


No I mean you take the eight seasons (five years apart) selected beforehand and pull a random one before each round. No one knows what order they're coming.

Half the group might get 1,4,6,8,10,12,14,16 picks over eight rounds while the other half would get 2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15


The problem with that is the timings each round ends, if its gonna be random it could delay the drafts up. So how would we deal with that. I think your draft order idea is interesting but choosing randomly before each round could delay things


Had the same thing with the random teams draft, wasn't a big problem so long as you can keep fairly close tabs.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#939 » by Blazers-1977 » Wed May 22, 2019 12:36 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
No I mean you take the eight seasons (five years apart) selected beforehand and pull a random one before each round. No one knows what order they're coming.

Half the group might get 1,4,6,8,10,12,14,16 picks over eight rounds while the other half would get 2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15


The problem with that is the timings each round ends, if its gonna be random it could delay the drafts up. So how would we deal with that. I think your draft order idea is interesting but choosing randomly before each round could delay things


Had the same thing with the random teams draft, wasn't a big problem so long as you can keep fairly close tabs.


How much fairly close tabs , like I can check like 3-4 times a day but might be harder more than that . Would you say that would be enough


Sorry if I am asking too many questions
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Post#940 » by Laimbeer » Wed May 22, 2019 3:04 pm

Blazers-1977 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Blazers-1977 wrote:
The problem with that is the timings each round ends, if its gonna be random it could delay the drafts up. So how would we deal with that. I think your draft order idea is interesting but choosing randomly before each round could delay things


Had the same thing with the random teams draft, wasn't a big problem so long as you can keep fairly close tabs.


How much fairly close tabs , like I can check like 3-4 times a day but might be harder more than that . Would you say that would be enough


Sorry if I am asking too many questions


Hopefully no longer than 2 or 3 hours?

Oh, I think a one MVP limit is a must. Keeps someone from stumbling into an unbeatable team and adds to the strategy.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy

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