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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#241 » by SD2042 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:22 pm

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Taking MKG would be cheaper and Biyombo really isn't that much more expensive. Plus you could keep them and not have to waive them if you wanted (both are expiring contracts). I wouldn't stretch anyone.


I guess from that aspect, you make a good point. I can't stand Biyombo because he has been a complete bust with the exception of his lone season run with the Raptors from four seasons ago. From that point, the Grizzlies need to re-sign JV to a solid and reasonable contract. To MKG, defensively, he's alright. Overall, he came into the league very overrated and didn't deserve the hype he receive before he was drafted.

Granted these two have expiring contracts for the upcoming season and would likely suit the Grizzlies for salary cap purposes, these guys just don't do it for me. They play for a team that had been mired by mediocrity for years. The same type of mediocrity that breeds lack of player development and and better success rates throughout it's tenure. I remember when Mike's name was linked to Charlotte back at the trade deadline. I was praying the Grizzlies do not deal with Charlotte because they do not have any players outside of Kemba I would want playing for the team.


Culture taking a hit is fair. I just saw them as salary dumps but you make a good point. Maybe you could negotiate a buyout with them. They could give back the equivalent of the vet min and then go play for the Lakers on a min contract while we pay them the rest of their original salary.



It's possible that a buyout could happen if the trade went down with Charlotte with either player. Culture is very important for all businesses across the spectrum including a basketball team. It's about morale, dedication, and your self worth. If an organization operates they are about these ideals and have everyone on the same page to help the organization succeed, then everything is well. If the opposite of these ideals existed in an organization, it will not succeed as plan.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#242 » by Whole Truth » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:36 pm

Now that the Draft is over. This is Memphis' current roster situation.

C - (FA's) Jonas / Noah / Zeller
PF - 3J / Clarke / Crowder / Rabb
SF - Anderson / Bruno / Miles / Parsons
SG - Bradley / Korver / Allen / Brooks (FA) Dorsey / Holiday
PG - JA / Carter (FA) Wright

That's 14 players under contract 6 FA's, 4 of which should be brought back. You'd have to think that Bradley & Krover will get bought out for 5m guaranteed of 15m & that Dorsey will be an odd man out in FA bringing it to 11 roster spots, with Jonas, Noah, Wright & Holiday as the likely key FA's.

3J will play some C. Re-sign Jonas, Noah if reasonable, with Zeller the odd man out.

C - Jonas / Noah / Rabb
PF - 3J / Clarke / Crowder

Great front court mix of youth, veterans, depth & versatility.

IMO, Memphis should consider a consolidation trade at SF/PF, to open playing time/development mins. If Memphis re-sign all of Jonas, Noah, Wright, Holiday they would be 4 deep at both SF & PF, some of those options combo forwards with most of 3J's minutes likely coming at PF.

Memphis trade - (Crowder/Miles) for (JR Smith)

Waiving Smith along with Bradley & Korver would be 9m guaranteed of 35m. Which could help keep all of Jonas, Noah, Wright, Holiday & make use of the TPE with an open roster spot for future assets.

C - Jonas / Noah / Rabb
PF - 3J / Clarke / Parsons
SF - Anderson / Bruno / (TPE Wiggins)
SG - Allen / Brooks / Holiday
PG - Ja / Wright / Carter

With the TPE having a years lifespan, maybe waiting a year to take on Wiggins, might be better. Ask for the 2020 pick & FRP for 3yrs of his 80m left, when Parsons 24m is coming off the books.

Can someone with better knowledge of this cap situation clarify. Will the TPE be available where Memphis can use the cap holds in the 2020 offseason to advantage it? Where after they use the exception, they can then waive the cap holds to get under the cap?.

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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#243 » by SD2042 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:22 pm

The dark horse is on the roster is JV. He's done a superb job during his short stint with the Grizzlies. I would like for him to return to the team f the money and years permits that ti happen. If it doesn't happen, who will the Grizzlies have as a backup plan if JV leaves for good?

As for the Smith contract, it's still in play. Luxury tax teams is currently hunting down that deal to get them below the tax. Cleveland knows it and will likely take the best deal available.

As for Joakim Noah and Tyler Zeller, they will not likely to return to the Grizzlies and will likely move forward. Which means the Grizzlies could be in the market for a backup center as well.

Another scorer needs to be added to the squad if possible to help keep the defenses at bay and balanced out.
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Post#244 » by VCfor3 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:47 pm

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I kinda hope we keep Korver. He supposedly acted like a secondary shooting coach for Cleveland's young guys when he was there and that would be helpful for both Ja and Clarke. It also adds shooting to put around Ja.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#245 » by Whole Truth » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:20 pm

VCfor3 wrote:This may be an unpopular opinion, but I kinda hope we keep Korver. He supposedly acted like a secondary shooting coach for Cleveland's young guys when he was there and that would be helpful for both Ja and Clarke. It also adds shooting to put around Ja.


Buy him out & hire him as a shooting coach.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#246 » by VCfor3 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:29 pm

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VCfor3 wrote:This may be an unpopular opinion, but I kinda hope we keep Korver. He supposedly acted like a secondary shooting coach for Cleveland's young guys when he was there and that would be helpful for both Ja and Clarke. It also adds shooting to put around Ja.


Buy him out & hire him as a shooting coach.


If you buy him out, he is signing with LAL for the min.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#247 » by Whole Truth » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:33 pm

SD2042 wrote:The dark horse is on the roster is JV. He's done a superb job during his short stint with the Grizzlies. I would like for him to return to the team f the money and years permits that ti happen. If it doesn't happen, who will the Grizzlies have as a backup plan if JV leaves for good?

As for the Smith contract, it's still in play. Luxury tax teams is currently hunting down that deal to get them below the tax. Cleveland knows it and will likely take the best deal available.

As for Joakim Noah and Tyler Zeller, they will not likely to return to the Grizzlies and will likely move forward. Which means the Grizzlies could be in the market for a backup center as well.

Another scorer needs to be added to the squad if possible to help keep the defenses at bay and balanced out.


Memphis won't be able to do better than Jonas if he walks, they would most likely have to turn to a less effective cheaper option to eat mins.

Whiteside is rumored to be demanding a trade from Heat, he wants playing time. Memphis could consolidate some of their contracts into his 25m.

Cavs targeted Hayward because they want to put a couple pieces that could help them advance their team. Crowder & Miles gives them solid cheap role players that provide additional shooting & in the case of Crowder a versatile defensive stretch forward.

I hope Memphis manage to keep Noah also, though he might ring chase. If Noah walks & Memphis need a backup C, consolidate a couple contracts into Bizz's expiring contract. (Crowder, Miles) for (Bizz)
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#248 » by jman3134 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:13 pm

Um, I actually love Hassan Whiteside, even if he is a holdover from a bygone big man era. Can he run with Ja and function as a pick and roll player in space? I would take his contract because of his rim protecting. Can envision him catching lobs from Ja along with JJ and Clarke. Would really be a fun addition in my mind.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#249 » by Whole Truth » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:49 pm

jman3134 wrote:Um, I actually love Hassan Whiteside, even if he is a holdover from a bygone big man era. Can he run with Ja and function as a pick and roll player in space? I would take his contract because of his rim protecting. Can envision him catching lobs from Ja along with JJ and Clarke. Would really be a fun addition in my mind.


The trade rumor for Whiteside had him going to Charlotte.

I'd be weary of Whiteside though. He's disgruntled with the Heat because of his playing time & touches. What happens if Memphis want to play 3J extended mins at C for whatever reason?. Jonas on the other hand is a consummate professional that doesn't question coaching decisions or directional choices.
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Post#250 » by jman3134 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 pm

He is a bit of a headcase, but I think it is somewhat overstated. The NBA is moving away from the traditional big and he doesn't really fit Miami's team construction. It would be frustrating working yourself to a certain level, only to sit on the bench because you don't fit how the team is constructed stylistically. Just a strange situation given the fact that they gave him that huge contract.

Ja Morant's floor game could rejuvenate a traditional big man role if Whiteside cuts weight and runs the floor. Ja's dribble drive post entry feeds this past season were something from another planet in the half court. I remember him zipping an interior pass to Cobert - he hit him in stride half way through his spin to the basket. Basically, the timing was so good that Cobert (who is slow) went right up before Marquette could even break through the screen. Found the play I was thinking of - @3:17 - 3:31

If he doesn't comply you cut him. The point would be to acquire high draft picks - so some package would have to include this.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#251 » by SD2042 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:30 am

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jman3134 wrote:Um, I actually love Hassan Whiteside, even if he is a holdover from a bygone big man era. Can he run with Ja and function as a pick and roll player in space? I would take his contract because of his rim protecting. Can envision him catching lobs from Ja along with JJ and Clarke. Would really be a fun addition in my mind.


The trade rumor for Whiteside had him going to Charlotte.

I'd be weary of Whiteside though. He's disgruntled with the Heat because of his playing time & touches. What happens if Memphis want to play 3J extended mins at C for whatever reason?. Jonas on the other hand is a consummate professional that doesn't question coaching decisions or directional choices.



It's funny that Whiteside's name gets mentioned here once again. It reminds me of how the Grizzlies had him here for a tryout. They dropped him and he gets an opportunity to play in Miami and produces. Times have changed in the last two seasons between both Whiteside and the Heat. He could be a backup option in case JV takes off.
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Post#252 » by Whole Truth » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:38 am

Here we go ..

During the draft, Minnesota trade up to 6 & pass on white for Culver. The 6th pick is worth roughly 5m. If Minnesota remove their non guaranteed contracts & waive the QO. They would be at 0 cap space.

According to Zach Lowe of ESPN. - "The Minnesota Timberwolves reportedly believe they have a pathway to sign D’Angelo Russell this summer",

Timberwolves All-Star big man Karl-Anthony Towns is very close friends with Russell.

“There has been a lot of Minnesota D’Angelo Russell noise,” Lowe said. “And it’s not all Karl Towns commenting on Instagram because they’re friends. Minnesota has communicated to the league, not the NBA league, just the league at large that they believe they have a pathway to get D’Angelo Russell.
“I can’t see what it is because they’re capped out and they have all of these contracts nobody wants, but they’ve communicated that.”


https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-rumors-minnesota-believes-they-have-a-pathway-to-sign-dangelo-russell-this-summer/

The only way Minnesota can sign Russell is if they trade Wiggins into space. Their interest in Russell is why they managed to pass on white. The team that created a 25m TPE could use a young 3&D SG like Culver. That 6th pick as I mentioned counts as 5m against the cap, in combination with Wiggins 25m that would give Minnesota 30m in cap space.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins, 2022 FRP) for (25m TPE)
Minnesota trade - (#6 Culver) for (2nd round pick)

= 30m

They use Culver. FRP to Dump Wiggins & sign Russell
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Post#253 » by VCfor3 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:56 am

Whole Truth wrote:Here we go ..

During the draft, Minnesota trade up to 6 & pass on white for Culver. The 6th pick is worth roughly 5m. If Minnesota remove their non guaranteed contracts & waive the QO. They would be at 0 cap space.

According to Zach Lowe of ESPN. - "The Minnesota Timberwolves reportedly believe they have a pathway to sign D’Angelo Russell this summer",

Timberwolves All-Star big man Karl-Anthony Towns is very close friends with Russell.

“There has been a lot of Minnesota D’Angelo Russell noise,” Lowe said. “And it’s not all Karl Towns commenting on Instagram because they’re friends. Minnesota has communicated to the league, not the NBA league, just the league at large that they believe they have a pathway to get D’Angelo Russell.
“I can’t see what it is because they’re capped out and they have all of these contracts nobody wants, but they’ve communicated that.”


https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-rumors-minnesota-believes-they-have-a-pathway-to-sign-dangelo-russell-this-summer/

The only way Minnesota can sign Russell is if they trade Wiggins into space. Their interest in Russell is why they managed to pass on white. The team that created a 25m TPE could use a young 3&D SG like Culver. That 6th pick as I mentioned counts as 5m against the cap, in combination with Wiggins 25m that would give Minnesota 30m in cap space.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins, 2022 FRP) for (25m TPE)
Minnesota trade - (#6 Culver) for (2nd round pick)

= 30m

They use Culver. FRP to Dump Wiggins & sign Russell


They can move Teague and Dieng to get enough space for Russell as well.
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Post#254 » by Whole Truth » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:15 am

VCfor3 wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:Here we go ..

During the draft, Minnesota trade up to 6 & pass on white for Culver. The 6th pick is worth roughly 5m. If Minnesota remove their non guaranteed contracts & waive the QO. They would be at 0 cap space.

According to Zach Lowe of ESPN. - "The Minnesota Timberwolves reportedly believe they have a pathway to sign D’Angelo Russell this summer",

Timberwolves All-Star big man Karl-Anthony Towns is very close friends with Russell.

“There has been a lot of Minnesota D’Angelo Russell noise,” Lowe said. “And it’s not all Karl Towns commenting on Instagram because they’re friends. Minnesota has communicated to the league, not the NBA league, just the league at large that they believe they have a pathway to get D’Angelo Russell.
“I can’t see what it is because they’re capped out and they have all of these contracts nobody wants, but they’ve communicated that.”


https://clutchpoints.com/timberwolves-rumors-minnesota-believes-they-have-a-pathway-to-sign-dangelo-russell-this-summer/

The only way Minnesota can sign Russell is if they trade Wiggins into space. Their interest in Russell is why they managed to pass on white. The team that created a 25m TPE could use a young 3&D SG like Culver. That 6th pick as I mentioned counts as 5m against the cap, in combination with Wiggins 25m that would give Minnesota 30m in cap space.

Minnesota trade - (Wiggins, 2022 FRP) for (25m TPE)
Minnesota trade - (#6 Culver) for (2nd round pick)

= 30m

They use Culver. FRP to Dump Wiggins & sign Russell


They can move Teague and Dieng to get enough space for Russell as well.


True

However, with Memphis having limited roster spots. They might be better off taking on the single salary. Wiggins also potentially hold's value either as a reclamation target or large 30m expiring when Ja & Jaren are ready to contend. Could be a trade filler.

Buyout Bradley & Korver = 15m saved along with the 13m by trading Conley into Jazz's cap space. = 28m, Conley's salary.

Conley will have been traded for (Wiggins, Crowder, Allen, Culver, 2 FRP's) for taking on 2 additional yrs of Wiggins contract 50-60m.

Follow that up by trying to consolidate Anderson & Crowder into Smiths non guaranteed contract. = removing Andersons 4yr 8m against Wiggins 25 for a 17m 4yr difference + the additional 11m by waving Smith

Jonas / Noah / Rabb
3J / Clarke / Parsons
Wiggins / Bruno / Miles
Culver / Allen / Holiday?
Ja / Wright / Carter

+ 2 FRP's 2022
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Post#255 » by VCfor3 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:02 am

I don't think MIN attaches both Culver and a 1st to Wiggins. I think you probably just get Culver. I tried to come up with a dozen ideas (in no particular order) of option that MIGHT be on the table depending on how FA breaks.

1. Mozgov+ORL 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
2. Bridges+Batum for Crowder (technically you’d have to make the Conley deal a three team deal)
3. Biyombo+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
4. MKG+Monk for TPE/Fake 2nd
5. Evan Turner+POR 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
6. Wiggins+Culver for Korver (Korver waived, technically this would again be a three team trade with Utah)
7. Dieng+MIN 2020 1st Top 6 protected+two 2nds for TPE/Fake 2nd (if we don’t resign JV)
8. Gallinari+LAC 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
9. Mason Plumlee+DEN 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
10. Dennis Schroeder+OKC 2024 1st Top 1 protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
11. Nene+Deyonta Davis+small contract of HOU choice+HOU 2020 1st Top 20 protected for Crowder
12. Biyombo+MKG+Monk+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for Crowder+Korver

#8 would be awesome since Gallinari is actually a good player. I'm still a little hesitant to take on Wiggins since I think he'd be bad for our culture. #2 to get Bridges is probably another of my favorites even though we'd have Batum on the books next offseason as well. Most of these deals net you a 2020 protected 1st.
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Post#256 » by Whole Truth » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:11 pm

VCfor3 wrote:I don't think MIN attaches both Culver and a 1st to Wiggins. I think you probably just get Culver. I tried to come up with a dozen ideas (in no particular order) of option that MIGHT be on the table depending on how FA breaks.

1. Mozgov+ORL 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
2. Bridges+Batum for Crowder (technically you’d have to make the Conley deal a three team deal)
3. Biyombo+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
4. MKG+Monk for TPE/Fake 2nd
5. Evan Turner+POR 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
6. Wiggins+Culver for Korver (Korver waived, technically this would again be a three team trade with Utah)
7. Dieng+MIN 2020 1st Top 6 protected+two 2nds for TPE/Fake 2nd (if we don’t resign JV)
8. Gallinari+LAC 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
9. Mason Plumlee+DEN 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
10. Dennis Schroeder+OKC 2024 1st Top 1 protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
11. Nene+Deyonta Davis+small contract of HOU choice+HOU 2020 1st Top 20 protected for Crowder
12. Biyombo+MKG+Monk+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for Crowder+Korver

#8 would be awesome since Gallinari is actually a good player. I'm still a little hesitant to take on Wiggins since I think he'd be bad for our culture. #2 to get Bridges is probably another of my favorites even though we'd have Batum on the books next offseason as well. Most of these deals net you a 2020 protected 1st.


If Minnesota are only offering Culver to save 110m & to potentially fill a roster hole in FA. Memphis would be better off using that cap space on Terrance Ross, an older, proven version of Culver who won't cost 110m or is an unproven talent. There has to be real incentive to take on the worse league contract next to Paul. I was acutually thinking about 2 FRP's or atleast one FRP, the right to swap & settled on being good with one additional pick to get the deal done. Minnesota are not only dropping a terrible contract/110m, they're obtaining the opportunity to land Russell in order to appease Kat. That's alot of value Memphis are affording them, if they have a shot at Russell in FA.

If I was a Cats fan, I wouldn't be good with giving up Bridges for Crowder in order to dump what's remaining of Batum's 2yr contract. That's a pure financial move for Charlotte that doesn't necessarily make them better while giving up one of their few promising young pieces. I think they need to see the incentive to potentially upgrade the roster to part with Bridges.

(Adams, K. Anderson) for (Batum, Bridges, FRP)

I do like the Idea of dealing Adams to Charlotte. OKC get their 24m salary dump but it's a considerably better contract than Wiggins where the suggested value is Culver/FRP or Bridges/FRP (This is why Minnesota needs to do better than just Culver if they want the chance to sign Russell & dump one of the leagues worse contracts) there's just better ways teams/Memphis can use that cap space. Charlotte finally address their hole at centre, dump Batum's contract into something more useful, which they have been trying to do for a while & in the process, give Kemba the incentive to stay, contend. Including K. Anderson in the deal. Opens the Memphis SF spot for Bridges & helps prevent Charlotte from creating a hole, to fill one.

Adams
Marvin
K.Anderon
Lamb
Walker

Adams & Wiggins would be what I'd primarily use the TPE on. The worse the contract, the better the assets. If Memphis don't want the financial burden, then something along the lines of trades (5, 7, 10, 12). To backup Jonas. I'm not behind the idea of letting potential value walk. Jonas is a 20 & 10 player in Memphis on good efficiency & in under 30mins. His defensive weaknesses are also over stated & misleading stat wise because he played 98% of his minutes starting with a poor defender in Derozan. Where most players/starters bolster numbers playing minutes against apposing benches & with different units, complimentary pieces.

I haven't looked at the stats but I'd bet Jonas numbers looked better playing for Memphis after trade.
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Post#257 » by Whole Truth » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:29 pm

OKC trade - (Adams 24m, FRP) for (24m TPE)

Charlotte trade - (Batum, Bizz, Bridges, FRP) for (Adams, K. Anderson, Crowder)

Memphis trade - (24m TPE, K. Anderson, Crowder) for (Batum, Bridges, OKC FRP, Charlotte FRP)
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Post#258 » by VCfor3 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:53 pm

Whole Truth wrote:OKC trade - (Adams 24m, FRP) for (24m TPE)

Charlotte trade - (Batum, Bizz, Bridges, FRP) for (Adams, K. Anderson, Crowder)

Memphis trade - (24m TPE, K. Anderson, Crowder) for (Batum, Bridges, OKC FRP, Charlotte FRP)


OKC isn't using a pick to dump Adams. If anything they expect assets coming back. That also doesn't save Charlotte enough money to get them under the luxury tax.
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Post#259 » by SD2042 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:16 am

Whole Truth wrote:
VCfor3 wrote:I don't think MIN attaches both Culver and a 1st to Wiggins. I think you probably just get Culver. I tried to come up with a dozen ideas (in no particular order) of option that MIGHT be on the table depending on how FA breaks.

1. Mozgov+ORL 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
2. Bridges+Batum for Crowder (technically you’d have to make the Conley deal a three team deal)
3. Biyombo+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
4. MKG+Monk for TPE/Fake 2nd
5. Evan Turner+POR 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
6. Wiggins+Culver for Korver (Korver waived, technically this would again be a three team trade with Utah)
7. Dieng+MIN 2020 1st Top 6 protected+two 2nds for TPE/Fake 2nd (if we don’t resign JV)
8. Gallinari+LAC 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
9. Mason Plumlee+DEN 2020 1st Lottery protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
10. Dennis Schroeder+OKC 2024 1st Top 1 protected for TPE/Fake 2nd
11. Nene+Deyonta Davis+small contract of HOU choice+HOU 2020 1st Top 20 protected for Crowder
12. Biyombo+MKG+Monk+CHA 2020 1st Lottery protected for Crowder+Korver

#8 would be awesome since Gallinari is actually a good player. I'm still a little hesitant to take on Wiggins since I think he'd be bad for our culture. #2 to get Bridges is probably another of my favorites even though we'd have Batum on the books next offseason as well. Most of these deals net you a 2020 protected 1st.


If Minnesota are only offering Culver to save 110m & to potentially fill a roster hole in FA. Memphis would be better off using that cap space on Terrance Ross, an older, proven version of Culver who won't cost 110m or is an unproven talent. There has to be real incentive to take on the worse league contract next to Paul. I was acutually thinking about 2 FRP's or atleast one FRP, the right to swap & settled on being good with one additional pick to get the deal done. Minnesota are not only dropping a terrible contract/110m, they're obtaining the opportunity to land Russell in order to appease Kat. That's alot of value Memphis are affording them, if they have a shot at Russell in FA.

If I was a Cats fan, I wouldn't be good with giving up Bridges for Crowder in order to dump what's remaining of Batum's 2yr contract. That's a pure financial move for Charlotte that doesn't necessarily make them better while giving up one of their few promising young pieces. I think they need to see the incentive to potentially upgrade the roster to part with Bridges.

(Adams, K. Anderson) for (Batum, Bridges, FRP)

I do like the Idea of dealing Adams to Charlotte. OKC get their 24m salary dump but it's a considerably better contract than Wiggins where the suggested value is Culver/FRP or Bridges/FRP (This is why Minnesota needs to do better than just Culver if they want the chance to sign Russell & dump one of the leagues worse contracts) there's just better ways teams/Memphis can use that cap space. Charlotte finally address their hole at centre, dump Batum's contract into something more useful, which they have been trying to do for a while & in the process, give Kemba the incentive to stay, contend. Including K. Anderson in the deal. Opens the Memphis SF spot for Bridges & helps prevent Charlotte from creating a hole, to fill one.

Adams
Marvin
K.Anderon
Lamb
Walker

Adams & Wiggins would be what I'd primarily use the TPE on. The worse the contract, the better the assets. If Memphis don't want the financial burden, then something along the lines of trades (5, 7, 10, 12). To backup Jonas. I'm not behind the idea of letting potential value walk. Jonas is a 20 & 10 player in Memphis on good efficiency & in under 30mins. His defensive weaknesses are also over stated & misleading stat wise because he played 98% of his minutes starting with a poor defender in Derozan. Where most players/starters bolster numbers playing minutes against apposing benches & with different units, complimentary pieces.

I haven't looked at the stats but I'd bet Jonas numbers looked better playing for Memphis after trade.



If Minnesota wants to go after DLo, they would have to take the route that PHX did with T.J. Warren the other night. With this team not going anywhere anytime soon. I would suggest the Wolves talking to the Knicks about acquiring Teague, Dieng, and either Culver or the Wolves 2020 first round pick. The Wolves clear the necessary space to sign DLo. The Knicks absorb some assets plus either Culver or the future 2020 1st pick plus the Knicks still have cap room to sign a few more players to the roster.
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Re: Potential Offseason Moves 

Post#260 » by Whole Truth » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:42 am

VCfor3 wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:OKC trade - (Adams 24m, FRP) for (24m TPE)

Charlotte trade - (Batum, Bizz, Bridges, FRP) for (Adams, K. Anderson, Crowder)

Memphis trade - (24m TPE, K. Anderson, Crowder) for (Batum, Bridges, OKC FRP, Charlotte FRP)


OKC isn't using a pick to dump Adams. If anything they expect assets coming back. That also doesn't save Charlotte enough money to get them under the luxury tax.


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Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.

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3:41 PM - Jun 19, 2019 - Sports illustrated.

Steven Adams averages 13 & 9 on 24m per. He's overpaid for what he brings to the table. The FRP might be protected but if OKC want to dodge the luxury tax, the trade is his 48m, into pure cap space ..

This is the same team that traded Harden to save money so that they could resign Ibaka. Cutting that Adams 24m into pure cap space, is value to that franchise ..

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