Shams: Heat interested in Chris Paul

Post #1 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:33 pm

From the Athletic article today-

The Heat have a level of interest in Oklahoma City’s Chris Paul entering the NBA season, league sources said. Paul had shared a strong mutual interest in ending up in Miami after his trade to the Thunder — but the sides could not agree to a deal and now OKC is prepared for Paul to enter training camp as a veteran star and leader. Paul has three years and $124 million left on his deal. Miami will likely elect to see how it starts the season before gauging a new pursuit of Paul, which would take several large contracts to match salary.

Mikistan · Post #2 » by **Mikistan** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:48 pm

The Heat have a level of interest
That level of interest could be between 0 and some positive number.

Tor_Raps · Post #3 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:50 pm

I swear i feel like I read this about a month ago...

the_process · Post #4 » by **the_process** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:51 pm

And as before, the question remains how many 1sts the Thunder are prepared to add to CP3 to dump him.

KqWIN · Post #5 » by **KqWIN** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:51 pm

I could see it happening. Riley doesn't seem to care much about the distant future. CP3 would firmly put them in the playoffs and make them a little dangerous in the playoffs.

Gooner · Post #6 » by **Gooner** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:52 pm

Riley is getting desperate.

mademan · Post #7 » by **mademan** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:53 pm

the_process wrote:And as before, the question remains how many 1sts the Thunder are prepared to add to CP3 to dump him.

That number is exactly 0. I think OKC is completely prepared to play with Paul this season if nobody wants to take him off their hands

clyde21 · Post #8 » by **clyde21** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:56 pm

Gooner wrote:Riley is getting desperate.

well, aside from the top 3 teams (Phily, Milly, Boston) the East is wide open, getting Paul means the Heat are probably the 4th best team in that conference. if they can get a top 4 seed who knows what can happen.

LofJ · Post #9 » by **LofJ** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:57 pm

the_process wrote:And as before, the question remains how many 1sts the Thunder are prepared to add to CP3 to dump him.

I imagine a big reason why the Heat are interested in dealing for Paul is the possibility of getting one of their picks back. The Thunder own their 2021 and 2023 1st round picks. If I were the Heat I'd hold out until OKC is willing to attach their 2023 pick.

NBAFan93 · Post #10 » by **NBAFan93** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:58 pm

I think a good compromise would be for CP3 to opt out of that final year of his contract and then the teams can make some type of even trade. If CP3 ever wants to go to a team where he can compete again, he’ll probably need to do that anyway. Would it be against the rules for him to agree to opt out and then officially agree to a lower amount for that final year, or no? Would he just have to opt out and trust them? I’m pretty sure I read that he can officially opt out now - doesn’t need to wait till years from now.

mademan · Post #11 » by **mademan** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:00 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Gooner wrote:Riley is getting desperate.

well, aside from the top 3 teams (Phily, Milly, Boston) the East is wide open, getting Paul means the Heat are probably the 4th best team in that conference. if they can get a top 4 seed who knows what can happen.

I'd say aside from the top 2 teams. And with Embiid's injury history (i know Paul aint exactly an ironman), you never know. Bucks lack real top end talent besides Giannis; getting Paul gives you a shot. Not a great shot, but some small chance

Gooner · Post #12 » by **Gooner** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:01 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Gooner wrote:Riley is getting desperate.

well, aside from the top 3 teams (Phily, Milly, Boston) the East is wide open, getting Paul means the Heat are probably the 4th best team in that conference. if they can get a top 4 seed who knows what can happen.

I would rather wait for better trade opportunities, or for free agency, where Miami will have an advantage over most of the other teams. Chris Paul contract is terrible, and he isn't good enough to make them a contender, even in the east.

Mamba Mentality · Post #13 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:02 pm

Goran, Waiters, Johnson and some picks for Paul? I feel gross just typing that up...

mademan · Post #14 » by **mademan** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:03 pm

LofJ wrote:
the_process wrote:And as before, the question remains how many 1sts the Thunder are prepared to add to CP3 to dump him.

I imagine a big reason why the Heat are interested in dealing for Paul is the possibility of getting one of their picks back. The Thunder own their 2021 and 2023 1st round picks. If I were the Heat I'd hold out until OKC is willing to attach their 2023 pick.

That 2021 pick is unprotected; i cant see the Thunder giving it up. The 2023 pick is lotto protected, iirc. Even then, giving any assets to move Paul would be odd from the Thunder. Theyre not in the tax, paying him doesnt hurt their bottom line and he's not a cancer. He's a well respected leader in the league.

Hardaway2step · Post #15 » by **Hardaway2step** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:10 pm

Who is Chirs Paul ?

DreamTeam09 · Post #16 » by **DreamTeam09** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:11 pm

Miami has enough bad contracts that they could move to get this done and would leave them in a better place then they are now in. Ino it's the 3rd yr of the deal that is the sticking point because they wanna be players in FA in 2yrs time, but what's the cap hold of Paul + Butler + Bam + Herro ?? Won't they still have space to go pick up someone in FA with just those guys under contract ??

BadWolf · Post #17 » by **BadWolf** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:11 pm

LofJ wrote:
the_process wrote:And as before, the question remains how many 1sts the Thunder are prepared to add to CP3 to dump him.

I imagine a big reason why the Heat are interested in dealing for Paul is the possibility of getting one of their picks back. The Thunder own their 2021 and 2023 1st round picks. If I were the Heat I'd hold out until OKC is willing to attach their 2023 pick.

This reads more like 'Heat blinked first" then 'Thunder are desperate and will add picks'.

Mister Ze · Post #18 » by **Mister Ze** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:16 pm

Don’t do it Pat, stay Pat

AirP. · Post #19 » by **AirP.** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:19 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Gooner wrote:Riley is getting desperate.

well, aside from the top 3 teams (Phily, Milly, Boston) the East is wide open, getting Paul means the Heat are probably the 4th best team in that conference. if they can get a top 4 seed who knows what can happen.

Zach Lowe just said he's flirting with predicting (with the current roster) Miami as the #3 seed from Howard Beck's podcast yesterday(The First 48). He's still leaning Celtics as the #3 but says he likes Miami and is inching towards predicting them 3rd.

On CP3, I think he'd make Miami better by running the offense and understanding Butler's the #1 option, the question is the value of CP3 vs his contract, CP3s still really good but his contract isn't and it's quite restrictive for the future.

clyde21 · Post #20 » by **clyde21** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:20 pm

Gooner wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Gooner wrote:Riley is getting desperate.

well, aside from the top 3 teams (Phily, Milly, Boston) the East is wide open, getting Paul means the Heat are probably the 4th best team in that conference. if they can get a top 4 seed who knows what can happen.

I would rather wait for better trade opportunities, or for free agency, where Miami will have an advantage over most of the other teams. Chris Paul contract is terrible, and he isn't good enough to make them a contender, even in the east.

wait for FA as in waste this year? and Miami is maxed out so they can't sign anyone in FA. and they don't have to give up much for Paul other than match salary.