The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love?

[lonzo_pelota]

Seriously. Can we stop with these LA hates the Clippers threads? Quite frankly, they are bull ****. If LA hated the Clippers, the Clippers wouldn't have sold out year after year. The only reason people say LA "hates the Clippers" is ever since the CP veto trade. LA doesn't hate the Clippers, the obnoxiously loud Laker fans do. Yes, LA will always be a Laker town, and thats fine.

I agree with you 100%, the clippers are definitely some sellouts

blake griffin realized that first hand. thats why he gave the clippers "governor" the cold shoulder

[Gus McCrae]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

[QRich3]

lol just gotta love how my whole sports fandom life, a lot of Lakers fans have been trying to tell me that I don't exist, that I'm an outcast, a contrarian, I don't really enjoy sports, that I'm inferior, "redheaded stepchild", etc. etc. Yet here I am, a normal sports fan who interacts everyday with many other normal sports fans who support the same team I do. Yes, we're less, but we're a lot of people, much as they try to create the narrative that we're not.

With the years, I've come to understand why it's so important for those people to negate we're here, and why our mere existence creates such a problem for them. There is a certain personality type that chooses to root for the popular team, and there are a lot of those types in LA. People that need reassurance that they are better and stronger, and use sports as an outlet for that positive confirmation, that the team they root for (ie- themselves) is the greatest. Another team threatening that greatness creates a problem for them, of course.

It seems now that the Clippers have a good team, insecurity is rising to unprecedented levels, and the "you don't exist" rhetoric is getting louder and louder, cause that threat just got more real. What I still don't get is the aggressiveness of it, like I get the playful trash talk and I'm happy to engage in it, but it usually turns into the nasty stuff where you can easily see that the fact that you exist really upsets these people.

Obviously it's not the whole of the Lakers fanbase, I do have pretty good conversations with Lakers fans regularly. But it's a very numerous and noisy part of their fanbase. And it seems a bunch of Raptors fans online have joined them now, with the Kawhi thing.

In the end, we'll just keep doing what we do, supporting what we support, and enjoying Clippers basketball. Any outside efforts to switch the narrative are not gonna make us cease to exist, much as they'd love it.

[Forte IV]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.

[Benedict_Boozer]

I just think it's interesting that you keep reading headlines about Kawhi recruiting dudes to the Clippers. He was making calls to Durant, scheming with Paul George, now you read a headline that he was recruiting even role players like Jamychal Green - the dude presents this image of quiet and humble but he is behind the scenes making power moves! Is amazing really, kudos to him.

[Jadoogar]

Wouldn't have happened at an Argos game. Should have stayed Kawhi

[Jadoogar]

Will this happen for KD and Kyrie in NY? Obviously NY is a knicks town.

[lonzo_pelota]

The lakers and clippers are quite similar as seen here in these two photos, a clipper fanboy posted old photos at the beginning of this thread to shame lakers fans, it was a mediocre attempt but they say out of the heart the mouth speaks so when u dont have much to cling to as a long time clipper fan its understandable. But im not going to go down that road we all know the clippers faults and misgivings its well documented, in all truth we both hang banners in our practice facility's the clippers and their fan should be proud of their accomplishments as should the omnipotent Laker contingent.
Lakers

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Kawhi's team

No animosity from this side, although id never root for them , i understand its fun to be on the side of the underdog forever its all good i understand fully. Support your troops they need all the support they can get. hopefully this can all be settled on the court as it should be.

[tdotrep2]

i don't get being a clippers fan, was it that your parents couldn't afford laker tickets? or are you trying to be a hipster. lol

[PD28]

i don't get being a clippers fan, was it that your parents couldn't afford laker tickets? or are you trying to be a hipster. lol

Ouch lol comon. I kind of see it like Raptors fans in the 90's competing with the Leaf fans. Everyone said this is a hockey town and no one would ever care about basketball. It took 25 years but...WE DID IT BABY!

Do I think the Clippers can take LA over from the Lakers? Not really, but the we Raps fans fought a similar battle and I can respect it lol

[lonzo_pelota]

i don't get being a clippers fan, was it that your parents couldn't afford laker tickets? or are you trying to be a hipster. lol

[tdotrep2]

i don't get being a clippers fan, was it that your parents couldn't afford laker tickets? or are you trying to be a hipster. lol

Ouch lol comon. I kind of see it like Raptors fans in the 90's competing with the Leaf fans. Everyone said this is a hockey town and no one would ever care about basketball. It took 25 years but...WE DID IT BABY!

Do I think the Clippers can take LA over from the Lakers? Not really, but the we Raps fans fought a similar battle and I can respect it lol

but its 2 different sports, you can be a fan of both which many are. The thing with the clippers is... it literally doesn't make any sense. There is no real reason to be a fan of the clippers other than to be different, thats more issues with you than the clippers if you think about it. It just seems so paper thin.

[ejftw]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

How long did it take Man City over Man U?

[Gus McCrae]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.

It sounds lke you have issues from your childhood and the Clippers dysfunctionality was appealing to you. Maybe even you've convinced yourself all rich/spoiled people like the Lakers and the real LA representatives who watch games and keep it real are clipper fans. To quote my boy Slug, Clippers fans are all the same only seperate. Don't need the life story, it's a counter-culture thing. They were the worst franchise in sports, int he same city as the best franchise in sports, and you gravitated to the worst lol.

[PD28]

i don't get being a clippers fan, was it that your parents couldn't afford laker tickets? or are you trying to be a hipster. lol

Ouch lol comon. I kind of see it like Raptors fans in the 90's competing with the Leaf fans. Everyone said this is a hockey town and no one would ever care about basketball. It took 25 years but...WE DID IT BABY!

Do I think the Clippers can take LA over from the Lakers? Not really, but the we Raps fans fought a similar battle and I can respect it lol

but its 2 different sports, you can be a fan of both which many are. The thing with the clippers is... it literally doesn't make any sense. There is no real reason to be a fan of the clippers other than to be different, thats more issues with you than the clippers if you think about it. It just seems so paper thin.

Well cheering for the underdog/being hipster is something people really like to do as well. But honestly I am curious (for any clippers fans reading this), what made you pick the Clippers over the Lakers? I would guess most of their fanbase started with the Lob City era which makes sense as winning brings the bandwagoners.

[JellosJigglin]

i don't get being a clippers fan, was it that your parents couldn't afford laker tickets? or are you trying to be a hipster. lol

It is true. I'm not going to make fun of anyone who can't afford Laker tickets though. It can add up fast. I mentioned in a previous post that it's much more affordable for a family to go to a Clipper game. I've been to plenty of Clipper games if I wanted to see the opponent, and you definitely see more families with young kids. It could be hundreds of dollars savings when you're talking about a fam of 4 or more. There's nothing wrong with that. People have bills to pay, I get it.

However, these claims about always "selling out" their arena are kind of misleading. I work with vendors who give me free clipper tickets quite often. But I've seen the ticket prices around game time and they're practically free. I remember one time there were seats for $8 . And I've seen enough empty seats to know they didn't sell out. Of course it's possible they were corporate seats that they couldn't find anyone to fill, so technically those empty seats would be "sold out". It will be interesting to see if I'm still able to get free tickets this season now that they're a legitimate contender.

On the other hand, getting Laker tickets from my vendors has been nearly impossible, even during their crap lottery years. They always find people to take those tickets before they trickle down to me. I'm a small buyer compared to some of their larger accounts, so I don't get dibs.

For anyone curious, these vendors I work with are multibillion dollar corporations like Coke, Pepsi, Budweiser. They have a lot of season tickets for every major sports team in L.A. Their major accounts would be places like Disneyland, Staples Center, Dodgers stadium, supermarkets, BevMo, etc. I'm small fish compared to them. I get the leftover Clipper tickets

[Gus McCrae]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

How long did it take Man City over Man U?

No Clue!

[lonzo_pelota]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.

It sounds lke you have issues from your childhood and the Clippers dysfunctionality was appealing to you. Maybe even you've convinced yourself all rich/spoiled people like the Lakers and the real LA representatives who watch games and keep it real are clipper fans. To quote my boy Slug, Clippers fans are all the same only seperate. Don't need the life story, it's a counter-culture thing. They were the worst franchise in sports, int he same city as the best franchise in sports, and you gravitated to the worst lol.

[druggas]

Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.

I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.

Shut up about Laker fans. You don't know what you're talking about.

[LLJ]

It's a Lakers town until the Clipps start winning

LMAO. You must have never been to LA or know anything about our sports culture. Clippers represent the counter culture of LA.

The term 'counterculture' almost makes it sound cool and underground though.