Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 II: BIG as F

[Knightro]

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[pepe1991]

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Ok, gotcha, he would have to slot in at SF for golden state. Similar to the situation here.

I do think AG is much closer to an Iggy player type than you are giving him credit for, yet:) I think he will win even you over by the end of this year.

Really though, Curry is 30 plus, they have to strongly consider just letting Russell be Currys successor and keeping the franchise contending as Curry ages. A Robinson to Duncan transition attempt.

There are few decision/ directions where Warriors could go from now.
I think them trying to make Russell new Curry and face of a team is least likely one.

If Curry is not 100% healthy or something like that early in season they could shut him down and flat out pull Spurs- Robinson season and tank.

As for Igoudala, guy was best player on 40-42 team while averaging 20 points 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, being elite defender , and didn't make it to allstar game.
Instad of him making at least all nba defensive team, freaking Kobe and Jason Kidd made it, on nema value alone. Along with Raja Bell. All 3 of them, by today's advanced stats, had no impact on defense whatsoever. But , like in many times during early 00s, common sense, media bias and "pedigree" was only thing that mattered when it comes to NBA awards.

But going away from Philly ,especially going to Warrios, Igoudala turned his career into different direction, accepting smaller role, accepting himself as role player actually turned his career into something that looks to be HOF career.
3 Rings
1 NBA Finals MVP
1 all nba first defense
2 all nba second defense
1 allstar game
1 olympics gold
1 world cup gold

it's still laughable to me that Igoudala averaged over 18 ppg, 6 rpg and 5 ppg for 4 years and never was allstar, yet freaking Paul MIllsap averaged like 16 points, 8 rebound and was allstar 4 times
Or f***** Al Horford, who is easly the most overrated player of this era. 5 allstar games for center who can't even rebound at respectful rate. But can shoot 3s and pass. 0,5 threes a game for career ( made) along with 3,2 assists.

I’m with you. I love Iggy as a player and player type. Two way stud. All around winning basketball player. I really think he is a good comp for Gordon this year at the same age, though AG’s shooting has a chance to be much better. Get on board with me on this, AG is our Iggy this year.[/quote]

There was period of time when Iggy was by favorite nba player
I don't "hate" Gordon, i just don't view him as star/superstar/ whatever type player some people think he can or will be.
I would be more than happy if he turns out to be all around great player Iggy was in his prime. Has to improve decision making and playing with a ball a lot tho, Iggy was pretty damn great passer. He even had 6,3 apg season, that's more than half of modern PGs.

[NickAnderson]

I hated iggy when we played the 6ers in the 09 playoffs. Jacking up and making all those bull threes lol

[Viper1500]

I hated iggy when we played the 6ers in the 09 playoffs. Jacking up and making all those bull threes lol

I had zero hope of orlando making it to the finals during that series. Luckily we finished strong but had Hedo not made that step back 3 we could have very well lost in the first round.

[basketballRob]

It looks like the team select will have a lot of long defenders with Mitchell Robinson and Isaac. They'll be coached by Jeff Van Gundy and Steve Clifford. Wonder if they have a shot against the national team?

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[basketballRob]

Did they release the schedule yet?

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[sebaloz]

We need to nickname someone Baba Yaga (the boogeyman) from the movie John Wick.

Bamba Yaga!

[NavalAviator94]

During summer league, Hammond referred to AG as a PF. I think the only reason AG guarded some SF's over Isaac is because of strength.

I could be wrong here, but I remember Hammond saying the opposite.

When asked about Aminu, Hammond said he envisioned him backing up Gordon at the 3 and Isaac at the 4.

Now I do think Gordon’s natural position is PF, but Isaac and Aminu are also natural power forwards as well.

Somebody’s is going to have to play most of their minutes at the 3 this year and I think it’s going to be AG. He feels like the best choice of those three guys.

You're right. That's what I meant to say, that he referred to AG as a small forward. I thought it was something at the time because GM's usually don't like to label players with a position.

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I never heard that and when you view his minutes by position, 60% of them were at the PF position.


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[j-ragg]

I don’t think it matters what you call either position. But still don’t think their fit will ever be ideal on the offensive end together. Not that they aren’t useful. Maybe after a couple more off seasons the key will be having Isaac at center next to Gordon and a more perimeter oriented small forward.

[Knightro]

I never heard that and when you view his minutes by position, 60% of them were at the PF position.

This is accurate. Gordon played 40% of his minutes at SF and 60% of his minutes at PF.

Isaac played almost 100% of his minutes at PF.

But the Magic signed Aminu who has played 95%, 96% and 99% of his minutes at PF over the last three seasons respectively. It's not realistic to expect Aminu at age 29 to go back to SF outside of limited opportunities.

So it stands to reason Isaac/Aminu will man the PF slot which means Gordon will have to play most of his minutes at small forward.

[pepe1991]

One of your wings simply has to be able to play with ball without coach, fans and GM holding their breath every time your wing take a dribble.

I can't even recall last time that some team won championship without really,really,really good wing player.

Now, will you like to call that position SF, PF, wing, player or teletubbies it's irrelevant.

[basketballRob]

Plenty of videos from team USA practice today. I didn't see any of team select with Isaac and Clifford.

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[VFX]

One of your wings simply has to be able to play with ball without coach, fans and GM holding their breath every time your wing take a dribble.

I can't even recall last time that some team won championship without really,really,really good wing player.

Now, will you like to call that position SF, PF, wing, player or teletubbies it's irrelevant.

Yep.

It doesn’t matter what we want to label these players. Out of the 4 guys that are “forwards” you need to have one of them that can be a playmaker and facilitator without hesitation. It also helps if they all aren’t providing the same exact pros and cons to their games and emphasis on development.

The last aspect of this comes down to outside scoring. In today’s nba you cannot have 3-4/5 guys on the floor incapable of providing reliable floor spacing from outside. Entirely unacceptable. What’s crazy is I feel like this has been echoed for the last 3 or 4 seasons and hasn’t been addressed in the slightest.

[NavalAviator94]

I never heard that and when you view his minutes by position, 60% of them were at the PF position.

This is accurate. Gordon played 40% of his minutes at SF and 60% of his minutes at PF.

Isaac played almost 100% of his minutes at PF.

But the Magic signed Aminu who has played 95%, 96% and 99% of his minutes at PF over the last three seasons respectively. It's not realistic to expect Aminu at age 29 to go back to SF outside of limited opportunities.

So it stands to reason Isaac/Aminu will man the PF slot which means Gordon will have to play most of his minutes at small forward.

Interesting. I never really looked at JI’s positional stats. I just assumed he was getting the bulk of the difference from AG.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

Atlanta, why ATL Vince? Of all the places to have your final year...

[drsd]

Atlanta, why ATL Vince? Of all the places to have your final year...

Because they were willing to sign him.

There are two narratives for me.

1) I believe Carter is "desperate" to be the first NBA player to play in 4 different decades. Incredible in that is that, by today's NBA standards, he started his NBA career "late" at 22 years old.

2) I believe the Hawks is trying to make a playoff push and want the vet-leadership to get there. (I expect something like his Sac-stat line 5/1/3 in ~50 games played). His role is as a bench-coach type.


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[KillMonger]

should be seeing some JI footage from team usa soon

[pepe1991]

Did anybody noticed how on instagram and facebook almost all payed commercials are Lebron related? Guy's self promotes living crap out of himself since he is in LA ( and NBA finally got what was their wet dream, 2 best teams both in LA ).
Makes me sick.

[tiderulz]

Did anybody noticed how on instagram and facebook almost all payed commercials are Lebron related? Guy's self promotes living crap out of himself since he is in LA ( and NBA finally got what was their wet dream, 2 best teams both in LA ).
Makes me sick.

he self promoted long before he went to LA. more power to him. He is trying to make enough money to buy a team. wish i had that type of opportunity and options available. he is 34 and still put up big numbers.

[pepe1991]

Did anybody noticed how on instagram and facebook almost all payed commercials are Lebron related? Guy's self promotes living crap out of himself since he is in LA ( and NBA finally got what was their wet dream, 2 best teams both in LA ).
Makes me sick.

he self promoted long before he went to LA. more power to him. He is trying to make enough money to buy a team. wish i had that type of opportunity and options available. he is 34 and still put up big numbers.

That's true ,but so damn annoying , i litearlly today saw:
harlem shake - miami heat
Lebron's old video package of dunks
Lebron highschool mix

In addition, there was some AD hype videos and Lakers promo video.

i literally unliked every single basketball related thing from facebook, yet that MFer still pops up . I'm scared to go to bathroom, i might find his footage in toilet