VCfor3 wrote:I don't think MIN attaches both Culver and a 1st to Wiggins. I think you probably just get Culver. I tried to come up with a dozen ideas (in no particular order) of option that MIGHT be on the table depending on how FA breaks.
1. Mozgov+ORL 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
2. Bridges+Batum for Crowder (technically you’d have to make the Conley deal a three team deal)
3. Biyombo+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
4. MKG+Monk for TPE/Fake 2nd
5. Evan Turner+POR 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
6. Wiggins+Culver for Korver (Korver waived, technically this would again be a three team trade with Utah)
7. Dieng+MIN 2020 1st Top 6 protected+two 2nds for TPE/Fake 2nd (if we don’t resign JV)
8. Gallinari+LAC 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
9. Mason Plumlee+DEN 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
10. Dennis Schroeder+OKC 2024 1st Top 1 protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
11. Nene+Deyonta Davis+small contract of HOU choice+HOU 2020 1st Top 20 protected for Crowder
12. Biyombo+MKG+Monk+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for Crowder+Korver
#8 would be awesome since Gallinari is actually a good player. I'm still a little hesitant to take on Wiggins since I think he'd be bad for our culture. #2 to get Bridges is probably another of my favorites even though we'd have Batum on the books next offseason as well. Most of these deals net you a 2020 protected 1st.
If Minnesota are only offering Culver to save 110m & to potentially fill a roster hole in FA. Memphis would be better off using that cap space on Terrance Ross, an older, proven version of Culver who won't cost 110m or is an unproven talent. There has to be real incentive to take on the worse league contract next to Paul. I was acutually thinking about 2 FRP's or atleast one FRP, the right to swap & settled on being good with one additional pick to get the deal done. Minnesota are not only dropping a terrible contract/110m, they're obtaining the opportunity to land Russell in order to appease Kat. That's alot of value Memphis are affording them, if they have a shot at Russell in FA.
If I was a Cats fan, I wouldn't be good with giving up Bridges for Crowder in order to dump what's remaining of Batum's 2yr contract. That's a pure financial move for Charlotte that doesn't necessarily make them better while giving up one of their few promising young pieces. I think they need to see the incentive to potentially upgrade the roster to part with Bridges.
(Adams, K. Anderson) for (Batum, Bridges, FRP)
I do like the Idea of dealing Adams to Charlotte. OKC get their 24m salary dump but it's a considerably better contract than Wiggins where the suggested value is Culver/FRP or Bridges/FRP (This is why Minnesota needs to do better than just Culver if they want the chance to sign Russell & dump one of the leagues worse contracts) there's just better ways teams/Memphis can use that cap space. Charlotte finally address their hole at centre, dump Batum's contract into something more useful, which they have been trying to do for a while & in the process, give Kemba the incentive to stay, contend. Including K. Anderson in the deal. Opens the Memphis SF spot for Bridges & helps prevent Charlotte from creating a hole, to fill one.
Adams
Marvin
K.Anderon
Lamb
Walker
Adams & Wiggins would be what I'd primarily use the TPE on. The worse the contract, the better the assets. If Memphis don't want the financial burden, then something along the lines of trades (5, 7, 10, 12). To backup Jonas. I'm not behind the idea of letting potential value walk. Jonas is a 20 & 10 player in Memphis on good efficiency & in under 30mins. His defensive weaknesses are also over stated & misleading stat wise because he played 98% of his minutes starting with a poor defender in Derozan. Where most players/starters bolster numbers playing minutes against apposing benches & with different units, complimentary pieces.
I haven't looked at the stats but I'd bet Jonas numbers looked better playing for Memphis after trade.