BigRedDog wrote:Andre Roberstan wrote:BigRedDog wrote:Would you guys be interested in this deal?
Charlotte gets: Chris Paul(3/$124m), Steven Adams (2/$53m), Danilo Gallinari (1/$22.6m)
OKC gets: Nic Batum (2/$52m), Cody Zeller (2/$30m), Bismayck Biyombo (1/$17m), Marvin Williams (1/$15m) MKG (1/$13m), 1st round pick in 2020
Charlotte benefits: Becomes better team...
OKC benefits: First Round pick, Saves $2m in Year 1, Saves $26m in Year 2, Saves $44m in Year 3. Also improves their own draft pick this year.
Beyond that these are also some pretty useful contracts to try to flip in trades of your own. Marv is still a good defender/shooter and should be a trade deadline target for a contender or quasi-contender. Zeller perphaps could fetch something in a trade a year from now. The Biyombo/MKG deals are expiring this year and the Batum deal is a monster expiring next year.
That is not near enough compensation for that much bad money. And if you have to put "improves their draft pick" as a selling point, the value's usually not there.
I don't really see it that way ... The Hornets are the one taking on the money in this scenario...
Gallo is on a $22m expiring deal and He's still a very good player but he's aging and injury prone. A 2020 CHA mid 1st round pick (with potential to be a lot higher if CP3 gets hurt) is fair value for him... no one is giving up a lotto pick for Gallo on an expiring deal... some teams may be willing to give up a late 1st round pick for sure as he could help a contender...anyway... Gallinari $22.6m (expiring) for Biyombo $17m (expiring) + 2020 CHA First rRound pick is relatively fair, if not advantage OKC (if you are not going to try to compete this year).
Then there's Steven Adams 2/$53m deal that you're essentially trading for 2/$52m Nic Batum... obviously that's a big edge to Charlotte... no question. Batum's only value is as an expiring deal next year... he could be a low end playoff rotation piece but realistically he can't really help anyone.
So all that's left is... Chris Paul who was still a good player last year, albeit a far lesser one than in his prime... who realistically career could fall off a cliff at any minute.. would you rather have his deal (3/$124m) or would you rather have a still semi-useful and tradeable Cody Zeller for (2/$30m), a barely useful Michael Kidd Gilchrist (1/$13, expiring), and a still useful and clearly tradeable Marvin Williams (1/$15m)?
You'd be able to get something for Marvin most likely... prob a 2nd rounder... or perhaps a late 1st rounder if youre willing to eat a little 2020 salary....the same perhaps with zeller a year from now (maybe) when he's expiring... and possibly for MKG this year (but i doubt it).
And get out from under an albatross deal while you're absolutely loaded with draft picks and in good shape to rebuild.
THere's really no point in Charlotte trying to rebuild IMO because they dont have enough assets. They're prob better off swapping their expirings for guys and trying to shoot for 45 wins.
Honestly, that trade is probably about as fair as it gets for both sides. Charlotte fans don't want that deal either. They prefer to rebuild. CP3 won't be easy to move if his play declines, and nearly impossible to move if he gets injured again. You guys are in much better shape to rebuild than we are, why not just commit to it?
I posted i thought you guys were going to be much better than most think this year and people here seemed lukewarm about wanting to win games lol..
Honestly I'd rather still have CP3/Adams/Gallo than what's coming back. The point is fair re: Thunder being better than we hope, but I think they can do better dealing each one individually than dumping all of them and getting literally every non-rookie/min Charlotte contract back.
Not that I think there's no deal to be done between the two teams, but I think any deal is going to be smaller.
