Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Richard4444]

Says who, why not?

They are totally Diff players

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense.

He’s currently 10th highest on payroll and we control his options

I don’t see what the issue with a rookie contract is

Knicks needs U$200K* in cap space to Keep Dotson and Trier assuming Durant/Irv dont take discounts. Besides, we have no cap space to sign the Second Round Pick or keep the hold of Garret, Henry, Kornet and Jenkins.

PS: I recalculated.

[G_K_F]

I keep hearing about RJ's basketball IQ.

If this is the case, then why is he so inefficient?

IT's very weird.

[Thugger HBC]

Teams aren't attacking Curry on every possession during the regular season.
Iggy gets all his points on fast breaks.

The success Iggy is having is scheme related, always been been. Same reason why Curry looks remotely sufficient on defense.

Either way, i know you arent claiming GS success on Iggy. he's nowhere near the factor you're making him out to be, and even still Frank cant duplicate that anyway.

He's a factor when he's defending the opposing team's back court.
Frank can't duplicate defending the opposing team's point guard and shooting guard?

No Frank cannot Iggy's efforts.

[HEZI]

Because he doesn't play much in the regular season, that's the point. Iggy is literally saved for the postseason, and even with that Iggy isn't in the top 5 why GS is what they are. hasn't been for a while, but when he is contributing he does more than defend.

Teams aren't attacking Curry on every possession during the regular season.
Iggy gets all his points on fast breaks.

The success Iggy is having is scheme related, always been been. Same reason why Curry looks remotely sufficient on defense.

Either way, i know you arent claiming GS success on Iggy. he's nowhere near the factor you're making him out to be, and even still Frank cant duplicate that anyway.

Not to mention that Iggy is a former All Star who has shown ability as a scorer in the league and has that pedigree. Him having a smaller role now in GS doesn't take away his pedigree and that's not the same as somebody who simply hasn't proven themselves as a scorer on the NBA level. Iggy's strengths as an athlete are still very much utilized by GS. They consistently look for him as an option with over the top lobs, slashing to the basket and also as a break igniter. Iggy's skills as a scorer are still there, even at his age he still can get up and down the floor and has the bunnies to jump with the best of them.

[Thugger HBC]

I keep hearing about RJ's basketball IQ.

If this is the case, then why is he so inefficient?

IT's very weird.

He's 18.

[Context]

Trust the process yes!!!!

We are going to find out this off season...

[newyorker4ever]

Trust the process yes!!!!

You seem to be good on the internet with going back and finding things so maybe you can help me out with something i asked on here yesterday and something i think we'd all be very interested to know?

So supposedly the Pels aren't interested in K.Knox so i want to know if that's just them playing with us to get us to up our offer and if they do really like K.Knox, or at least if D.Griffin does. So if i'm correct then D.Griffin was working for like ESPN or NBA TV last year and covering the draft and i'd like to find out what he had to say about K.Knox before the draft and after we drafted him to see if he did like him and think he had good/great upside but i'm not good on the computer and wouldn't know how to even go back and find those videos of what they were all saying about Knox. I think D.Griffin was actually on a panel covering the draft while it was going on and pretty sure it was for NBA TV but not 100 on that.

To be honest I just bump into stuff and post it here. Most I can find is Griff giving Fizdale and Knicks coaching staff props for development after beating the bucks.

Watch on YouTube

So the Pels aren't interested in K.Knox hah? Unless someone other then D.Griffin is making the calls then it sure sounds to me like he likes K.Knox.

Thanks F N 11

[Thugger HBC]

I do want to add, the context of Mills speaking on the podium in that video was in reference to Jimmy Butler specifically, whom is an upcoming free agent.

Unless, you don't believe the Knicks have had any discussions with the Pels, they will certainly up some youth and picks in such a deal.

[Jay10]

I do want to add, the context of Mills speaking on the podium in that video was in reference to Jimmy Butler specifically, whom is an upcoming free agent.

Unless, you don't believe the Knicks have had any discussions with the Pels, they will certainly up some youth and picks in such a deal.

some youth? Mills might pull something similar to what the Knicks gave up for Carmelo.

The Knicks might end up with a soon to be 31 year old, a 26 year old, and a bunch of veterans, who might be one injury away from having to retire.

If Perry is following what the Pistons did with Dumars, there will be a lot of players that are long in the tooth come opening night.

[GONYK]

I do want to add, the context of Mills speaking on the podium in that video was in reference to Jimmy Butler specifically, whom is an upcoming free agent.

Unless, you don't believe the Knicks have had any discussions with the Pels, they will certainly up some youth and picks in such a deal.

some youth? Mills might pull something similar to what the Knicks gave up for Carmelo.

The Knicks might end up with a soon to be 31 year old, a 26 year old, and a bunch of veterans, who might be one injury away from having to retire.

That would give the Knicks 2 of the top 5 players in the league, with an additional max slot to build the team with another top 15 player or add some depth.

It's nowhere near the Melo trade.

[Richard4444]

Because of his contract.

The fans are willing to give up a player that could defend 3 positions for offense.

He’s currently 10th highest on payroll and we control his options

I don’t see what the issue with a rookie contract is

Knicks needs U$128,97K* in cap space to Keep Dotson and Trier assuming Durant/Irv dont take discounts. Besides, we have no cap space to sign the Second Round Pick or keep the hold of Garret, Henry, Kornet and Jenkins.

PS: I recalculated.

[Thugger HBC]

I do want to add, the context of Mills speaking on the podium in that video was in reference to Jimmy Butler specifically, whom is an upcoming free agent.

Unless, you don't believe the Knicks have had any discussions with the Pels, they will certainly up some youth and picks in such a deal.

some youth? Mills might pull something similar to what the Knicks gave up for Carmelo.

The Knicks might end up with a soon to be 31 year old, a 26 year old, and a bunch of veterans, who might be one injury away from having to retire.

If Perry is following what the Pistons did with Dumars, there will be a lot of players that are long in the tooth come opening night.

Difference is, they wouldn't be getting Carmelo. They'd be doing so to gain a player viewed as top 5 in the league at worst.

[Jay10]

I do want to add, the context of Mills speaking on the podium in that video was in reference to Jimmy Butler specifically, whom is an upcoming free agent.

Unless, you don't believe the Knicks have had any discussions with the Pels, they will certainly up some youth and picks in such a deal.

some youth? Mills might pull something similar to what the Knicks gave up for Carmelo.

The Knicks might end up with a soon to be 31 year old, a 26 year old, and a bunch of veterans, who might be one injury away from having to retire.

That would give the Knicks 2 of the top 5 players in the league, with an additional max slot to build the team with another top 15 player or add some depth.

It's nowhere near the Melo trade.

That extra slot is going to Kyrie.
Davis isn't Top 5 in the league

[HarthorneWingo]

The success Iggy is having is scheme related, always been been. Same reason why Curry looks remotely sufficient on defense.

Either way, i know you arent claiming GS success on Iggy. he's nowhere near the factor you're making him out to be, and even still Frank cant duplicate that anyway.

He's a factor when he's defending the opposing team's back court.
Frank can't duplicate defending the opposing team's point guard and shooting guard?

No Frank cannot Iggy's efforts.

I remember Andre very well. I was living in Philadelphia when they drafted him no. 9. And then I remember how they ran him out of town because? ... he couldn't shoot.

[Thugger HBC]

Giannis LeBron Durant Davis Kawhi.

If you say Curry, then you just trashed your own defense for Iggy. No top 5 talent should have his deficiencies masked by a 35 year old.

[bleedblue3303]

Sexton is trash though.

DSJ is the best player in the trade and the #26 pick does not cover the distance between Barret and Hunter.

Hahahaha that's pretty funny....wait a minute....are you serious?

I love D.Hunter and think he'll be really good and feel the same about D.Garland.

Yes, on both counts.

I don't even like DSJ, but Colin was barely an NBA player for most of last season. What has Sexton done to prove otherwise?

Here’s what I would do. I would consider trading 3 for 5 and 22. I would let the world know we are drafting Garland at 5 to scare Phoenix. And trade 5 for 6 with Phoenix with who would give us a heavily protected 2020 less protected 2021 and unprotected 2022. Draft pick.
That leaves us with both Dallas picks, a Phoenix pick number 6 and 22 in this years draft. I would offer 6 and 22 plus both Dallas picks and DSJ for AD.

Now we have Phoenix pick still as well as both of all our own. To draft young talent on a team of
Mitch
AD
KD
Dotson
Kyrie

That’s a dynasty right there for many years to come.


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[Fury]

Giannis LeBron Durant Davis Kawhi.

If you say Curry, then you just trashed your own defense for Iggy. No top 5 talent should have his deficiencies masked by a 35 year old.

Curry is more impactful than Durant and Davis

[HEZI]

I do want to add, the context of Mills speaking on the podium in that video was in reference to Jimmy Butler specifically, whom is an upcoming free agent.

Unless, you don't believe the Knicks have had any discussions with the Pels, they will certainly up some youth and picks in such a deal.

some youth? Mills might pull something similar to what the Knicks gave up for Carmelo.

The Knicks might end up with a soon to be 31 year old, a 26 year old, and a bunch of veterans, who might be one injury away from having to retire.

That would give the Knicks 2 of the top 5 players in the league, with an additional max slot to build the team with another top 15 player or add some depth.

It's nowhere near the Melo trade.

So much easier to build depth than to find players of that caliber. Teams that do have depth have built it with 2nd rounders and smaller deals. I mean even us currently, one of our best assets is a kid we took in the 2nd round.

Our problem with the Melo deal wasn't really the Melo deal, it was that Melo was the best player we had. Having depth around him wasn't going to knock off the Miami Heat. Sorry but Gallinari and Wilson Chandler with Melo or Amare was still not good enough. We lacked star power, not depth. If anything, we actually had solid depth and role players. JR Smith we brought in from China and he turned into 6th man of the year. We had Kidd, Felton, Pablo, KMart, Purple Drank, shyt we had the depth but we were missing star power.

[Thugger HBC]

Giannis LeBron Durant Davis Kawhi.

If you say Curry, then you just trashed your own defense for Iggy. No top 5 talent should have his deficiencies masked by a 35 year old.

Curry is more impactful than Durant and Davis

That's what MVP awards are for. Even Jordan didn't win MVP every season.

[Zenzibar]

So who do we like with our 55 pick?

Aubrey Dawkins. Especially if DSJ and Frank are included in any trades.