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Around the Offseason, Take 2

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#601 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:00 pm

KnicksGod wrote:The Lakers are seriously interested in Dwight Howard, as in “Seriously?!” This is all about appeasing AD who says he doesn’t want to play center. NBA is a bunch of babies really. It’d be so nice if we could develop a good team without babies.


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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#602 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:45 pm

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Dolan's court responsibility is to hire people who aren't idiots. He hasn't done that. Therefore, as a basketball team owner in a results-based business, he sucks immense out of ass.

No amount of times of you telling me he's a billionaire CEO and the Forbes list is going to change that.

I don't watch sports to look at how the stock prices are. And I'm sure the stock brokers aren't watching stocks to figure out sports victories and defeats. Stick to basketball. I'm not here to discuss how Radio City and the Forum are doing.


You just said Dolan has not hired anyone who is not an idiot.

Thus, according to you, Scott Perry is an idiot.

Therefore, you are an idiot.


Let’s win some games and see how those draft picks pan out before you start putting Scott Perry in Jerry West territory. Steve Mills is still his boss, anyway. Unless you forgot.

But stick to name calling. It suits you well.


All you do is name calling.

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#603 » by G_K_F » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:07 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
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You just said Dolan has not hired anyone who is not an idiot.

Thus, according to you, Scott Perry is an idiot.

Therefore, you are an idiot.


Let’s win some games and see how those draft picks pan out before you start putting Scott Perry in Jerry West territory. Steve Mills is still his boss, anyway. Unless you forgot.

But stick to name calling. It suits you well.


All you do is name calling.

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Huh? Since when? You got offended that I called James Dolan an idiot? Sorry to hear. Later dude.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#605 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:14 pm

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Huh? Since when? You got offended that I called James Dolan an idiot? Sorry to hear. Later dude.


It appears you can't even keep track of your own diatribes.

You said:

"Dolan's court responsibility is to hire people who aren't idiots. He hasn't done that."

THAT'S A QUOTE

You show up lately and all you do is piss all over the board with hateful rants and now you act offended when the quoted text is thrown back at you.

You said everyone Dolan has hired is an idiot. That is beyond stupid. Keep saying stupid things if you want, but be prepared to deal with others who see your rants for the childish rubbish that they are.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#606 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:19 pm

It's official.

I've withdrawn from the U.S. team
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#607 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:18 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
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Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Dolan's court responsibility is to hire people who aren't idiots. He hasn't done that. Therefore, as a basketball team owner in a results-based business, he sucks immense out of ass.

No amount of times of you telling me he's a billionaire CEO and the Forbes list is going to change that.

I don't watch sports to look at how the stock prices are. And I'm sure the stock brokers aren't watching stocks to figure out sports victories and defeats. Stick to basketball. I'm not here to discuss how Radio City and the Forum are doing.

Then if you want to stick to basketball, then stick to the guys actually running the basketball operations.


Right........and who hired these people? They just appeared out of thin air?

The only one hired by Dolan is Mills. Perry wasn't, neither is Fiz. They are the ones making the basketball decisions. So if you want to talk basketball, which is obvious you don't, you would only talk about those people.

But I detect something else. Do you.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#608 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:31 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Then if you want to stick to basketball, then stick to the guys actually running the basketball operations.


Right........and who hired these people? They just appeared out of thin air?

The only one hired by Dolan is Mills. Perry wasn't, neither is Fiz. They are the ones making the basketball decisions. So if you want to talk basketball, which is obvious you don't, you would only talk about those people.

But I detect something else. Do you.


do you really think Dolan has no say in anyone we hire? You really think Perry and Fiz “weren’t hired by Dolan”? He owns the team.

Yes, and neither were Isiah, Layden, Phil, Herb, Grunwald, Woodson, Larry Brown, Hornacek, etc. i blame the media and the fans. Both of them with their fake news. I feel it wasn’t for them the Knicks would be doing great things.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#609 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:33 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Huh? Since when? You got offended that I called James Dolan an idiot? Sorry to hear. Later dude.


It appears you can't even keep track of your own diatribes.

You said:

"Dolan's court responsibility is to hire people who aren't idiots. He hasn't done that."

THAT'S A QUOTE

You show up lately and all you do is piss all over the board with hateful rants and now you act offended when the quoted text is thrown back at you.

You said everyone Dolan has hired is an idiot. That is beyond stupid. Keep saying stupid things if you want, but be prepared to deal with others who see your rants for the childish rubbish that they are.


You’re right, brother. The Knicks have made many genius hirings over the last 2 decades. I’m ready for you to give me a list of them so we can celebrate Dolan’s brilliance.

Let’s do it.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#610 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:52 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Right........and who hired these people? They just appeared out of thin air?

The only one hired by Dolan is Mills. Perry wasn't, neither is Fiz. They are the ones making the basketball decisions. So if you want to talk basketball, which is obvious you don't, you would only talk about those people.

But I detect something else. Do you.


do you really think Dolan has no say in anyone we hire? You really think Perry and Fiz “weren’t hired by Dolan”? He owns the team.

Yes, and neither were Isiah, Layden, Phil, Herb, Grunwald, Woodson, Larry Brown, Hornacek, etc. i blame the media and the fans. Both of them with their fake news. I feel it wasn’t for them the Knicks would be doing great things.
Dolan isn't involved. And no, he didn't hire Perry and Fiz. I guess Dolan drafted RJ too...lol
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#611 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:54 am

The irony is all those guys you named were really good basketball people before the Knicks, maybe they were idiots to come to the Knicks
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#612 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:01 am

Thugger HBC wrote:The irony is all those guys you named were really good basketball people before the Knicks, maybe they were idiots to come to the Knicks


Nah, he hired Perry and Fiz. Just like he hired Mills. I’m actually giving him credit for hiring them - I’m not saying that as a negative. It appears though that the prism of which this forum works is that everything you say must be positive and even a hint of negative means you’re making ‘hateful rants’.

As for smart basketball people. That’s debatable. Walsh and Layden, yes. Grunwald, no. I guess it shows what happens when you surround decent basketball minds with garbage personnel and a dumb owner who makes impulsive decisions.

Isiah was failure in every venture after his playing days before joining the Knicks, however. And he happened to be the biggest failure of all with the Knicks - and held the job longest. Go figure!

And yes, If you hire someone who makes bad decisions you should also get blamed for their bad decisions. That’s how life works. That’s the way the world turns.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#613 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:07 am

All those guys were good before coming here theres no debate for that.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#614 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:11 am

Thugger HBC wrote:All those guys were good before coming here theres no debate for that.


:lol:

No they weren't.

Nobody was clamoring to hire Isiah and Grunwald to run their team.

Listen dude, I'd love to go back with you and argue revisionist history but I don't have the patience to do so. It's not going to solve anything and you've made the same post thousands of times on Dolan/Knicks so nothing will change in that regard.

Let's go back to our regularly scheduled program.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#615 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:14 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:All those guys were good before coming here theres no debate for that.


:lol:

No they weren't.

Nobody was clamoring to hire Isiah and Grunwald to run their team.

Listen dude, I'd love to go back with you and argue revisionist history but I don't have the patience to do so. It's not going to solve anything and you've made the same post thousands of times on Dolan/Knicks so nothing will change in that regard.

Let's go back to our regularly scheduled program.

Think why you are the one who keeps bringing it up?

Talk actual current basketball.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#616 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:17 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:All those guys were good before coming here theres no debate for that.


:lol:

No they weren't.

Nobody was clamoring to hire Isiah and Grunwald to run their team.

Listen dude, I'd love to go back with you and argue revisionist history but I don't have the patience to do so. It's not going to solve anything and you've made the same post thousands of times on Dolan/Knicks so nothing will change in that regard.

Let's go back to our regularly scheduled program.

Think why you are the one who keeps bringing it up?

Talk actual current basketball.


I'll keep saying my piece - aka the facts - whenever I see trash like people blaming the media for the Knicks struggles or Dolan being disliked.

You don't have to reply to it if you don't like it.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#617 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:28 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
:lol:

No they weren't.

Nobody was clamoring to hire Isiah and Grunwald to run their team.

Listen dude, I'd love to go back with you and argue revisionist history but I don't have the patience to do so. It's not going to solve anything and you've made the same post thousands of times on Dolan/Knicks so nothing will change in that regard.

Let's go back to our regularly scheduled program.

Think why you are the one who keeps bringing it up?

Talk actual current basketball.


I'll keep saying my piece - aka the facts - whenever I see trash like people blaming the media for the Knicks struggles or Dolan being disliked.

You don't have to reply to it if you don't like it.

I can do more if I don't like reading it. Who cares about the media? You watch the games to support the media?

You claim to want to talk basketball, but cant seem to do so. Do what you claim.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#618 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:38 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Think why you are the one who keeps bringing it up?

Talk actual current basketball.


I'll keep saying my piece - aka the facts - whenever I see trash like people blaming the media for the Knicks struggles or Dolan being disliked.

You don't have to reply to it if you don't like it.

I can do more if I don't like reading it. Who cares about the media? You watch the games to support the media?

You claim to want to talk basketball, but cant seem to do so. Do what you claim.


I didn't start a discussion about the media being at fault for the Knicks/Dolan struggles based on a Kevin Knox video. Someone else did. You probably should talk to them about that.

Thanks man.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#619 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:44 am

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
I'll keep saying my piece - aka the facts - whenever I see trash like people blaming the media for the Knicks struggles or Dolan being disliked.

You don't have to reply to it if you don't like it.

I can do more if I don't like reading it. Who cares about the media? You watch the games to support the media?

You claim to want to talk basketball, but cant seem to do so. Do what you claim.


I didn't start a discussion about the media being at fault for the Knicks/Dolan struggles based on a Kevin Knox video. Someone else did. You probably should talk to them about that.

Thanks man.

You claim to want to talk about basketball. do what you claim.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#620 » by G_K_F » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:48 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I can do more if I don't like reading it. Who cares about the media? You watch the games to support the media?

You claim to want to talk basketball, but cant seem to do so. Do what you claim.


I didn't start a discussion about the media being at fault for the Knicks/Dolan struggles based on a Kevin Knox video. Someone else did. You probably should talk to them about that.

Thanks man.

You claim to want to talk about basketball. do what you claim.


I've been talking basketball. I always talk basketball. Dolan is part of the basketball discussion since his decisions affect the product you see on the court.

The issue is you don't like what I have to say. That's fair. I still stand by it and I have a right to express my opinion. Someone mentioned the media and the Knicks/Dolan. I didn't bring it up out of nowhere. I gave my piece on that. You don't agree with it. That doesn't mean I'm trolling or making 'hateful rants'. Nothing I've said is hateful. I support the Knicks - not Dolan. And I support the current crop of young players and the head coach.

I'll leave it at that.
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