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Post#861 » by samwana » Thu Aug 1, 2019 7:22 am

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Post#864 » by bearadonisdna » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:56 am

Melo apparently transcends the role available.
If teams are serious about trying to compete he would be on another persons roster.

So it’s looking like he has been blackballed. Getting the AI treatment, his last video was impressive.
Even though AI gets the blackballed narrative sometimes, he got a 2nd chance and had some down years as a rotational player.

Basketball he can garner enough hype to get somebody to believe in him, if it was the nfl, after the caepernick thing, it would be a done deal, and hard to say being ready would give him another chance.

Melos problem imo was he had a visible loss of skill. To counter this I think he would have to essentialize his game and excel at the few most necessary skills. Also utilize his physical strengths like many players before him finally turn into forwards or centers as they decline.

His last video with nets was impressive. Of course I think he could help the bulls. It’s subjective cons that are keeping him from the roster not his objective ability.
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Post#865 » by kulaz3000 » Mon Sep 9, 2019 6:52 am

It's not that he isn't more talented than a lot of the role players around, he just hasn't shown the ability to play that specific role. If anything, that segement with Skip probably made Melo's case worse, because he kept harping on about having not learned how to play a smaller role, needed to be guided etc. Who has time for that for a role player? It's easier for teams to just sign the role player, who knows how to play a role, accepts it and not need extra attention to do so.
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Post#866 » by Ayman78 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:28 am

I'd like to see the Bulls sign Nik Stauskas. He'd be a nice floor spacer for the second unit. I don't know how difficult it would be to pry him loose from his European team. Plus his price tag shouldn't be too expensive maybe around 4-6 million per year.
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Post#867 » by Indomitable » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Ayman78 wrote:I'd like to see the Bulls sign Nik Stauskas. He'd be a nice floor spacer for the second unit. I don't know how difficult it would be to pry him loose from his European team. Plus his price tag shouldn't be too expensive maybe around 4-6 million per year.

Why?
He is a marginal one dimensional talent.
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Post#868 » by Ayman78 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:53 am

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Ayman78 wrote:I'd like to see the Bulls sign Nik Stauskas. He'd be a nice floor spacer for the second unit. I don't know how difficult it would be to pry him loose from his European team. Plus his price tag shouldn't be too expensive maybe around 4-6 million per year.

Why?
He is a marginal one dimensional talent.

He's a better team defender than general perception. Also that one dimension is a pivotal role in the modern NBA. Having a second unit of Coby, Denzel, Nik, Thad, and Luke gives that unit an instant identity, of legitimate threats from three point range. The more shooting you can get on this team the better they will be.
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Post#869 » by sco » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:48 pm

Ayman78 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:I'd like to see the Bulls sign Nik Stauskas. He'd be a nice floor spacer for the second unit. I don't know how difficult it would be to pry him loose from his European team. Plus his price tag shouldn't be too expensive maybe around 4-6 million per year.

Why?
He is a marginal one dimensional talent.

He's a better team defender than general perception. Also that one dimension is a pivotal role in the modern NBA. Having a second unit of Coby, Denzel, Nik, Thad, and Luke gives that unit an instant identity, of legitimate threats from three point range. The more shooting you can get on this team the better they will be.

I prefer him to Dunn on the roster. I worry that the Bulls take away minutes from White (development) and Arci (earned) to spotlight Dunn for a trade. This strategy rarely (if ever) works and has opportunity cost.
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Post#870 » by Showtime23 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:19 pm

Indomitable wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:I'd like to see the Bulls sign Nik Stauskas. He'd be a nice floor spacer for the second unit. I don't know how difficult it would be to pry him loose from his European team. Plus his price tag shouldn't be too expensive maybe around 4-6 million per year.

Why?
He is a marginal one dimensional talent.


For vet min, no brainer. Your asking literally MLE performance for 2mil guy which is absurd.
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Post#871 » by mack2354 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:51 am

Iman Shumpert anyone? Slightly small for the Small Forward position at 6'5 but he's a gym rat like Lavine and has good enough defensive fundamentals to guard the 3. Valentine might be damaged goods and having Shumpert competing with C. Hutch for the back-up SF spot rather than just handing the job to C.Hutch is good. I'd cut Dunn and bring in Shumpert to add more depth at the wing.
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Post#872 » by kulaz3000 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:53 am

mack2354 wrote:Iman Shumpert anyone? Slightly small for the Small Forward position at 6'5 but he's a gym rat like Lavine and has good enough defensive fundamentals to guard the 3. Valentine might be damaged goods and having Shumpert competing with C. Hutch for the back-up SF spot rather than just handing the job to C.Hutch is good. I'd cut Dunn and bring in Shumpert to add more depth at the wing.


No thanks. He seems to have a reputation of being a little difficult. I'd prefer to take my chances on Hutchinson and Valentine over Shumpert as he is rather one-dimensional.
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Post#873 » by sco » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:11 pm

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mack2354 wrote:Iman Shumpert anyone? Slightly small for the Small Forward position at 6'5 but he's a gym rat like Lavine and has good enough defensive fundamentals to guard the 3. Valentine might be damaged goods and having Shumpert competing with C. Hutch for the back-up SF spot rather than just handing the job to C.Hutch is good. I'd cut Dunn and bring in Shumpert to add more depth at the wing.


No thanks. He seems to have a reputation of being a little difficult. I'd prefer to take my chances on Hutchinson and Valentine over Shumpert as he is rather one-dimensional.

I think the FO has worked extremely hard to bring in guys who are high character guys (and guys who will not give Kingpin much crap). You're right, I think Shump isn't that type of guy.
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Post#874 » by problymchyld04 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:57 am

Shump was hella nice last year on an uptempo squad like the Kings last year before he went to the Rockets. If the Bulls play uptempo like the Kings, then it couldn't hurt having him on that 2nd unit + everybody knows that Hutchinson and Valentine are both heavily injury prone, so in their case, you need a ton of bodies at the 3

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Post#875 » by Showtime23 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:45 am

problymchyld04 wrote:Shump was hella nice last year on an uptempo squad like the Kings last year before he went to the Rockets. If the Bulls play uptempo like the Kings, then it couldn't hurt having him on that 2nd unit + everybody knows that Hutchinson and Valentine are both heavily injury prone, so in their case, you need a ton of bodies at the 3

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Does Hutch even have trade value?
I just wish he gets traded for #30 or a pair of two very high srps so FO can draft real talent.
The Bulls got baited when they took Blazers' guy. Instead they should have let them take their guy and draft the Blazer prospect.
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Post#876 » by Indomitable » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:05 pm

Showtime23 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
Ayman78 wrote:I'd like to see the Bulls sign Nik Stauskas. He'd be a nice floor spacer for the second unit. I don't know how difficult it would be to pry him loose from his European team. Plus his price tag shouldn't be too expensive maybe around 4-6 million per year.

Why?
He is a marginal one dimensional talent.


For vet min, no brainer. Your asking literally MLE performance for 2mil guy which is absurd.

It serves no purpose. The Bulls have plenty of shooting. Get me another 6'8 wing who can move.
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Post#877 » by rtblues » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:33 am

Showtime23 wrote:
problymchyld04 wrote:Shump was hella nice last year on an uptempo squad like the Kings last year before he went to the Rockets. If the Bulls play uptempo like the Kings, then it couldn't hurt having him on that 2nd unit + everybody knows that Hutchinson and Valentine are both heavily injury prone, so in their case, you need a ton of bodies at the 3

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Does Hutch even have trade value?
I just wish he gets traded for #30 or a pair of two very high srps so FO can draft real talent.
The Bulls got baited when they took Blazers' guy. Instead they should have let them take their guy and draft the Blazer prospect.

Yeah, if there was only like 1 good player picked after him that all the other teams passed on, okay, that happens every year.
But in that 2018 draft there were several other options who wound up being selected after Hutch. And yeah, I know of course that hindsight is 20-20, but the aggravating part to me was making "the promise" to him when they did. Didn't make sense then and in retrospect now. Here's a few guys from that draft selected after Hutch:
Landry Shamet; Robert Williams; Jalen Brunson; Mitchell Robinson; Rodions Kurucs; Justin Jackson; Hamidou Diallo

From the start I thought he was a big fish in a small pond, as his college team barely played anyone worth mentioning.
So he was essentially feeding off scrubs. Only Jon Morant types get a pass for that, as he was clearly a specimen regardless of the competition he was facing, which he proved in the NCAA tournament against better competition. So, in the end, I mainly ask what was it that pointed them so strongly to this player, and why was the stupid F-ing promise made when it was made, which seems way to early to make that commitment.
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Post#878 » by sco » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:26 pm

https://sportando.basketball/en/antonio-blakeney-agreed-to-terms-with-jiangsu/

Also, per rotoworld:

Joakim Noah will join the Clippers for workouts this week.
He had an individual workout with the Lakers in August before they signed Dwight Howard. Noah had a strong finish to the 2018-19 season with Memphis and still has plenty of gas left in the tank, so he would be a solid addition as a third-string center behind Ivica Zubac and Montrezl Harrell.
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Post#879 » by bearadonisdna » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:12 pm

sco wrote:https://sportando.basketball/en/antonio-blakeney-agreed-to-terms-with-jiangsu/

Also, per rotoworld:

Joakim Noah will join the Clippers for workouts this week.
He had an individual workout with the Lakers in August before they signed Dwight Howard. Noah had a strong finish to the 2018-19 season with Memphis and still has plenty of gas left in the tank, so he would be a solid addition as a third-string center behind Ivica Zubac and Montrezl Harrell.


How many bigs is joakim better than on the bulls?
Felicio, kornet, Gafford come to mind.
Sure gafford and kornet are likeable and have potential but when available guys are arguably better than what you have then it’s kind of frustrating.
A guy like Melo is probably being blackballed but look at hutch, valentine and it’s easy who I’d rather get minutes for a competitive team.
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Post#880 » by sco » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:02 am

bearadonisdna wrote:
sco wrote:https://sportando.basketball/en/antonio-blakeney-agreed-to-terms-with-jiangsu/

Also, per rotoworld:

Joakim Noah will join the Clippers for workouts this week.
He had an individual workout with the Lakers in August before they signed Dwight Howard. Noah had a strong finish to the 2018-19 season with Memphis and still has plenty of gas left in the tank, so he would be a solid addition as a third-string center behind Ivica Zubac and Montrezl Harrell.


How many bigs is joakim better than on the bulls?
Felicio, kornet, Gafford come to mind.
Sure gafford and kornet are likeable and have potential but when available guys are arguably better than what you have then it’s kind of frustrating.
A guy like Melo is probably being blackballed but look at hutch, valentine and it’s easy who I’d rather get minutes for a competitive team.


Yeah, I think the FO mantra is find the best players who won't be the slightest problem to coach and will serve as role models for young guys. Jo and Melo would be talent upgrades, but definitely not guys that you want as role models or think would mesh well with Kingpin. To be fair, I think that given how many divas there are in the NBA, I'd like to see a "boy scout" team be successful. Chemistry does matter. Of course, winning builds chemistry too.
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