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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1141 » by migya » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:45 pm

The current Big Board draft is good but not active in that it just takes making a list for each round and waiting. How about having another draft going on as well?

Thought doing a choose one season post merger and pick players from that season only?
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Post#1142 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:07 am

migya wrote:The current Big Board draft is good but not active in that it just takes making a list for each round and waiting. How about having another draft going on as well?

Thought doing a choose one season post merger and pick players from that season only?

I think the problem would come when both games are ready for playoffs. The board would be really cluttered and the voting would probably drag even more than usual.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1143 » by goober » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:32 pm

I think an auction might be fitting as the next game
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Post#1144 » by 8on » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:05 am

The Blacklist - Same as the Big Board, but if two drafters want the same player with the same pick, the player is blacklisted for the rest of the round and for the rest of the game. Ex: Let's say two drafters wanted Kevin Garnett with the first pick in the first round. Both drafters would move on to their second choice, and anyone who would have been awarded Garnett uncontested moves on to their next choice. In other words, uncontested awards only. Limit one MVP.
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Post#1145 » by goober » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:50 am

8on wrote:The Blacklist - Same as the Big Board, but if two drafters want the same player with the same pick, the player is blacklisted for the rest of the round and for the rest of the game. Ex: Let's say two drafters wanted Kevin Garnett with the first pick in the first round. Both drafters would move on to their second choice, and anyone who would have been awarded Garnett uncontested moves on to their next choice. In other words, uncontested awards only. Limit one MVP.

I feel like this could get messy, what happens with the 5th pick 2 people want the same player? That guy is blacklisted even though he’s a scrub ? Same with every other position in the big board I imagine
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Post#1146 » by 8on » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:30 am

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8on wrote:The Blacklist - Same as the Big Board, but if two drafters want the same player with the same pick, the player is blacklisted for the rest of the round and for the rest of the game. Ex: Let's say two drafters wanted Kevin Garnett with the first pick in the first round. Both drafters would move on to their second choice, and anyone who would have been awarded Garnett uncontested moves on to their next choice. In other words, uncontested awards only. Limit one MVP.

I feel like this could get messy, what happens with the 5th pick 2 people want the same player? That guy is blacklisted even though he’s a scrub ? Same with every other position in the big board I imagine


Yes. If there’s a player you really want, you’d have to pick him higher than you think he would go, not unlike a regular draft. You might even get boxed out on a reach. To reach or to pick BPA; that is the question.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1147 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:00 am

Maybe MVPs get blacklisted from the pool permanently if there's a repeat, but non MVPs are put back in the pool the next round
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Post#1148 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:06 am

Goober wrote:I think an auction might be fitting as the next game


We had trouble in the past getting enough people since it requires them to be there at a certain time, but the big board concept could help

Say you're given the option to make 16 bids per round. It's the same as the current big board concept except you put a money tag on each player up to $100 or whatever. If both players bid the same amount it is randomized.
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Post#1149 » by Jon_3232 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:21 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
Goober wrote:I think an auction might be fitting as the next game


We had trouble in the past getting enough people since it requires them to be there at a certain time, but the big board concept could help

Say you're given the option to make 16 bids per round. It's the same as the current big board concept except you put a money tag on each player up to $100 or whatever. If both players bid the same amount it is randomized.


You’d have to be given a limit of like $500 or else ppl would bid $100 on everyone. It could be done with fga ? Someone bids 30 fga on Jordan, now they only have 55 fga left for bidding
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Post#1150 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:06 pm

I still think auction drafts should have minimum bids for certain categories of player. It gets silly when you can land an All-NBA level guy for $1 because he happened to be left unclaimed.
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Post#1151 » by Laimbeer » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:13 pm

I like Doc's idea, but I think restricting the pool heavily, to say 2019 season, works best. The idea of an auction is bidding on scarcity. To Fade's point, you won't see good players going for next to nothing. We'll have familiarity and bring guys into play who normally aren't.

You put 1/8 of the players out for bid each day. Players not bid on roll to the next day with the next 1/8 batch.

They did this on the Knicks board and it worked well.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1152 » by 8on » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:20 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Maybe MVPs get blacklisted from the pool permanently if there's a repeat, but non MVPs are put back in the pool the next round


If you make the list you need, I don't think that will be necessary. I'd be really interested to see a gradually declining talent pool. I'm quite sure there are more than 80 appropriate starters since 1990. Or we can start in 1976.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1153 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:54 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:What about only being able to use either one of the first or last four seasons of a player's career? (The "last four" option wouldn't be available for current players.)

Any interest in this idea? It would be a fresh twist on the way a lot of players are valued.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1154 » by 8on » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:41 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:What about only being able to use either one of the first or last four seasons of a player's career? (The "last four" option wouldn't be available for current players.)

Any interest in this idea? It would be a fresh twist on the way a lot of players are valued.


I’d be down.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1155 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Oct 3, 2019 1:56 pm

Anybody interested in revisiting the games we did a couple years ago where everyone picks from the same one or two divisions?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1156 » by migya » Fri Oct 4, 2019 3:15 pm

How about a 1st round of playoffs season draft. Can only pick players in chosen season where their teams lost in the 1st round of playoffs. So Jordan is only eligible in 1986.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1157 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Oct 5, 2019 9:27 pm

Along the lines of the division games, we could also do an East Coast-West Coast draft where only teams from states on each coast are eligible.
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1158 » by ardee » Mon Oct 7, 2019 1:18 pm

How about a pairs draft next?

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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1159 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Oct 8, 2019 3:20 am

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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1160 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Oct 8, 2019 3:46 pm

I have a few ideas, but with some players like Laimbeer and Snell seemingly away, it may be a good time to take a few days off
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