(Shams) Revised Deal: Knicks sign Reggie Bullock 2 yr <4.7 mil per year(team option)

[Stannis]

Sours gotta be pissed though, they traded a dude to open up space to sign Morris lol

Read on Twitter

"would serve him right"

that's really poor.

Anyone have the original tweet? It looks like it was deleted

[BowlRips]

I know Morris is a good player and he has potential to fetch a pick at the deadline but we need to find a bad contract and take a future asset now.

Morris is a great role player but we honestly don’t have room in the rotation for him if we have any plans to play any of our young guys. Signing him will only create unhappy players not getting enough minutes.

It appears Westbrook is about to get moved (btw Zach Lowe said on his podcast that Knicks have said they have no interest) and there’s going to need to be a team to assist in that trade.

Take on some dead money, still sign Bullock to the room MLE and your bringing the same roster back you thought you were but with an extra 1st round pick.

At some point we know the Knicks will be in the trade market for a star. Every single first round pick counts. The last 2 deals took 5 first rounders to complete (I know there were special circumstances) but having 3 future firsts from other teams will allow us to trade for a superstar without tapping into our own future picks.

Perry, Mills you got a second chance to add an asset by taking on dead money - something that the fans wants and the main stream media ripped you for not doing. Don’t blow this opportunity again

If we need to take on a contract for a pick why can’t we trade one for a pick? It’s the same difference. Take on a Marv Williams for a pick, trade Taj Gibson for said bad contract and pick. There’s literally no difference outside of helping that team’s draft position by helping their roster situation earlier and having that player better adjusted to his new team. There still a very human component to it all. It’s not fantasy basketball.
We still are trying to build a team to compete.
And we are in a fight for credibility.
We cannot have another 17 win campaign.
Build a team and if all else fails we have the means to basically do whatever we want, take on a pick for dead money or even pony up assets for a star.

How many extra wins is Marcus Morris getting you from now until the trade deadline?
Are those de minimis amount of wins Morris will provide worth creating a rotation so tight that it will have either our other veterans signings sitting on the bench unhappy or cut significantly into the playing time of our young players specifically Knox, Frank, Dotson and Trier?
Does Marcus Morris have legitimate trade value that you can spin him off for a decent asset at the trade deadline?
Does Marcus Morris playing that many minutes decrease the trade value of our other veteran signings (Portis, Gibson, Ellington) as they will have more limited minutes to show their value to playoff contenders?

A bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush.
If there is a veteran player who's contract you can absorb right now that provides you with that extra asset to me is worth a lot more than figuring out the answers to the questions above.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I know Morris is a good player and he has potential to fetch a pick at the deadline but we need to find a bad contract and take a future asset now.

Morris is a great role player but we honestly don’t have room in the rotation for him if we have any plans to play any of our young guys. Signing him will only create unhappy players not getting enough minutes.

It appears Westbrook is about to get moved (btw Zach Lowe said on his podcast that Knicks have said they have no interest) and there’s going to need to be a team to assist in that trade.

Take on some dead money, still sign Bullock to the room MLE and your bringing the same roster back you thought you were but with an extra 1st round pick.

At some point we know the Knicks will be in the trade market for a star. Every single first round pick counts. The last 2 deals took 5 first rounders to complete (I know there were special circumstances) but having 3 future firsts from other teams will allow us to trade for a superstar without tapping into our own future picks.

Perry, Mills you got a second chance to add an asset by taking on dead money - something that the fans wants and the main stream media ripped you for not doing. Don’t blow this opportunity again

Agreed 100% that we should be looking for picks/assets now, but doesnt seem like that will happen. They are trying to win and stay competitive while rebuilding. Its a similiar philosophy we have had for the past 20 years. I dont really agree with it because I dont think we are ready yet to be legit competitive. But I guess that is the direction.

[BowlRips]

I know Morris is a good player and he has potential to fetch a pick at the deadline but we need to find a bad contract and take a future asset now.

Morris is a great role player but we honestly don’t have room in the rotation for him if we have any plans to play any of our young guys. Signing him will only create unhappy players not getting enough minutes.

It appears Westbrook is about to get moved (btw Zach Lowe said on his podcast that Knicks have said they have no interest) and there’s going to need to be a team to assist in that trade.

Take on some dead money, still sign Bullock to the room MLE and your bringing the same roster back you thought you were but with an extra 1st round pick.

At some point we know the Knicks will be in the trade market for a star. Every single first round pick counts. The last 2 deals took 5 first rounders to complete (I know there were special circumstances) but having 3 future firsts from other teams will allow us to trade for a superstar without tapping into our own future picks.

Perry, Mills you got a second chance to add an asset by taking on dead money - something that the fans wants and the main stream media ripped you for not doing. Don’t blow this opportunity again

If we need to take on a contract for a pick why can’t we trade one for a pick? It’s the same difference. Take on a Marv Williams for a pick, trade Taj Gibson for said bad contract and pick. There’s literally no difference outside of helping that team’s draft position by helping their roster situation earlier and having that player better adjusted to his new team. There still a very human component to it all. It’s not fantasy basketball.
We still are trying to build a team to compete.
And we are in a fight for credibility.
We cannot have another 17 win campaign.
Build a team and if all else fails we have the means to basically do whatever we want, take on a pick for dead money or even pony up assets for a star.

Theres also a HUGE difference in terms of value of taking on a bad contract without sending salary back then taking on a bad contract and sending salary back. By just taking salary back you have an opportunity to get a player who is not necessarily a bad contract and probably not a worse contract then any of the ones we signed this off season.

Is Harkless at 1 year $11mil any worse of a contract than Portis, Gibson, Ellington?

OKC will be desperate to cut their payroll in the Westbrook deal.
Is Roberson on a 1 year $11mil deal a bad contract? Taking on that deal might lead you to a first round pick.

[Zenzibar]

I know Morris is a good player and he has potential to fetch a pick at the deadline but we need to find a bad contract and take a future asset now.

Morris is a great role player but we honestly don’t have room in the rotation for him if we have any plans to play any of our young guys. Signing him will only create unhappy players not getting enough minutes.

It appears Westbrook is about to get moved (btw Zach Lowe said on his podcast that Knicks have said they have no interest) and there’s going to need to be a team to assist in that trade.

Take on some dead money, still sign Bullock to the room MLE and your bringing the same roster back you thought you were but with an extra 1st round pick.

At some point we know the Knicks will be in the trade market for a star. Every single first round pick counts. The last 2 deals took 5 first rounders to complete (I know there were special circumstances) but having 3 future firsts from other teams will allow us to trade for a superstar without tapping into our own future picks.

Perry, Mills you got a second chance to add an asset by taking on dead money - something that the fans wants and the main stream media ripped you for not doing. Don’t blow this opportunity again

Bullock seems to have some health concerns or an injury. I'd be all for the Knicks "doing the right thing" and tossing him some money, to keep the goodwill going with agents etc (not that it helped this past FA or anything) but Bullock isn't absolutely necessary, especially if he can't contribute. And recall, he was signed for a 1+1, so they might not have expected to get anything but 1 year anyway.

On a side note, and touched on - Morris is redundant after the Portis signing, but not because of Gibson. I always had Gibson down for about 10 mpg, total, and Randle getting backup C minutes.

Now, I know Portis can play some C, but he seems more like a PF, and he's the one that crowds things.

Have to assume the Knicks wanted Morris (much better defender) and pivoted to Portis when he "signed" with the Spurs.

Rotation:
PG's
SG's
SF: Knox/Morris
PF: Randle/Morris/Portis
C: Mitch/Randle/Portis/Gibson

It's a bit much after Portis, but I'd rather have Morris on the Knicks over Portis. Now they'll have both.

True.

My Dude, what Perry's thought process is to move these vets at the trading deadline for something. But in the interim, help teach Knox how to mix it up down low, Barrett how to absorb contact and follow through, Triers how to run the team etc.

Teams in the playoff hunt will need to stock up on a vet or two for the run and these are good vets that I'm sure team like the Clippers and Lakers wished they had.

[Rasho Brezec]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

[Fury]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

Lol

[Ray Williams]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

If he doesn’t have skill, why do they want him?

[Jeff Van Gully]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

you know the name of the game. your player chose me.

now we can handle this like some gentlemen or we can get into some gangsta ****.

[Fury]

The knicks don’t owe anyone ****. If it were up to me, I’d tell all our signees to pretend they’re signing for another team before signing for us.

[blueNorange]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

if by "bush league" you mean "more cap space and can offer more money" then yes you are 100% correct.

[thebuzzardman]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

Nothing bush league about it. If the NBA didn't want this to happen, there wouldn't be a "moratorium" period. Once a player signs, he's signed. Except those aren't the rules.

Apparently the Spurs, and everyone, takes a bit of a risk.

[Rasho Brezec]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

you know the name of the game. your player chose me.

now we can handle this like some gentlemen or we can get into some gangsta ****.

What's the benefit for the Knicks here? A lotto team adding some meaningless wins next season? You could do that by signing plenty of other players who haven't already verbally agreed to a contract with someone else.

It's unprofessional and it only hurts FO's reputation in the future. It's the type of BS you'd expect from someone like Mavs, who can't make a decent trade or sign a noteworthy free agent to save their lives.

[HarthorneWingo]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

Nothing bush league about it. If the NBA didn't want this to happen, there wouldn't be a "moratorium" period. Once a player signs, he's signed. Except those aren't the rules.

Apparently the Spurs, and everyone, takes a bit of a risk.

We should sign Cole Aldrich instead.

[thebuzzardman]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

you know the name of the game. your player chose me.

now we can handle this like some gentlemen or we can get into some gangsta ****.

What's the benefit for the Knicks here? A lotto team adding some meaningless wins next season? You could do that by signing plenty of other players who haven't already verbally agreed to a contract with someone else.

It's unprofessional and it only hurts FO's reputation in the future. It's the type of BS you'd expect from someone like Mavs, who can't make a decent trade or sign a noteworthy free agent to save their lives.

Smarting over the fact the mighty Al Horford went with the better team in the 76'ers? He went there because they are good, unlike the Mavs who might be good. Or suck.

[Rasho Brezec]

you know the name of the game. your player chose me.

now we can handle this like some gentlemen or we can get into some gangsta ****.

What's the benefit for the Knicks here? A lotto team adding some meaningless wins next season? You could do that by signing plenty of other players who haven't already verbally agreed to a contract with someone else.

It's unprofessional and it only hurts FO's reputation in the future. It's the type of BS you'd expect from someone like Mavs, who can't make a decent trade or sign a noteworthy free agent to save their lives.

Smarting over the fact the mighty Al Horford went with the better team in the 76'ers? He went there because they are good, unlike the Mavs who might be good. Or suck.

Mavs are the type of team who try to get cute with the unwritten rules and they get burned for it more often than not.

[Clincher]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

How is it the Knicks fault that Bullock wasn't fit or healthy upon signing that contract until he was put into a physical? Knicks had more money to spend and simply did a courtesy call to Morris who pledges but not officially signed with the Spurs.

[K_ick_God]

I think the wiggle room that a guy like Morris has is that the injury to Bullock (or whatever it is) was unknown to him too. So the cap room was there that he didn't know was there.

Kind of goes both ways. Knicks don't have to commit if things are different than what they thought when they committed, and Morris also has a different playing field than he realized. That does make it different.

[blueNorange]

This is some bushleague crap from Morris and the Knicks FO. Spurs traded Bertans for nothing so they could make room for Morris.

If you don't have skill, at least have some class.

you know the name of the game. your player chose me.

now we can handle this like some gentlemen or we can get into some gangsta ****.

What's the benefit for the Knicks here? A lotto team adding some meaningless wins next season? You could do that by signing plenty of other players who haven't already verbally agreed to a contract with someone else.

It's unprofessional and it only hurts FO's reputation in the future. It's the type of BS you'd expect from someone like Mavs, who can't make a decent trade or sign a noteworthy free agent to save their lives.

lol no it doesn't, stop crying.

[HarthorneWingo]

you know the name of the game. your player chose me.

now we can handle this like some gentlemen or we can get into some gangsta ****.

What's the benefit for the Knicks here? A lotto team adding some meaningless wins next season? You could do that by signing plenty of other players who haven't already verbally agreed to a contract with someone else.

It's unprofessional and it only hurts FO's reputation in the future. It's the type of BS you'd expect from someone like Mavs, who can't make a decent trade or sign a noteworthy free agent to save their lives.

Smarting over the fact the mighty Al Horford went with the better team in the 76'ers? He went there because they are good, unlike the Mavs who might be good. Or suck.

The Mavs will be great after they acquire Frank.