Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

[DowNY]

Lol wtf??? Bruh, make some sense before quoting me. That’s all I ask. The players we signed are bums... look at their careers. I shouldn’t have to explain. Wtf you bringing up the Pels for like it supports your point? Wake up earlier in the morning n pack a fuq’n lunch if u wanna get this garbage past me.

You dodge better than Floyd Mayweather.
I dig it man. Act clueless.

EDIT: let me not even say all that. My bad. You’re not acting.

I’m clueless? This coming from a guy who sports THJr for his avy... you love you some bums

Yeah, an avy is SUCH a good gauge of judgement
I should find a Ron Baker shimmy gif for an avy just for you.
Enjoy man.
You said I don’t warrant responses, yet here you are still responding to me.

[DowNY]

Lol wtf??? Bruh, make some sense before quoting me. That’s all I ask. The players we signed are bums... look at their careers. I shouldn’t have to explain. Wtf you bringing up the Pels for like it supports your point? Wake up earlier in the morning n pack a fuq’n lunch if u wanna get this garbage past me.

You dodge better than Floyd Mayweather.
I dig it man. Act clueless.

Dodging you? Because I won’t post hypothetical trades? Lmao ok. So nobody in the league would be interested in RJ Barrett? Ok. I have to bring to you fake trades to make you believe anyone would trade for him... ok. I get it, I’m assuming you’re suggesting you’re incapable of analytical thought?

Explain to me how Elfrid, Taj, Ellington, and Bullock are leading us to the playoffs please. And you wanna talk about dodging

Yet again you’re convoluting a simple point... passing on a meeting with a superstar for bums. Then wanna try n act like the only players left on the market for a team like us is fuggin Melo n Amare... and I’m playin stupid?

Oh brotha, get this teaching guy outta here

[HarthorneWingo]

I would really like to know how true this is. Multiple reports kept saying the Knicks were one of few teams AD would sign an extension with. And if the Knicks knew for sure that AD would sign long term with them, then you have to trade for him. Trading for AD increase the Knicks chance of getting one or two out of 3 big free agents. I personally think he would have signed long term if the Knicks did added another all star player.

The FO said it would not pay a ransom for players who were going to be FAs the following year. Thankfully, we learned our lesson from 2010. If AD really wants to come here, especially after one year in LA LA LAND, then great. That way (1) we don't give up anything much less a huge haul, and (2) we get this season to see how our kids have developed; who stays and who goes. Win-Win.

It would be nice if you could backup what you are saying with FO evidence/sources. There is so much stories out there I just don't know what to believe as to why the Knicks weren't able to trade for AD. I had to go check again. All I'm reading is the Knicks didn't make a formal offer for Anthony Davis. Either they weren't willing to give up the necessary assets or they didn't have enough. Were they even willing to offer Mitch and RJ plus picks? If I had to guess base on what I'm reading, the Knicks were unwilling to do what the Lakers did to get AD. And getting 1 superstar could mean more will follow sooner rather than later.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/16/why-the-knicks-backed-off-their-anthony-davis-pursuit/

I'm not going to do your research for you. No, the Knicks were not going to give up Mitch. I just laid out the entire picture for you. Why would give up all those assets when you just get him the following season when he's an UFA?

Just relax and watch things unfold.

[spree8]

You dodge better than Floyd Mayweather.
I dig it man. Act clueless.

EDIT: let me not even say all that. My bad. You’re not acting.

I’m clueless? This coming from a guy who sports THJr for his avy... you love you some bums

Yeah, an avy is SUCH a good gauge of judgement
I should find a Ron Baker shimmy gif for an avy just for you.
Enjoy man.
You said I don’t warrant responses, yet here you are still responding to me.

Cuz you keep quoting me again n again n again (just like the one you did after this post I quoted).. you’re obsessed.

And here you are still ducking my question.. I’ll take that as you tapping out. We’re done here.

[Nyk88]

Watch on YouTube

quality dude..

Wow, I don’t recall this, but what an interview. Definitely a quality dude, and I appreciated his candidness. You can def root for a guy like this.

[DowNY]

I’m clueless? This coming from a guy who sports THJr for his avy... you love you some bums

Yeah, an avy is SUCH a good gauge of judgement
I should find a Ron Baker shimmy gif for an avy just for you.
Enjoy man.
You said I don’t warrant responses, yet here you are still responding to me.

Cuz you keep quoting me again n again n again (just like the one you did after this post I quoted).. you’re obsessed.

And here you are still ducking my question.. I’ll take that as you tapping out. We’re done here.

Oh you one of those. Lmao
Dodge questions by having horrible rebuttals. Dodge then throw questions back to fit their narrative. You don’t have to answer mine but I have to answer yours type.
Back to the “Trade & Transactions” thread you go
I dig it man. Enjoy.

[Da_Mane_Man]

The FO said it would not pay a ransom for players who were going to be FAs the following year. Thankfully, we learned our lesson from 2010. If AD really wants to come here, especially after one year in LA LA LAND, then great. That way (1) we don't give up anything much less a huge haul, and (2) we get this season to see how our kids have developed; who stays and who goes. Win-Win.

It would be nice if you could backup what you are saying with FO evidence/sources. There is so much stories out there I just don't know what to believe as to why the Knicks weren't able to trade for AD. I had to go check again. All I'm reading is the Knicks didn't make a formal offer for Anthony Davis. Either they weren't willing to give up the necessary assets or they didn't have enough. Were they even willing to offer Mitch and RJ plus picks? If I had to guess base on what I'm reading, the Knicks were unwilling to do what the Lakers did to get AD. And getting 1 superstar could mean more will follow sooner rather than later.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/16/why-the-knicks-backed-off-their-anthony-davis-pursuit/

I'm not going to do your research for you. No, the Knicks were not going to give up Mitch. I just laid out the entire picture for you. Why would give up all those assets when you just get him the following season when he's an UFA?

Just relax and watch things unfold.

Well you'd get him because it prevents him from spending a year in LA and having the Lakers sell him on staying. It also means you probably guarantee Durant comes. And possibly Irving too in that case.

But that being said, the best thing that can happen now as far as we're concerned is Kawhi doesn't go to the Lakers, they have a tumultuous season, our kids play well and show promise, and then AD bolts and signs with us.

Those are a lot of variables that we don't control however... which is why you don't leave it up to chance and just trade for him. But I'm not that upset we didn't do it cause I'm not crazy about giving up all those assets. I really think Mitch can be special.

[DowNY]

Watch on YouTube

[TruthBeTold]

The FO said it would not pay a ransom for players who were going to be FAs the following year. Thankfully, we learned our lesson from 2010. If AD really wants to come here, especially after one year in LA LA LAND, then great. That way (1) we don't give up anything much less a huge haul, and (2) we get this season to see how our kids have developed; who stays and who goes. Win-Win.

It would be nice if you could backup what you are saying with FO evidence/sources. There is so much stories out there I just don't know what to believe as to why the Knicks weren't able to trade for AD. I had to go check again. All I'm reading is the Knicks didn't make a formal offer for Anthony Davis. Either they weren't willing to give up the necessary assets or they didn't have enough. Were they even willing to offer Mitch and RJ plus picks? If I had to guess base on what I'm reading, the Knicks were unwilling to do what the Lakers did to get AD. And getting 1 superstar could mean more will follow sooner rather than later.

https://nypost.com/2019/06/16/why-the-knicks-backed-off-their-anthony-davis-pursuit/

I'm not going to do your research for you. No, the Knicks were not going to give up Mitch. I just laid out the entire picture for you. Why would give up all those assets when you just get him the following season when he's an UFA?

So you are not going to backup what you are saying?
Knicks were not willing to give up more quality assets than the laker, which support the article I posted.
The Knicks were competing with other teams for AD. The Lakers was one of AD's preferred destination long term, meaning if they trade for him, there is a serious chance they were going to be able to sign him to a long term contract instead of the Knicks. Stars attract other stars like KD which could have also attract Kawhi or Kyrie. Knicks fans love their assets so much, I can't wait to see how many wins they help the Knicks get this upcoming season.

[spree8]

= foe list

[HarthorneWingo]

[HarthorneWingo]

But before I go ... We canceled our meeting with Kawhi.

In case you didn't think you read that correctly, YOU DID!

WE BAD MOFOS!



https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/07/knicks-reportedly-canceled-meeting-with-kawhi-leonard.html

Spoiler:

The Knicks pulled out of a scheduled meeting with Kawhi Leonard, a source tells Marc Berman of The New York Post.

Leonard agreed earlier in the week to meet with Knicks officials, but not until today after he completed sessions with the Lakers and Clippers. New York decided its chances of luring Leonard were remote without Kevin Durant and decided to call off the meeting because of “logistics.” There had been rumors that Leonard and Durant were looking to team up with the Clippers or Knicks, but those plans were scrapped when Durant committed to the Nets on Sunday.

New York’s front office didn’t want to wait for a decision from Leonard before diving into the free agent market. Berman noted that the team exhausted nearly all of its $70MM in cap space in the first 20 hours after free agency began.

The best scenario for the Knicks, he adds, would be for Leonard to sign a one-year deal with an option in Toronto and hit the market again next summer. Julius Randle is the only one of New York’s signees to get a guaranteed multi-year deal.

There’s more from New York City:

The Knicks plan to exercise their $1.5MM team option on Damyean Dotson before the July 15 deadline, Berman adds in the same story. The second-year guard will get increased competition for minutes from free agent additions Reggie Bullock, Wayne Ellington and Elfrid Payton.

Tim Bontemps of ESPN examines whether the Knicks did the right thing by loading up on free agents after their top targets were off the board. While they retained their financial flexibility for the future and should put a better product on the court, they also missed out on a chance to acquire assets by saving some of that cap money to facilitate deals such as the Jimmy Butler sign-and-trade, the Andre Iguodala trade to the Grizzlies or the D’Angelo Russell trade to the Warriors.

Kevin Knox wants to prove his omission from the All-Rookie Team was a mistake, relays Stefan Bondy of The New York Daily News. Knox collected just 22 second-team votes, well short of the amount needed to earn a spot. “Yeah, of course I deserved to make it,” he said. “But it was definitely motivation. I worked hard this summer. That was kind of a chip on my shoulder for me to work hard this summer. Definitely, it w

[symbiotic]

Stat and Melo, Stat and Melo to the Lakers?

[cgmw]

Watch on YouTube

quality dude..

Wow, I don’t recall this, but what an interview. Definitely a quality dude, and I appreciated his candidness. You can def root for a guy like this.

Oh wow, indeed. +100

I will definitely be rooting for this guy. Damn.

[DowNY]

Did Kevin Knox change his number ?

[Knicks Byke]

Do you think kawhi legit waited until June 30th to even think about free agency?

definitely not. he's probably buying time so it seems like he thought long and hard about it. media training.

[Worst_to_First]

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Number 23 looks better on Mitch than 26.

[DOLPHIN2020]

If Kawhi wants to be a Knick now ... today ... all we’d have to do is make room. It wouldn’t be hard. Knox, Frank, RJ would get you there. Or pay a Portis a little more to ship him with a pick to another team like LA, with another player.

On August 1 RJ is tradable. Easy really.

You guys are too linear. Things can be done out of order. So what.

or we could just recind the deals with these free agents since we haven't actually signed anything. That would send a negative message to future free agents but it would be possible.

[DOLPHIN2020]

Don't know if this has been posted or not but...

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Lakers deadass gonna bring people back from retirement just to fill out their bench.

The West Coast Expendables..

[DOLPHIN2020]

... Kawhi taking his damn time though lol

Longer he takes, I believe it favors the Lakers as he is justifying that it was a really hard decision for him to choose the Fakers versus th obvious spots like Totonto and Clippers