WeekapaugGroove wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:Below average is fair considering how poor he played for some of those early games but I think he's been a little more impactful than his numbers would indicate. He's playing within the system and making quick decisions on o and keeps the ball moving all things that Monty wants out of the 4 spot. I think he could see a spike in his offense as teams start to respect baynes more from outside, teams could start cheating off him more to help.
Defensively I was higher on him than most before the season because he's smart and plays hard and that's really over half the battle with NBA defense. He's actually been better than I expected both from the eye test and defensive metrics. Sure he will have some freaks like AD who will give him trouble but you can say that about 80% of PFs.
Really if the suns do want to resign him then he's kind of having the perfect year for that since his counting stats won't wow anyone or likely get him some big offer but he has value. Now with that said I'm certainly not opposed to upgrading the PF spot over the next 9 months if opportunity arises.
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He's certainly been more impactful than the numbers suggest but I think I just had too high expectations and perhaps it's unfair to him. I expected he would be more than what he's shown us so far and that could still prove to be the case but thus far, he hasn't really done anything to interest me in terms of keeping him long term.
Maybe the fact that we have two high usage playmakers in Booker and Rubio meant that he hasn't been able to show off his playmaking as much and so he's relegated to a 3rd playmaker/scoring role which isn't really maximising the player he is. In a way, I almost think his playmaking could be further amplified if he played more with the bench squad that is lacking high level playmaking.
Yeah I agree his playmaking hasn't really been on display and I like the idea of him playing with that second unit more. Maybe a little more cam at the 4 with the starters.
Another reason his playmaking is down is he's pretty good passing from the high post but the suns really don't run much of anything in that part of the court.
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Offensively, Cam's shooting would make sense but I think we'll see a bit of a drop off on the defensive end and also in terms of passing even though Dario's passing hasn't really been on full display. The offense/defense balance we have in our current starting 5 would probably fall wayside. I think I see Cam with 4 of our starters as more of an all-offense line up rather than a starting line up. Like if we needed to put points up real quick or we needed to bring our offense back from stagnation for a 5min stretch, he would be in that line up with Rubio running the show and Book, Oubre, Cam and Baynes bombing away.
Ideally, my bench unit would then consist of TJ, Oubre, Cam, Dario, Kaminsky. That's 5 guys who can all shoot and 5 guys who can create either for themselves or for the team at an average level at the very least. Probably not the most athletic/defensive 5-man unit but there's a good bit height there lol.
Dario would really help TJ in the playmaking department because right now our bench unit is almost reliant on TJ to create for the team or Frank to create his own shot. Adding Oubre as a guy who can create for himself and Dario to help out with the playmaking would balance out the shot creation more.
Also just realised that Frank, Oubre and Booker were all drafted in 2015