Random Rumor and General Offseason Discussion Thread

Post #221 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Guess I’m more of a visual guy. I like to see the reactions. Don’t really care about the tv analysis it’s trash. But ideally I’d be able to see the live thing and also read about it.

Post #222 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Also absolutely despise the “Talk about...” questioning post game and during the draft.

Literally nothing more give up than "talk about" :lol:

Might as well just come out and say well I got nothing and I'm too lazy to even come up with an interesting question to ask the analyst.

cucad8 · Post #223 » by **cucad8** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:34 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Oh, I’d rather follow the draft on twitter and get talks and updates on deals than listen to Fran or whomever interview the drafted player off the stage and say the same things over and over. :dontknow.

We all have our feelings though. I’ll stay is n Twitter throughout for sure.

Yeah, this for me 100%. I don't understand the frustration about "spoiling" the picks, and staying off twitter. I don't need to see guys in suits putting on hats and talking about being ready to get to work. I want rumors and trade info. And I'm getting that on twitter well before the broadcast.

cucad8 · Post #224 » by **cucad8** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:35 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Guess I’m more of a visual guy. I like to see the reactions. Don’t really care about the tv analysis it’s trash. But ideally I’d be able to see the live thing and also read about it.

If you just want to see the reactions, what difference does it make if you know who is about to go on stage?

Post #225 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:37 pm

I mean do you all also like to read about the ending to tv shows before you watch them? There’s a physical element I enjoy when a guy gets picked even if the commentary sucks

Post #226 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:38 pm

cucad8 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Guess I’m more of a visual guy. I like to see the reactions. Don’t really care about the tv analysis it’s trash. But ideally I’d be able to see the live thing and also read about it.

If you just want to see the reactions, what difference does it make if you know who is about to go on stage?

If I know ahead of time it’s monumentally less interesting.

gom · Post #227 » by **gom** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:44 pm

loserX wrote:Apparently official, though don't know if it deserves its own thread: Atlanta trades #44 to Miami for a future 2nd.

Read on Twitter

So now the Hawks are down to 5 picks this year?

I've been hoping Miami could get a second round pick.

nba.com wrote:The Atlanta Hawks Basketball Club has acquired a conditional 2024 second-round draft pick and cash considerations from the Miami Heat in exchange for the 44th overall pick in the 2019 NBA Draft, it was announced today.

Miami also spent their $3.1m.

Turns out Miami spent only $1.88M and gave up range 51-55 on the 2024 SRP:

2024 - 31-50 Own; 51-55 to ATL; 56-60 to CLE

Here is their cash status:

Cash available to send: $1,563,000
Sent $1,800,000 to Suns.
Sent $1,880,000 to Hawks.

That's more cash retained than I thought when I posted. Looks like an inexpensive second round pick, and in this draft I think they will find good value in the #44 range.

Scoot McGroot · Post #228 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:45 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I mean do you all also like to read about the ending to tv shows before you watch them? There’s a physical element I enjoy when a guy gets picked even if the commentary sucks

Oh, I get it and understand. I just tend to hang on Twitter, and if there’s any interesting reactions, it usually makes it pretty quickly onto Twitter. To each their own.

Post #229 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:50 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I mean do you all also like to read about the ending to tv shows before you watch them? There’s a physical element I enjoy when a guy gets picked even if the commentary sucks

Oh, I get it and understand. I just tend to hang on Twitter, and if there’s any interesting reactions, it usually makes it pretty quickly onto Twitter. To each their own.

I’m always on Twitter for my job and so this is a blow to me. But yeah it’s all about preferences.

cucad8 · Post #230 » by **cucad8** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:55 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I mean do you all also like to read about the ending to tv shows before you watch them? There’s a physical element I enjoy when a guy gets picked even if the commentary sucks

I dunno, I don't really see the 2 as similar, but, like mentioned, to each their own. The draft is more a means to an end for me, versus the entertainment and story of a television show.

Scoot McGroot · Post #231 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:56 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I mean do you all also like to read about the ending to tv shows before you watch them? There’s a physical element I enjoy when a guy gets picked even if the commentary sucks

Oh, I get it and understand. I just tend to hang on Twitter, and if there’s any interesting reactions, it usually makes it pretty quickly onto Twitter. To each their own.

I’m always on Twitter for my job and so this is a blow to me. But yeah it’s all about preferences.

Mute "draft" for the night?

nolang1 · Post #232 » by **nolang1** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:57 pm

cucad8 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:Oh, I’d rather follow the draft on twitter and get talks and updates on deals than listen to Fran or whomever interview the drafted player off the stage and say the same things over and over. :dontknow.

We all have our feelings though. I’ll stay is n Twitter throughout for sure.

Yeah, this for me 100%. I don't understand the frustration about "spoiling" the picks, and staying off twitter. I don't need to see guys in suits putting on hats and talking about being ready to get to work. I want rumors and trade info. And I'm getting that on twitter well before the broadcast.

Yeah basically the reason we still have a draft despite any rational argument to the contrary comes down to that a lot of dudes really enjoy this soap opera/awards show type of television event.

Post #233 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:00 pm

nolang1 wrote:
cucad8 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:Oh, I’d rather follow the draft on twitter and get talks and updates on deals than listen to Fran or whomever interview the drafted player off the stage and say the same things over and over. :dontknow.

We all have our feelings though. I’ll stay is n Twitter throughout for sure.

Yeah, this for me 100%. I don't understand the frustration about "spoiling" the picks, and staying off twitter. I don't need to see guys in suits putting on hats and talking about being ready to get to work. I want rumors and trade info. And I'm getting that on twitter well before the broadcast.

Yeah basically the reason we still have a draft despite any rational argument to the contrary comes down to that a lot of dudes really enjoy this soap opera/awards show type of television event.

I guess you like to read about the games instead of watching them then too? Keep your snide remarks to yourself.

nolang1 · Post #234 » by **nolang1** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:04 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
nolang1 wrote:
cucad8 wrote:
Yeah, this for me 100%. I don't understand the frustration about "spoiling" the picks, and staying off twitter. I don't need to see guys in suits putting on hats and talking about being ready to get to work. I want rumors and trade info. And I'm getting that on twitter well before the broadcast.

Yeah basically the reason we still have a draft despite any rational argument to the contrary comes down to that a lot of dudes really enjoy this soap opera/awards show type of television event.

I guess you like to read about the games instead of watching them then too? Keep your snide remarks to yourself.

No, the better analogy would be that I prefer to both watch and read about what happened in the actual game rather than seeing what the players were wearing beforehand or which sassy remark one of them made on social media or which hot take some ESPN talking head crapped out.

Post #235 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:09 pm

nolang1 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
nolang1 wrote:
Yeah basically the reason we still have a draft despite any rational argument to the contrary comes down to that a lot of dudes really enjoy this soap opera/awards show type of television event.

I guess you like to read about the games instead of watching them then too? Keep your snide remarks to yourself.

No, the better analogy would be that I like to watch the games instead of seeing what the players were wearing beforehand or which sassy remark one of them made on social media or which hot take some ESPN talking head had in reaction to the actual game.

Go back to the general board with that noise we’re adults here on the trade board.

Post #236 » by **loserX** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:10 pm

Alright guys, let's keep it civil, please. Some of us prefer the tweets, others prefer without. That's all okay.

Post #237 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:13 pm

loserX wrote:Alright guys, let's keep it civil, please. Some of us prefer the tweets, others prefer without. That's all okay.

Yeah and I didn’t say otherwise. But one random poster wants to try to paint enjoying the visuals as a soap opera I’m not letting it slide. That’s GB type crap.

Post #238 » by **loserX** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:17 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
loserX wrote:Alright guys, let's keep it civil, please. Some of us prefer the tweets, others prefer without. That's all okay.

Yeah and I didn’t say otherwise. But one random poster wants to try to paint enjoying the visuals as a soap opera I’m not letting it slide. That’s GB type crap.

I think you know this

Go back to the general board with that noise we’re adults here on the trade board.

is not okay. Challenge the post, not the poster.

Dupp · Post #239 » by **Dupp** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:19 pm

What is the point of delaying free agency? Why couldn’t it be pulled back and start now or earlier?

Scoot McGroot · Post #240 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:21 pm

Dupp wrote:What is the point of delaying free agency? Why couldn’t it be pulled back and start now or earlier?

The negotiations start on June 30, during the moratorium where all the numbers are crunched and audited by both the league and players association so that things like the cap, luxury tax line, MLE, BAE, max contract offers, etc, all have to be figured out.