Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps

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Re: Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps 

Post#401 » by Effigy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:16 am

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Effigy wrote:This trade is so bad for Houston, I wouldn’t have even done CP for Russ straight up. That’s a terrible fit with Harden.


My turn? Your turn?..... You go? I go?


It worked with harden and cp3 their first season and they won 65 games.



Paul was better then, than Russ is now. Paul really doesn’t care if he scores. Russ definitely does.
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Post#402 » by Gnik » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:17 am

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Gnik wrote:Honestly, CP3 can't even stay on the court and has been sh*t a lot of times when he is the past seasons that I actually think shipping him and getting Westbrook is actually a good thing. At the very least, you can get some rest for Harden who has been carrying this team, which was supposed to have 2 superstars with him and CP3.

Plus is Russ not close friends with Harden? I don't see them fighting over the ball if that's the case.


You know how many people are good friends off court but want to bash each others head in when they play together?

A whole lot probably. Friends dont mean jack chemistry is everything.


Are you talking pickup games or professional ballers who do this for a living? We need to know the numbers
Are they not going to develop better chemistry knowing they already have a relationship?

Telling this duo is going to be disruptive knowing they have a good relationship without actually seeing them in the actual games is kinda premature idk LOL
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Re: Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps 

Post#403 » by Metallikid » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:17 am

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_Joker wrote:Now this is going to be interesting.

Gawd damn the West is stacked. Every single game is crucial.


Load management eat your heart out.


Clippers and Lakers have some headaches with load management. You can't afford to be dropping games against the fodder, let alone the contenders.

This has to be the most anticipated season that I can ever remember.


The East is wide open too, just in kinda... kinda the opposite way.

Regardless, Let's Go Raptors!
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Re: Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps 

Post#404 » by CS707 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:17 am

SlowPaced wrote:Number of Rockets fans have been drinking the haterade on Russ for years, now he's on their team :lol:


Second best part.

First is Chris Paul rotting on a rebuilding team. I hope to the basketball gods they don’t somehow flip him to a contender.
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Post#405 » by NBAFan93 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

Adrian_05 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Lmao


I get that this is a fun joke, but all these things are also true about CP3...
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Post#406 » by WestbrookGOATed » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

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letsgorockets wrote:2 WCF trips with Harden as the leader, where did Russ lead OKC? Exactly. He's a fraud in my opinion, maybe not your's, but you ain't changing my opinion and I don't give a **** about your's. Results speak for themselves, conversation over.

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Where did those WCF trips end up getting Harden? He's a massive choker that plays no defense and gets his points from flopping. I don't even know why you would be mad, Westbrook is a massive upgrade over Chris Paul and you basically just swapped contracts.
I'm sorry, please remind me, the conference finals come after the 1st round right? Yeah it didn't produce rings, so what? We ran into a dynasty both times. Should Utah have traded Stockton for Mark Jackson cause they kept making the finals and couldn't beat MJ? This dude couldn't beat Harden straight up, got waxed by the same Jazz team that Harden dispatched easily the next round, and got bounced by Dame this year. Spin how you want to, with some bull about not winning rings probably, but the facts don't lie. Harden had consistently taken his team to more success than Russell. Period. End. Of. Story. And now Harden is gonna have to drag his lame ass as far as he can for the next 4 years. Terrible deal, point blank period.

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Post#407 » by ratul » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

Westbrook and harden played together. They were good. I think it could work for Houston.
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Post#408 » by JN61 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

I like to reminder everyone; everyone were sceptical about Harden and Paul fit as well.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps 

Post#409 » by TMU » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
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djsunyc wrote:
Read on Twitter


presti capitalizing on desperation


Presti knows what he's doing.


Draft picks are great if you can actually find success with them. Of course that isn't easy just look at the Celtics. For all the draft picks they had they just have Brown and Tatum to show for it and a bunch of picks flushed down the toilet.


And he will get those 2-3 good players. He drafts pretty well. OKC will rebuild and rather well.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps 

Post#410 » by Snakebites » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Presti is going to deal off Chris Paul for more picks. Dude is stacking chips at this point.

Gotta figure the Rockets would have done this if they could have.
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Post#411 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

TMU wrote:Houston going full hero ball mode. This is going to be an epic high octane offense or a major chuckfest. :lol:

I give it to Morey though. The guy isn't afraid to stir **** up.


Should just play each guy 24 minutes a game...load management...maybe play each 32 but only 8 minutes together.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook traded to Houston for Chris Paul, 2024 & 2026 1st round picks, 2021/2025 pick swaps 

Post#412 » by baldur » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

ccie8030 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:OKC won this trade by a landslide. Now they just need to get picks and assets for Adams and unload a rebuild that would make Hinkie envious


funny how people praise Presti but Ainge gets crucified for doing the same thing in the past.

How do they compare to each other? This current OKC squad is a 5th seed team in the east while hinkie's team was getting 10 wins.
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Post#413 » by Benedict_Boozer » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:18 am

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teke184 wrote:Put the poll up so I can say both sides lose the trade.

Seriously. It's pretty rare you say a trade is definitively bad for both sides. But I don't know how else to describe this. However, Houston did rid themselves of CP3's albatross contract so that's something.


Amazing. That was my first reaction, I don’t like it for either team.

Morey is in the press chasing every star that becomes available, he can’t help himself I guess.


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Post#415 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:19 am

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Post#416 » by CoolD » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:20 am

ocelot17 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Effigy wrote:This trade is so bad for Houston, I wouldn’t have even done CP for Russ straight up. That’s a terrible fit with Harden.


My turn? Your turn?..... You go? I go?


It worked with harden and cp3 their first season and they won 65 games.

Paul is a much better shooter than Westbrook, so it was an easier fit for Houston . Harden will have to relinquish the ball to Westbrook too, Harden must have hated CP3 a ton, that he was willing to accept this.
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Post#417 » by mickie » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:20 am

ccie8030 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:OKC won this trade by a landslide. Now they just need to get picks and assets for Adams and unload a rebuild that would make Hinkie envious


funny how people praise Presti but Ainge gets crucified for doing the same thing in the past.


Ainge hoarded the pick, got greedy and karma bit his @$$. Hopefully Presti will do better
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Post#418 » by LipSkinMatter » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:20 am

ratul wrote:Westbrook and harden played together. They were good. I think it could work for Houston.


Is KD joining the Rockets? :wink:
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Post#419 » by Cheating2Win » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:20 am

ocelot17 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Effigy wrote:This trade is so bad for Houston, I wouldn’t have even done CP for Russ straight up. That’s a terrible fit with Harden.


My turn? Your turn?..... You go? I go?


It worked with harden and cp3 their first season and they won 65 games.


The situations couldn't be more different Chris Paul actually has a basketball brain and can adapt his game Westbrook can't .
If you were given an options of pairing any second star in the league with James harden and his game then Westbrook would be a runaway leader of worse possible option. Their games dont mesh well at all, this has disaster written all over it
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Post#420 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:20 am

From a pure value perspective Houston hit a home run, absolutely no question. The only thing in question is fit and that’s the coaches job to figure out. I commend Morey for making this move, he’s probably the only GM in the league that could trade that albatross of a contract.

Don’t get it at all for OKC, like I completely understood trading Westbrook so you could fully invest in your newly acquired PGOTF but this trade simply contradicts that. Not only did you trade for a worst contract which is 4 years older than WB, but you’re now hampering the development of your PGOTF for picks that more than likely will only result in low end rotation players.

Like I get the whole hoard picks and asset accumulation, but this will look like a poor mans version to what transpired in Boston minus Jayson Tatum.

And the absolute worst thing you could take from this trade is that Presti still feels extremely confident that he will have his job for the foreseeable future which is LOL.

Funny thing too is that OKC tried to justify to the fans that Paul George demanded a trade so they had to react quickly, okay cool. Then reports came out that they will look to trade WB for the inevitable rebuild, GREAT I’m following.

Then you trade for Chris Paul :lol:

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