Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[mab2039]

No. What started it was inability to deal with the fact that

1. He was a bit bitter about their success without him
2. That he was frustrated with the entitled play of the young guys, and Brad for not being able to get them in line.


THEN he used his "role" as the "leader" to try to intervene (LeBron Style) and justify his frustrations.

Kyrie wasn't the initial problem. He just couldn't handle it and exasperated the issues.

This all is a result of Kyrie's lack of self awareness and emotional intelligence, which of course results in this reaction formed pseudospirtual intellectual persona he currently wears. I've said this before, but he acts a lot like someone who's been predisposed for substance induced psychosis (weed CAN do that; as a social worker, I've seen similar patterns)

Not saying he will be.. I don't think he will. But my point is that the dude is all over the place, he's super flighty, and really needs to get his stuff together and his mind right. Because I don't think he's 100% "right" maybe 88%



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So Kyrie is missing a few screws and makes bad situations worse because of it. And this is the guy that you suggest trading everyone away and firing the head coach to appease?

Can you not see how someone unstable like that isn't necessarily the best person to try and build your franchise around? Kyrie is the type who's off court issues have on court implications as we saw this year. This is why lesser players like IT and Rozier can take the team just as far in the playoffs in his place.

I hear you and you have a point. He's replaceable.

But I want to build around Davis, Davis and Kyrie. if Davis is returnable without Kyrie then by all means. I only wanted Kyrie to stay here, and I wanted him to be appeased because I felt he was an absolute necessity to build a championship team around Davis if we trade for him. So in that regard yes.

However, if we can still trade for Davis and build the contender around him, then by all means Kyrie can go climb a mountain in Kathmandu

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That is a misconception. There is no mountain in Kathmandu.

[greenroom31]

This is an old article, but the author just re-posted it...

https://heavy.com/sports/2019/03/anthony-davis-boston-celtics-jayson-tatum/

The Boston Celtics still do have a chance to acquire Anthony Davis.

Speaking to a league source yesterday afternoon, the Celtics would have to guarantee two key players in any deal for Davis.

“Celtics have to include Jayson Tatum and Marcus Smart,” a source who is in direct contact with the New Orleans Pelicans front office told me via text message.

and later on the Lakers...

Per a Pelicans source who spoke on the condition of anonymity via text message:

“Internally, Pels are still interested in Lakers offer. But would love for Lonzo [Ball] to be a part of it. They feel he could thrive alongside [Jrue] Holiday. Fine with Kuzma/Ingram and think they could win with that roster next year.”

da **** kind of source is that. We have to include tatum and smart, but the lakers offer is good because they love freaking LonzoBall? who wrote that? Rich Paul?

Why the author is 'Scoop B' Robinson of course:

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[Jaqua92]

This is how the celtics lost out on acquiring Kawhi, the same thing is about to happen with Anthony Davis. 1 championship in 11 years is not good. It is not acceptable.

Agreed. But it's not over yet. Danny will pony up at some point and offer Tatum, or they will take our offer

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[zoyathedestroya]

That was a great interview by Mark Murphy. Sincere, non-sugarcoated words from Wyc. And a bit inspiring. I like the part that he's determined to go for it and not be mediocre. And the part that there are several backup scenarios in case Davis trade falls through.

[Jaqua92]

So Kyrie is missing a few screws and makes bad situations worse because of it. And this is the guy that you suggest trading everyone away and firing the head coach to appease?

Can you not see how someone unstable like that isn't necessarily the best person to try and build your franchise around? Kyrie is the type who's off court issues have on court implications as we saw this year. This is why lesser players like IT and Rozier can take the team just as far in the playoffs in his place.

I hear you and you have a point. He's replaceable.

But I want to build around Davis, Davis and Kyrie. if Davis is returnable without Kyrie then by all means. I only wanted Kyrie to stay here, and I wanted him to be appeased because I felt he was an absolute necessity to build a championship team around Davis if we trade for him. So in that regard yes.

However, if we can still trade for Davis and build the contender around him, then by all means Kyrie can go climb a mountain in Kathmandu

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That is a misconception. There is no mountain in Kathmandu.

Truth be told I was thinking of the movie Doctor strange, so that was an uninformed post on my part

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[MagicBagley18]

Been gone for a few hours what I miss? Nothing huh? Haha

[Jakeopp]

This is how the celtics lost out on acquiring Kawhi, the same thing is about to happen with Anthony Davis. 1 championship in 11 years is not good. It is not acceptable.

Agreed. But it's not over yet. Danny will pony up at some point and offer Tatum, or they will take our offer

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I'll be shocked if Danny offers Tatum, unless Kyrie pulls a 180 and decides to return. Pelicans won't take the offer without him if the reported Lakers offer is true.

[JR Hawks]

Will bet money we have a better record next year without Kyrie than we did with him.

Of course. Brad's specialty is overachieving teams that have no chance of winning a championship. Perfect roster for him.

[zoyathedestroya]

Been gone for a few hours what I miss? Nothing huh? Haha

Read the Herald article by Murphy. There are bits there that give us a hint what FO is doing right now.
Basically, we're still going after AD. Not giving up on bringing back Kyrie. And there are exotic scenarios being discussed if either or both of those fall through. Bottom line, Grousbeck wants to compete for a title for years to come. Has no idea though how this summer will turn out.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Will bet money we have a better record next year without Kyrie than we did with him.

Of course. Brad's specialty is overachieving teams that have no chance of winning a championship. Perfect roster for him.

We had no chance of winning a championship with Kyrie as our best player.

[Jaqua92]

Been gone for a few hours what I miss? Nothing huh? Haha

Read the Herald article by Murphy. There are bits there that give us a hint what FO is doing right now.
Basically, we're still going after AD. Not giving up on bringing back Kyrie. And there are exotic scenarios being discussed if either or both of those fall through. Bottom line, Grousbeck wants to compete for a title for years to come.

Just like every GM in the NBA.

AD is still the prize.

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[Jaqua92]

Will bet money we have a better record next year without Kyrie than we did with him.

Of course. Brad's specialty is overachieving teams that have no chance of winning a championship. Perfect roster for him.

We had no chance of winning a championship with Kyrie as our best player.

Of course not. But as our 2nd best player

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[SmartWentCrazy]

This is an old article, but the author just re-posted it...

https://heavy.com/sports/2019/03/anthony-davis-boston-celtics-jayson-tatum/



and later on the Lakers...

da **** kind of source is that. We have to include tatum and smart, but the lakers offer is good because they love freaking LonzoBall? who wrote that? Rich Paul?

Why the author is 'Scoop B' Robinson of course:

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Yep — hes a lakers fan whos been proven to make **** up

[SmartWentCrazy]

Of course. Brad's specialty is overachieving teams that have no chance of winning a championship. Perfect roster for him.

We had no chance of winning a championship with Kyrie as our best player.

Of course not. But as our 2nd best player

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Unless we had a LeBron or KD, we wouldnt.

Plus, he wants to be the guy— its why hes going to the Nets instead of originally with KD to the knicks.

[AlCelticFan]

Does Al stick around or go ring chasing once this becomes official?

Reload stated Al didnt like Kyrie so he most likely sticks around now and we trade for another vet guard.

Al doesn’t like Kyrie? If you can’t get along with al then Kyrie might have a people problem.


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Absolutely. Al is such a mature and good dude.

[fallguy]

Will bet money we have a better record next year without Kyrie than we did with him.

Yeah, I'll do that too. Regardless of who we sign this offseason.

[soxfan2003]

Second guessing Ainge is dumb....we were all excited when he got Kyrie...IT's hip was done.

Some people initially opposed the deal if I remember correctly since they didn't want the Nets pick given up..... Slaribarfast may have been one of them. I was okay with the deal since I was probably the #1 advocate of moving on from IT but the main reason I supported it was because only really since I tend to support Ainge in the relatively close calls. I literally wanted IT released in the unlikely event he couldn't be traded since I was that tired of small ball.

So, I was very happy for the small ball era to kind of end when the Celtics moved on from IT and Bradley. Without 20/20 hindsight of knowing where the Nets pick would land for the Cavs, if I had known back then that Ainge/Wyc wouldn't "go for it" in a year like this by at least balance out roster to get Horford some real help -- Baynes/Morris not nearly enough --, I would have been actually opposed to the Kyrie trade. Since quite frankly Kyrie at PG and Horford often at center and someone like Morris at PF has been too much of a continuation of small ball.

I thought the time to strike with Kyrie on the roster was actually these past two years....when he was only making around 20 million a year and a little younger than he will be going forward.... The Celtics during this time had some good players on rookie contracts....

From my vantage point for a team like the Celtics contracts matter a ton and obviously Kyrie at around 20 million the last two years relatively speaking is much better then him at nearly an average of perhaps 40 million a year.

I don't blame Ainge/Wyc for not going for it the first year since the Hayward injury set them back and it made sense to evaluate Tatum/Brown but this past year, I am disappointed that when Morris wanted out, Celtics didn't try to upgrade him. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a financial decision as much as a basketball one.

Based upon some interviews, Wyc seems willing to pay a decent amount of tax if he thinks the Celtics will be one of the top 1-2 teams. But this year may be a little evidence that he is reluctant to do so if it moves the Celtics from let's say 6th best team in the NBA if things go reasonable right to 3rd or 4th.

[AlCelticFan]

This is how the celtics lost out on acquiring Kawhi, the same thing is about to happen with Anthony Davis. 1 championship in 11 years is not good. It is not acceptable.

Last I checked it is REALLY hard to win championships in the NBA. 1 in 11 is much better than the median league-wide.

[The Corey's]

Danny better be filing tampering charges

[Jaqua92]

Danny better be filing tampering charges

Get AD first

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