Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets

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Are you okay with a GM making political comments?

Yes, they should take advantage of the NBA platform.
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Re: Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets 

Post#161 » by Saint Lazarus » Sun Oct 6, 2019 2:34 am

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paulbball wrote:Morey just got himself in titanic troubles. There will be pressure to axe Morey. Rockets is the most Chinese oriented team in the league with close ties to Chinese basketball. Fetitta is retail billionaire and fully understands that it's not wise to take any stance on politics.

Morey is going to 99% come out with a forced apology. Or else he is going to get fired. There is no other way to resolve this issue.

And why do Americans feel the need to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries?

How will you feel if China started funding Black Lives Matter? The Klan? Southern Separatist/Nationalist movements?


Morey isn't funding anything. He gave his opinion. Which affects NOTHING in reality... other than the pockets of those that already have billions.


You are missing the point. A sizable portion of the American left would like to stand with the separatist in Hong Kong by offering them public financial support. Morey echoed those sentiments, which is wholly inappropriate for any public sports organization to espouse unless they are willing to completely abandon the Chinese market.

Literal direct intervention in the politics and internal workings of a sovereign foreign country. It is literally a **** insane train of thought.


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Re: Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets 

Post#162 » by Saint Lazarus » Sun Oct 6, 2019 2:39 am

kio80 wrote:The situation in Hong Kong is a lot more intense/ severe than what most people in other countries think.

China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)

Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.

Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.

So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.

PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.

A very sad Hong Kong resident.





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Why even try to lie? China has been trying to step away from interfering with one country two systems? Don't even try to pretend like Carrie Lam isn't being directly controlled by the CCP.

Please don't try and represent all of Hong Kong when you're clearly in the minority.
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Post#163 » by TinmanZBoy » Sun Oct 6, 2019 3:07 am

oh boy, i don't know what Daryl is thinking... maybe he is tired of the owner and wants to get fired? he is a very smart dude, he knows what he is doing...
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Post#164 » by CptCrunch » Sun Oct 6, 2019 4:14 am

Just Freedom Fighters fighting for Freedom you know. Look how free they are. Please support their cause.

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Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets 

Post#165 » by kio80 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 4:27 am

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kio80 wrote:The situation in Hong Kong is a lot more intense/ severe than what most people in other countries think.

China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)

Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.

Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.

So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.

PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.

A very sad Hong Kong resident.





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Why even try to lie? China has been trying to step away from interfering with one country two systems? Don't even try to pretend like Carrie Lam isn't being directly controlled by the CCP.

Please don't try and represent all of Hong Kong when you're clearly in the minority.


I am simply sharing facts with photo evidences of what’s happening in Hong Kong.
I am not trying to represent anyone, but simply sharing my opinion.

I do not think we are the minority, it’s just that the majority are silent and scared because they get attacked by violence whenever they express their opinion in the public.

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Post#166 » by brutalitops » Sun Oct 6, 2019 5:59 am

So sad what has happened in Hong Kong. Hopefully this will result in change with the political puppers cleared and minimizing the mainland influence on policy.
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Re: Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets 

Post#167 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Oct 6, 2019 6:27 am

Shame on the Rockets owner.
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Post#168 » by MJ7 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 6:38 am

Mixed feelings. It's easy for team owners to be political when the social consequences aren't there. When you're actually taking a risk, all of a sudden it's wtf I hate politics now. At the same time, China is terrifying.
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Re: Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets 

Post#169 » by Johnny Bball » Sun Oct 6, 2019 7:06 am

paulbball wrote:Just Freedom Fighters fighting for Freedom you know. Look how free they are. Please support their cause.



You should have been around in 1776 to decry the violence perpetrated in the name of freedom.

There's people in this thread talking about the current situation that haven't been there or haven't even left the continent, talking like the know one damn thing about it, that shouldn't be saying anything.
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Post#170 » by JN61 » Sun Oct 6, 2019 9:39 am

Not a good look on Morey.
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Post#171 » by Showdown » Sun Oct 6, 2019 11:00 am

Pan Jia Yuan wrote:
Showdown wrote:China is a asshoe but Morrey is GM of the one of the most popular teams in China so his comments hurt his teams interest and every owner would put same statement in this kind of situation ( Ballmer included) . If he want to take statements like that then he needs to go to some other franchise where his statements wont hurt his employer.

Fascist logic right there. I'm from a country where companies "employed" KZ prisoners and they're STILL the richest ppl around (eg BMW cars, Quandt family, google it).
At some point you got to make a decision: making money - or doing the right thing.
You obv made your choice. "Hurt his employer" What. The. Hell.

Whoever stands up for China, UAE, Saudi-Arabia etc. for whatever reasons - is fascist to me.
Money being the shadiest reasons of all.

If your forefathers freed concentration camps - and you're subscribing to this "dont hurt your employer" logic. You have learnt nothing.
NOTH-ING.

Rockets owner is Chamberlain 1938 reincarnated.


There is nothing fascist in Saudi Arabia and UAE, Saudi Arabia was part of the antifascist coalition during WW2 and only reason why would someone put China in same sentence with them is islamophobia in communist and libertarian circles.

Now back on topic: Only goals that NBA franchise FO's have is to win on court and to sell tickets, jerseys and merchandise and nothing else. NBA as organization can stop dealing with China because they disagree with their policies but if single franchise do that only thing that will change is that some other NBA franchise is going to takeover their fans. By supporting protests in Hong Kong Morrey alienates Rockets fans in China and hurt his own team and that makes him bad GM .

Another thing where i disagree with you is that you think that he do it because he think that is right thing to do. I doubt that that is the reason. He is GM for a long time so we could see that he lowballed a lot of players that played very good for his team and even destroyed career's of some of those players ( Motiejunas for example) so i doubt that he is person that can relate with poor and middle class from Hong Kong. He never criticized China before about Tibet, Uygurs, aggresive behaviour in South China Sea toward their neighbours, their support for regimes in North Korea , Myanmar or Iran or any other issue. Reason why he support Hong Kong protests is because Hong Kong along with Singapore, South Korea, Japan, Chile and Iceland have special place in libertarian ideology which means that he is virtue signaling that he is libertarian zealot even though that kind of behaviour hurt his employer. His ideology is more important to him than interest of company that he presents which means that he is bad GM. Collison retired so he can preach his religion while Morrey do it while he is GM on tour with his team and it only shows his privilege in society. And supporting Hong Kong protests while his country is in trade war with China where right wing media spread propaganda against China while liberal media support Hong Kong protests isn't that brave and he isn't going against system, cynic would say that he is doing it because he is part of the system.
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Post#172 » by SecondTake » Sun Oct 6, 2019 11:24 am

Clearly? You took a poll to prove that? Or youre assuming your feelings based on western propaganda are fact?
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kio80 wrote:The situation in Hong Kong is a lot more intense/ severe than what most people in other countries think.

China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)

Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.

Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.

So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.

PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.

A very sad Hong Kong resident.





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Why even try to lie? China has been trying to step away from interfering with one country two systems? Don't even try to pretend like Carrie Lam isn't being directly controlled by the CCP.

Please don't try and represent all of Hong Kong when you're clearly in the minority.


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Post#173 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Oct 6, 2019 12:45 pm

We get it. Fertitta values money more than human rights.
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