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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1401 » by doclinkin » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:51 pm

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Rudy Gay got a 1 year $10M deal last offseason with the Spurs.

Maybe that's the barometer?

Rudy Gay was almost a decade older and was coming off an Achilles injury.


Rudy Gay had 10 years of remarkably steady production, and the year he tore his Achilles was his 2nd best year in defensive rebounding. Rudy's career numbers compare well with Caron Butler, Nico Batum, Robert Horry. If their med staff said he would make a full recovery then its a fair gamble. Rudy gets the benefit of the doubt.

Jabari couldn't get minutes on a bottom feeding Chicago team. Jabari's similarity score comparisons are: basically nobody you remember, plus Andrew Wiggins. There is no benefit of any doubt that Parker has earned. He has earned the doubt without the benefits.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1402 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:52 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Thanks - guessing that they could settle anywhere under than line...
gambitx777 wrote:MLE
2019/20$9,246,000
2020/21$9,708,300
2021/22$10,170,600
2022/23$10,632,900
Total$39,757,800
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Why would we need to use the MLE on Thomas? They’ll just sign him with Bird rights

More of a question... on how the MLE works. Both Sato and Thomas would fall under Bird rights.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1403 » by LeoBrooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:16 pm

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1404 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:18 pm

Ouch..... Well dude all I have to say is if you can get something done you better do it if you want Beal to sign that extension which we obviously do.


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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1405 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:23 pm

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The full quote makes it sound like he isn’t into the ringchasing mindset. There’s more to life than winning a ring.

I think Brad’s personality is more like Damian Lillard than a Kyrie or Anthony Davis. He’d rather stick it out in DC than jump teams.

I think he might want to ringchase later in his career but he seems pretty comfortable for the time being. If he signs the extension this summer it’ll be up when he’s 30yo and he can take stock of the league and his personal goals.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1406 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:15 am

I think just trying to win will go a long way with Beal. So let's see what we do over the next week. We might pull something out of the hat.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1407 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:18 am

If elfrid Payton can stay healthy he might be a decent pick up. I also like bringing temple back at the vet min as a locker room guy. Boogie would be cool at MLE money but I'm worried about his health and if we get him what does that mean for us parting with wall

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1408 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:53 am

nate33 wrote:...I'm totally comfortable with longer contracts for younger players as long as the deals are fair. If Sato wants a 3-year deal, what's the problem? If we sign a youngish free agent like Noah Vonleh or Delon Wright, what's wrong with 4 years?...

Agree totally!
nate33 wrote:They seem to think the market for Jabari Parker is really weak. They were throwing around 1-year $8M as a possible contract. I don't see it. I think he gets at least the MLE for at least 2 guaranteed years.

Honestly, whatever the market is, I just do not understand why we should have any interest in Jabari Parker. He's certainly not any kind of productivity bargain at $8-10m.

I really don't think I have some kind of blind spot -- e.g. I don't dislike the guy. But, along with whatever he does that's good comes everything else he does. You don't get one without the other. Of course, a person can imagine getting the good from Jabari, while he sheds the bad stuff. But, there's no more reason for it to go down in that way than for him to do more of the bad & less of the good.

Jabari's not new to the league. He's played over 7300 minutes. Milwaukee didn't give him a qualifying offer. Chicago couldn't wait to get rid of him after only a few months. Are we going to be the ones who double down on Jabari Parker? Because we have such a stable franchise?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1409 » by doclinkin » Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:50 am

Bradley Beal is such a quality guy. I love that he is committed to working with young players in his AAU affiliation. I honestly would appreciate it if he were more involved in the front office, and all the way down to the G league, or even sponsoring an AAU team and camps under the umbrella of the Wizards. He’s a basketball Lifer and I hope he has influence over the team even well past his playing years. Good guy. Plays the right way. Good head on his shoulders. Loyal. Mindset that his team is his family.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1412 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:19 am

At MLE or less with some team options why the **** not.


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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1413 » by prime1time » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:21 am


I just don't think he's a good player. Better off spending the money somewhere else.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1414 » by 80sballboy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:23 am

gambitx777 wrote:At MLE or less with some team options why the **** not.


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I'd rather have Thomas Bryant with his youthful enthusiasm and potential. No way Boogie settles for the MLE.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1415 » by TGW » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:24 am

gambitx777 wrote:At MLE or less with some team options why the **** not.


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I hate Demarcus Cousins. But this team is so devoid of high level talent, that desperation is setting in. Just bring him in. Maybe he has a good half-season, and you can move him for a pick.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1416 » by 80sballboy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:36 am

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gambitx777 wrote:At MLE or less with some team options why the **** not.


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I hate Demarcus Cousins. But this team is so devoid of high level talent, that desperation is setting in. Just bring him in. Maybe he has a good half-season, and you can move him for a pick.


How in God's name could you have two past their prime former All-Star centers with huge egos in Boogie and Howard, unless you cut Dwight before the season. They couldn't co-exist in today's game. Unless they think Bryant's price will be too high. Even then, I still don't want Cousins.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1417 » by 80sballboy » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:06 am

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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1418 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:07 am

doclinkin wrote:Bradley Beal is such a quality guy. I love that he is committed to working with young players in his AAU affiliation. I honestly would appreciate it if he were more involved in the front office, and all the way down to the G league, or even sponsoring an AAU team and camps under the umbrella of the Wizards. He’s a basketball Lifer and I hope he has influence over the team even well past his playing years. Good guy. Plays the right way. Good head on his shoulders. Loyal. Mindset that his team is his family.

If Beal continues to show loyalty and stays in DC longterm, Ted will give him involvement in the front office if he wants it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that came up in their meeting before the trade deadline. Leonsis may have even put possible part ownership on the table for Brad. He can be a Paul Pierce of this generation and stick it out with his franchise through the ups and downs.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1419 » by TGW » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:14 am

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gambitx777 wrote:At MLE or less with some team options why the **** not.

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I hate Demarcus Cousins. But this team is so devoid of high level talent, that desperation is setting in. Just bring him in. Maybe he has a good half-season, and you can move him for a pick.


How in God's name could you have two past their prime former All-Star centers with huge egos in Boogie and Howard, unless you cut Dwight before the season. They couldn't co-exist in today's game. Unless they think Bryant's price will be too high. Even then, I still don't want Cousins.


Yea I would cut Dwight Howard. His career is basically over IMO.

Trust me; I wouldn't like it at all. But desperate times call for desperate measures. This team lacks talent, and Cousins, despite his terrible attitude, is talented.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#1420 » by TGW » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:19 am

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doclinkin wrote:Bradley Beal is such a quality guy. I love that he is committed to working with young players in his AAU affiliation. I honestly would appreciate it if he were more involved in the front office, and all the way down to the G league, or even sponsoring an AAU team and camps under the umbrella of the Wizards. He’s a basketball Lifer and I hope he has influence over the team even well past his playing years. Good guy. Plays the right way. Good head on his shoulders. Loyal. Mindset that his team is his family.

If Beal continues to show loyalty and stays in DC longterm, Ted will give him involvement in the front office if he wants it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that came up in their meeting before the trade deadline. Leonsis may have even put possible part ownership on the table for Brad. He can be a Paul Pierce of this generation and stick it out with his franchise through the ups and downs.


That would be the silliest thing this franchise has ever done if that were true.

Stop fawning over these players. They are chess pieces. NO, they should not be involved in front office moves, or given ownership stake in the team. Stop the mom-and-pop nonsense.

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