2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

[Puff]

Honestly I think Tyler Johnson is better than any of options offered in the poll

You could be right but I do like the idea of Collison if we draft either Garland or White. However then what do we do with Johnson. The popular belief is that we can move him in a trade. I do not see that happening.

It is going to be interesting to see what happens in the next month. I expect a whole new look to this roster, or at least I hope so. There are a lot of free agents out there but we have limited cap space. We have players some want to get rid of(Jackson and Warren) but what other team really wants them and what are we going to get in return. To many moving parts for me to lay out a plan. I hope out front office at least has a plan. I imagine the black board is full of options.

[jeff2020]

I would absolutely love Beverley. He brings a toughness that this team needs and a drive to win. This team needs a culture change and needs to bring players in who are winners. With Durant and now Klay out next year the Western Conference is wide open. We need to make a push to get in the playoffs

[BobbieL]

Really? Whats he saying?

He keeps referring to Toronto as “they”.

Yeah there's a lot of "them" and "the raptors", then he quickly corrects it to "us" lol

And if I am the RAptors - I really don't care if he leaves or not. He got thema title.

(granted, easy for me to say as a bystander but really - they got a championship - if he wants to leave - look at at that trophy and smile )

[BobbieL]

GS is going to be awful next year. They haven't had money to spend on anyone else. They're going to roll out Steph-McKinnie-Iggy-Draymond-Jones. That's rough. Klay, Cousins, Cook, and Bell are all UFA. They will have a little money without Durant and Klay on the books but you have to think they give Klay his $30M a year anyway and then that's a rap for their cap space.

2 Top Tier Free Agents that they would have loved to and done anything to try to keep are now going to miss what is most likely the entire season next year......and no one knows if they will ever be the players they once were when they do return from injury. So as GS, do you roll the dice and pay them....or even one of them, pretty much giving away $30M+ a season (for each) while they sit out the entire season, or do you not offer them a deal and be stuck with a shell of a former team......while also being known as the team who dropped a very loved player once they injured themselves and pretty much ruined the rest of their career trying to save the team from the brink of elimination?

YIKES!!!

BIG YIKES!!!

They are pretty screwed either way with whatever they do. I mean they almost HAVE TO let Klay and Durant walk in FA so they arnt saddled with one or both of the contracts while not knowing what the player will even look like when they return in the fall of 2020.

At the start of this thread I put out the name of Draymond to the Suns as with the thought that Durant was leaving and there cap space - they might need to rebuild the team so to speak without cap space . Now, with Klay hurt, they really should go on PAUSE for next season. But there is a possibility for them and it involves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Durant agree to a deal - maybe the Warriors can convince the Knicks to do a sign and trade and bring back a guy like Lance Thomas but also be willing to give Denadre Jordan a deal - only a year guaranteed but for like 20m. So a double sign and trade (and really what makret is there for Jordan right now). So Durant goes out and they bring back DRAFT picks - maybe a future first, a guy like Deandre, Lance Thomas and wahtever to make the math work. Its not an ideal team but this is takinga long term play and how to use Durant - if he leaves. As really, the WArriors cannot expect much from teams for Durant - not an unprotected FRP in 2020 when teams with cap space can say F You - we can sign him outright. Maybe with the Nets they use a guy like Dudley and Ed Davis - a double sign and trade for Durant. But end of the day - if Durant walks and they bring back Klay - they would be lucky to get the players I write to help their roster.

Otherwise all they would have are exceptions - especially if they don't sign Klay. Which they will.

Secondly, maybe its time to trade Draymond. Get some assets. Bring back Livingston - Iguodalas will be in his last year.

Get your draft pick from the season and the Durant trade (if he walks) , load manage the hell out of Curry next year -- and roll with a pretty average team but at least you will have cap space in the summer of 2020 to do something. I mean, they have to be careful with guys like Cook and Bell because of the long term cap with Curry and if they bring back Klay. Thats 80m bucks right there

[Kerrsed]

GS is going to be awful next year. They haven't had money to spend on anyone else. They're going to roll out Steph-McKinnie-Iggy-Draymond-Jones. That's rough. Klay, Cousins, Cook, and Bell are all UFA. They will have a little money without Durant and Klay on the books but you have to think they give Klay his $30M a year anyway and then that's a rap for their cap space.

2 Top Tier Free Agents that they would have loved to and done anything to try to keep are now going to miss what is most likely the entire season next year......and no one knows if they will ever be the players they once were when they do return from injury. So as GS, do you roll the dice and pay them....or even one of them, pretty much giving away $30M+ a season (for each) while they sit out the entire season, or do you not offer them a deal and be stuck with a shell of a former team......while also being known as the team who dropped a very loved player once they injured themselves and pretty much ruined the rest of their career trying to save the team from the brink of elimination?

YIKES!!!

BIG YIKES!!!

They are pretty screwed either way with whatever they do. I mean they almost HAVE TO let Klay and Durant walk in FA so they arnt saddled with one or both of the contracts while not knowing what the player will even look like when they return in the fall of 2020.

At the start of this thread I put out the name of Draymond to the Suns as with the thought that Durant was leaving and there cap space - they might need to rebuild the team so to speak without cap space . Now, with Klay hurt, they really should go on PAUSE for next season. But there is a possibility for them and it involves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Durant agree to a deal - maybe the Warriors can convince the Knicks to do a sign and trade and bring back a guy like Lance Thomas but also be willing to give Denadre Jordan a deal - only a year guaranteed but for like 20m. So a double sign and trade (and really what makret is there for Jordan right now). So Durant goes out and they bring back Deandre, Lance Thomas and wahtever to make the math work. Its not an ideal team but this is takinga long term play and how to use Durant - if he leaves - to get cap space

Secondly, maybe its time to trade Draymond. Get some assets. Bring back Livingston - Iguodalas will be in his last year

Get your draft pick, load manage the hell out of Curry next year -- and roll with a pretty average team but at least you will have cap space in the summer of 2020 to do something

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

[WeekapaugGroove]

2 Top Tier Free Agents that they would have loved to and done anything to try to keep are now going to miss what is most likely the entire season next year......and no one knows if they will ever be the players they once were when they do return from injury. So as GS, do you roll the dice and pay them....or even one of them, pretty much giving away $30M+ a season (for each) while they sit out the entire season, or do you not offer them a deal and be stuck with a shell of a former team......while also being known as the team who dropped a very loved player once they injured themselves and pretty much ruined the rest of their career trying to save the team from the brink of elimination?

YIKES!!!

BIG YIKES!!!

They are pretty screwed either way with whatever they do. I mean they almost HAVE TO let Klay and Durant walk in FA so they arnt saddled with one or both of the contracts while not knowing what the player will even look like when they return in the fall of 2020.

At the start of this thread I put out the name of Draymond to the Suns as with the thought that Durant was leaving and there cap space - they might need to rebuild the team so to speak without cap space . Now, with Klay hurt, they really should go on PAUSE for next season. But there is a possibility for them and it involves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Durant agree to a deal - maybe the Warriors can convince the Knicks to do a sign and trade and bring back a guy like Lance Thomas but also be willing to give Denadre Jordan a deal - only a year guaranteed but for like 20m. So a double sign and trade (and really what makret is there for Jordan right now). So Durant goes out and they bring back Deandre, Lance Thomas and wahtever to make the math work. Its not an ideal team but this is takinga long term play and how to use Durant - if he leaves - to get cap space

Secondly, maybe its time to trade Draymond. Get some assets. Bring back Livingston - Iguodalas will be in his last year

Get your draft pick, load manage the hell out of Curry next year -- and roll with a pretty average team but at least you will have cap space in the summer of 2020 to do something

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

Not that anyone is going to feel too bad for them after this 5 year run but they are in a brutal spot next year with really no easy fix. Hard to see where their going to find enough scoring next season. They need to be careful not to run Curry into the ground chasing a lost season. I assume they keep Klay and while it sucks he tore his ACL those aren't that concerning from a long term perspective anymore so they need to position themselves for a quick come up for the 20/21 season.

[BobbieL]

2 Top Tier Free Agents that they would have loved to and done anything to try to keep are now going to miss what is most likely the entire season next year......and no one knows if they will ever be the players they once were when they do return from injury. So as GS, do you roll the dice and pay them....or even one of them, pretty much giving away $30M+ a season (for each) while they sit out the entire season, or do you not offer them a deal and be stuck with a shell of a former team......while also being known as the team who dropped a very loved player once they injured themselves and pretty much ruined the rest of their career trying to save the team from the brink of elimination?

YIKES!!!

BIG YIKES!!!

They are pretty screwed either way with whatever they do. I mean they almost HAVE TO let Klay and Durant walk in FA so they arnt saddled with one or both of the contracts while not knowing what the player will even look like when they return in the fall of 2020.

At the start of this thread I put out the name of Draymond to the Suns as with the thought that Durant was leaving and there cap space - they might need to rebuild the team so to speak without cap space . Now, with Klay hurt, they really should go on PAUSE for next season. But there is a possibility for them and it involves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Durant agree to a deal - maybe the Warriors can convince the Knicks to do a sign and trade and bring back a guy like Lance Thomas but also be willing to give Denadre Jordan a deal - only a year guaranteed but for like 20m. So a double sign and trade (and really what makret is there for Jordan right now). So Durant goes out and they bring back Deandre, Lance Thomas and wahtever to make the math work. Its not an ideal team but this is takinga long term play and how to use Durant - if he leaves - to get cap space

Secondly, maybe its time to trade Draymond. Get some assets. Bring back Livingston - Iguodalas will be in his last year

Get your draft pick, load manage the hell out of Curry next year -- and roll with a pretty average team but at least you will have cap space in the summer of 2020 to do something

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

Not sure they have any other options Maybe they keep Green but his value will never be higher. He was balling this playoffs. Granted, he is perfect for that team as he doesn't need to score: his passing, defense, rebounding and IQ may not fit with everybody. Durant, if he leaves - they better hope for some kind of sign and trade and maybe the players I mention and a protected pick (for the Nets I thought of Dudley and Ed Davis and picks) They are so capped out, tough to make moves. I don't feel bad for them - they got 3 in five years!! The only thing they have with Durant and a sign and trade is can't they give Durant 5 years - so for a team like the Knicks and Nets - there would be some benefit in giving future FRP picks. But nothing unprotected in 2020.

[BobbieL]

At the start of this thread I put out the name of Draymond to the Suns as with the thought that Durant was leaving and there cap space - they might need to rebuild the team so to speak without cap space . Now, with Klay hurt, they really should go on PAUSE for next season. But there is a possibility for them and it involves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Durant agree to a deal - maybe the Warriors can convince the Knicks to do a sign and trade and bring back a guy like Lance Thomas but also be willing to give Denadre Jordan a deal - only a year guaranteed but for like 20m. So a double sign and trade (and really what makret is there for Jordan right now). So Durant goes out and they bring back Deandre, Lance Thomas and wahtever to make the math work. Its not an ideal team but this is takinga long term play and how to use Durant - if he leaves - to get cap space

Secondly, maybe its time to trade Draymond. Get some assets. Bring back Livingston - Iguodalas will be in his last year

Get your draft pick, load manage the hell out of Curry next year -- and roll with a pretty average team but at least you will have cap space in the summer of 2020 to do something

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

Not that anyone is going to feel too bad for them after this 5 year run but they are in a brutal spot next year with really no easy fix. Hard to see where their going to find enough scoring next season. They need to be careful not to run Curry into the ground chasing a lost season. I assume they keep Klay and while it sucks he tore his ACL those aren't that concerning from a long term perspective anymore so they need to position themselves for a quick come up for the 20/21 season.

Curry is going to play a schedule like Kawhi played this year. 60 games and 32 mpg. Beg Livingston to come back just to play 20 -24 mpg . Quin Cook and Jordan Bell are FAs and they can give both a Fred Van Vleet deal but at the same time - do you want to tie up cap for 20/21 on Cook. I think a guy like LOoney - I am not sure they can bring him back since didn't they renounce his rights or something. Boogie might go back as hemight not have better options.

[WeekapaugGroove]

At the start of this thread I put out the name of Draymond to the Suns as with the thought that Durant was leaving and there cap space - they might need to rebuild the team so to speak without cap space . Now, with Klay hurt, they really should go on PAUSE for next season. But there is a possibility for them and it involves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Durant agree to a deal - maybe the Warriors can convince the Knicks to do a sign and trade and bring back a guy like Lance Thomas but also be willing to give Denadre Jordan a deal - only a year guaranteed but for like 20m. So a double sign and trade (and really what makret is there for Jordan right now). So Durant goes out and they bring back Deandre, Lance Thomas and wahtever to make the math work. Its not an ideal team but this is takinga long term play and how to use Durant - if he leaves - to get cap space

Secondly, maybe its time to trade Draymond. Get some assets. Bring back Livingston - Iguodalas will be in his last year

Get your draft pick, load manage the hell out of Curry next year -- and roll with a pretty average team but at least you will have cap space in the summer of 2020 to do something

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

Not sure they have any other options Maybe they keep Green but his value will never be higher. He was balling this playoffs. Granted, he is perfect for that team as he doesn't need to score: his passing, defense, rebounding and IQ may not fit with everybody. Durant, if he leaves - they better hope for some kind of sign and trade and maybe the players I mention and a protected pick (for the Nets I thought of Dudley and Ed Davis and picks) They are so capped out, tough to make moves. I don't feel bad for them - they got 3 in five years!! The only thing they have with Durant and a sign and trade is can't they give Durant 5 years - so for a team like the Knicks and Nets - there would be some benefit in giving future FRP picks. But nothing unprotected in 2020.

Can't do 5 yr sign and trades anymore. There's no contractual advantage for the player or aquiring team in sign and trades in the new CBA, why you just don't see as many these days.

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[BobbieL]

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

Not sure they have any other options Maybe they keep Green but his value will never be higher. He was balling this playoffs. Granted, he is perfect for that team as he doesn't need to score: his passing, defense, rebounding and IQ may not fit with everybody. Durant, if he leaves - they better hope for some kind of sign and trade and maybe the players I mention and a protected pick (for the Nets I thought of Dudley and Ed Davis and picks) They are so capped out, tough to make moves. I don't feel bad for them - they got 3 in five years!! The only thing they have with Durant and a sign and trade is can't they give Durant 5 years - so for a team like the Knicks and Nets - there would be some benefit in giving future FRP picks. But nothing unprotected in 2020.

Can't do 5 yr sign and trades anymore. There's no contractual advantage for the player or aquiring team in sign and trades in the new CBA, why you just don't see as many these days.

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If that’s the case - the Warriors, if IF , Durant leaves for NYK or Brooklyn - they would be lucky to get players back that I mention. And for those players- it’s just a one year high pay day. For the Warriors - it’s just to have a .500 team and not run Curry and if there Green, into the ground. Wow - tough offseason ahead.

[Kerrsed]

Just what they want to do when opening up their new expensive fancy arena in San Francisco , dumping 3 top tier players and putting what would be a very underwhelming (Mediocre would be an understatement) product on the floor.

Not sure they have any other options Maybe they keep Green but his value will never be higher. He was balling this playoffs. Granted, he is perfect for that team as he doesn't need to score: his passing, defense, rebounding and IQ may not fit with everybody. Durant, if he leaves - they better hope for some kind of sign and trade and maybe the players I mention and a protected pick (for the Nets I thought of Dudley and Ed Davis and picks) They are so capped out, tough to make moves. I don't feel bad for them - they got 3 in five years!! The only thing they have with Durant and a sign and trade is can't they give Durant 5 years - so for a team like the Knicks and Nets - there would be some benefit in giving future FRP picks. But nothing unprotected in 2020.

Can't do 5 yr sign and trades anymore. There's no contractual advantage for the player or aquiring team in sign and trades in the new CBA, why you just don't see as many these days.

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True, and S&Ts have become more rare. The Top Tier players dont want 5 year deals anymore, they make more money with the 1+1 deals as they can get a higher dollar max deal every year instead of being on the 4th year of a deal which is paying them whatever the max was 4 years before when they signed the contract (Of course this excludes Supermax eligible players which is an entirely different scenario). Also with the short deals players have much more control of their situation (No trade clause or allow them to escape a sinking ship). Its usually the lesser players or injury risks or young guys that want the long term deals.

What would be a smart play is for the Sixers to go after Green, and if GS could get a S&T Tobias Harris (and a pick) it would probably be the smartest thing both teams and Harris could do.

[Jarlaxle0204]

Maybe we could trade TJ and Elie for Draymond. It would certainly balance out our roster while saving the Warriors money and giving them productive younger players. Who would need to add more?

[BobbieL]

Not sure they have any other options Maybe they keep Green but his value will never be higher. He was balling this playoffs. Granted, he is perfect for that team as he doesn't need to score: his passing, defense, rebounding and IQ may not fit with everybody. Durant, if he leaves - they better hope for some kind of sign and trade and maybe the players I mention and a protected pick (for the Nets I thought of Dudley and Ed Davis and picks) They are so capped out, tough to make moves. I don't feel bad for them - they got 3 in five years!! The only thing they have with Durant and a sign and trade is can't they give Durant 5 years - so for a team like the Knicks and Nets - there would be some benefit in giving future FRP picks. But nothing unprotected in 2020.

Can't do 5 yr sign and trades anymore. There's no contractual advantage for the player or aquiring team in sign and trades in the new CBA, why you just don't see as many these days.

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True, and S&Ts have become more rare. The Top Tier players dont want 5 year deals anymore, they make more money with the 1+1 deals as they can get a higher dollar max deal every year instead of being on the 4th year of a deal which is paying them whatever the max was 4 years before when they signed the contract (Of course this excludes Supermax eligible players which is an entirely different scenario). Also with the short deals players have much more control of their situation (No trade clause or allow them to escape a sinking ship). Its usually the lesser players or injury risks or young guys that want the long term deals.

What would be a smart play is for the Sixers to go after Green, and if GS could get a S&T Tobias Harris (and a pick) it would probably be the smartest thing both teams and Harris could do.

That would be an excellent trade for both teams. Green on the Sixers would be an excellent fit. Warriors getting Harris would help for 2020/21 when Klay returns and even probably help the Warriors next year more than Green as he, Harris can score.

Millsap and Lowry got 90/3- is Green that amount of player?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Can't do 5 yr sign and trades anymore. There's no contractual advantage for the player or aquiring team in sign and trades in the new CBA, why you just don't see as many these days.

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True, and S&Ts have become more rare. The Top Tier players dont want 5 year deals anymore, they make more money with the 1+1 deals as they can get a higher dollar max deal every year instead of being on the 4th year of a deal which is paying them whatever the max was 4 years before when they signed the contract (Of course this excludes Supermax eligible players which is an entirely different scenario). Also with the short deals players have much more control of their situation (No trade clause or allow them to escape a sinking ship). Its usually the lesser players or injury risks or young guys that want the long term deals.

What would be a smart play is for the Sixers to go after Green, and if GS could get a S&T Tobias Harris (and a pick) it would probably be the smartest thing both teams and Harris could do.

That would be an excellent trade for both teams. Green on the Sixers would be an excellent fit. Warriors getting Harris would help for 2020/21 when Klay returns and even probably help the Warriors next year more than Green as he, Harris can score.

Millsap and Lowry got 90/3- is Green that amount of player?

I don't know if I agree. I don't think you can put any other non shooters with Simmons. IMO Harris is a better fit for that roster than Green.

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[BobbieL]

True, and S&Ts have become more rare. The Top Tier players dont want 5 year deals anymore, they make more money with the 1+1 deals as they can get a higher dollar max deal every year instead of being on the 4th year of a deal which is paying them whatever the max was 4 years before when they signed the contract (Of course this excludes Supermax eligible players which is an entirely different scenario). Also with the short deals players have much more control of their situation (No trade clause or allow them to escape a sinking ship). Its usually the lesser players or injury risks or young guys that want the long term deals.

What would be a smart play is for the Sixers to go after Green, and if GS could get a S&T Tobias Harris (and a pick) it would probably be the smartest thing both teams and Harris could do.

That would be an excellent trade for both teams. Green on the Sixers would be an excellent fit. Warriors getting Harris would help for 2020/21 when Klay returns and even probably help the Warriors next year more than Green as he, Harris can score.

Millsap and Lowry got 90/3- is Green that amount of player?

I don't know if I agree. I don't think you can put any other non shooters with Simmons. IMO Harris is a better fit for that roster than Green.

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For the Suns - I would take Draymond if they got him got a Lowry or Millsap deal - meaning three years. The dollars are the dollars. Love for comparison will be 120/4. Green is 18 + my theoretical 90.

[Wilber85]

What do you guys even want in a PG?

I think

Pass First
Defensive minded is what we need.

I don't think scoring is my #1 concern for PG. If we don't have a PG who can set up Ayton. I think we failed moving forward.

I will still stand by Lonzo Ball . I hate his Dad but I think moving him out of the LA spotlight with Lebron. He will improve his shooting (yes FT shooting sucks) make him shoot 1000 balls a day over the summer. Develop his shot. If he had a shot he would be an all star in the future. I think he is better than any #6 we can get.

[Frank Lee]

Jeebus

Another piper suggestion

Green is going nowhere

Y’all need to temper your suggestions. Jones is not on a Star search like McDannyWannaBe. I can’t imagine him gutting this team for one

[BobbieL]

What do you guys even want in a PG?

I think

Pass First
Defensive minded is what we need.

I don't think scoring is my #1 concern for PG. If we don't have a PG who can set up Ayton. I think we failed moving forward.

I will still stand by Lonzo Ball . I hate his Dad but I think moving him out of the LA spotlight with Lebron. He will improve his shooting (yes FT shooting sucks) make him shoot 1000 balls a day over the summer. Develop his shot. If he had a shot he would be an all star in the future. I think he is better than any #6 we can get.

The ability to pass the ball - especially to Ayton and defend. I think Ball makes a lot of sense

[Cutter]

Yeah I can't see Draymond being happy here at all. I'm sure he is not into dumpster fires. Secondly, he is not a piece you build around. He is strictly a complimentary player that fits perfectly with two of the best shooters in the league in a long time in Curry and Thompson. He is a very good player in the right system, we just don't have the talent or system to maximize his ability.

[Cutter]

i cant imagine a team giving Draymond a max contract, but I'm sure someone will. Now that both Thompson and Durant are out for potentially the entire next season, Warriors might go into panic mode and make some crazy decisions on signing or not signing players who are FA.