OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond

[bearadonisdna]

Would anybody be interested in bell for a 3rd or 4th round pick?

Its bad timing with monts 1 good game but he is the type of name that would cancel out the howard gaffe.

Trade deadline passed and no.

There was no Howard gaffe, the gaffe would be to draft a RB early or pay a RB a big contract. The only thing we need to do with our RB room right now is cut Mike Davis to get a 4th round compensatory pick.

Yes there was a howard gaffe.
The offense came out flat on its face. DOA.
Sure just put all the blame on mitch.

[Susan]

Would anybody be interested in bell for a 3rd or 4th round pick?

Its bad timing with monts 1 good game but he is the type of name that would cancel out the howard gaffe.

Trade deadline passed and no.

There was no Howard gaffe, the gaffe would be to draft a RB early or pay a RB a big contract. The only thing we need to do with our RB room right now is cut Mike Davis to get a 4th round compensatory pick.

Yes there was a howard gaffe.
The offense came out flat on its face. DOA.
Sure just put all the blame on mitch.

Because they didn't even try to run the ball or to establish the run. You could have put Barry Sanders back there but if you don't give him the ball and put everything on Mitch's shoulders, you're going to fail.

The running game was a problem last year as well. 100% because Nagy refused to establish the run.

[dice]

Trade deadline passed and no.

There was no Howard gaffe, the gaffe would be to draft a RB early or pay a RB a big contract. The only thing we need to do with our RB room right now is cut Mike Davis to get a 4th round compensatory pick.

Yes there was a howard gaffe.
The offense came out flat on its face. DOA.
Sure just put all the blame on mitch.

Because they didn't even try to run the ball or to establish the run. You could have put Barry Sanders back there but if you don't give him the ball and put everything on Mitch's shoulders, you're going to fail.

The running game was a problem last year as well. 100% because Nagy refused to establish the run.

bears ran the ball a lot last season. 45% of plays (6th in league). that's pretty much half the time when you take out must pass situations. down to 37% this season (25th)

[League Circles]

Just curious, is trading for somebody like Eli Manning a remote possibility right now, in season, and if so, what would it take? Just curious.

[dice]

Just curious, is trading for somebody like Eli Manning a remote possibility right now, in season, and if so, what would it take? Just curious.

trade deadline was this afternoon, so no. not much happened, by the way

as far as i'm concerned bridgewater is the most intriguing name for the bears in the offseason if trubisky gets the heave ho. which i don't see happening unless perhaps there's no improvement the rest of the season

[dice]

i've been withholding judgment on nagy because i think trubisky is an anchor on the offense, but this kicking stuff is pretty brutal. doubling down on the decision not to get closer, and then this:

Read on Twitter

yeah, i had assumed that he prefers the left hash. what a debacle

the politically correct answer would have been "from 40 yards out it shouldn't matter." it's gonna be fascinating to see how nagy uses the kicking game the rest of the season. will he go for it on 4th down more out of spite (subconsciously or otherwise)? wouldn't surprise me given how defensive his personality seems to be in general

[dice]

apparently by the numbers the bears' playoff chances aren't QUITE as dire as i thought they'd be (4.9%):

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds

of course, that doesn't factor in team psychology, which has gotta be pretty bad right now. particularly coach, kicker and QB

[Michael Jackson]

Just curious, is trading for somebody like Eli Manning a remote possibility right now, in season, and if so, what would it take? Just curious.

trade deadline was this afternoon, so no. not much happened, by the way

as far as i'm concerned bridgewater is the most intriguing name for the bears in the offseason if trubisky gets the heave ho. which i don't see happening unless perhaps there's no improvement the rest of the season

How much improvement do you think he has to show? I assume he still has a somewhat long leash but if the rest of the season looks just like this they have to go another direction or at least create a competition right?

[dice]

Just curious, is trading for somebody like Eli Manning a remote possibility right now, in season, and if so, what would it take? Just curious.

trade deadline was this afternoon, so no. not much happened, by the way

as far as i'm concerned bridgewater is the most intriguing name for the bears in the offseason if trubisky gets the heave ho. which i don't see happening unless perhaps there's no improvement the rest of the season

How much improvement do you think he has to show? I assume he still has a somewhat long leash but if the rest of the season looks just like this they have to go another direction or at least create a competition right?

good questions. i doubt that a quality QB would come here to compete with trubisky, so he'll probably either win or lose the job for next season based on his play the remainder of this season. as for how much he needs to improve, i have no idea. might depend on the free agent QB outlook

fun fact: the bears face 4 of the top 5 offenses in the league consecutively to end the season. and the schedule leading up to that is no picnic either

[Red Larrivee]

Would anybody be interested in bell for a 3rd or 4th round pick?

Its bad timing with monts 1 good game but he is the type of name that would cancel out the howard gaffe.

But, why?

Bell is an all-time RB talent, but he's playing behind a terrible offensive line and can't produce. He'd have similar issues in Chicago. Paying an RB elite money is one of the worst decisions you can make in the NFL. They're all replaceable talents who largely succeed because of offensive line play.

Trading Howard wasn't a mistake. They weren't going to re-sign him and he would not improve this team's chances of winning games. Also, he's a two-down back, who telegraphed our offensive plays because of his inability to be a receiver.

The problem is this team's run blocking has regressed for three straight seasons.

[bearadonisdna]

Would anybody be interested in bell for a 3rd or 4th round pick?

Its bad timing with monts 1 good game but he is the type of name that would cancel out the howard gaffe.

But, why?

Bell is an all-time RB talent, but he's playing behind a terrible offensive line and can't produce. He'd have similar issues in Chicago. Paying an RB elite money is one of the worst decisions you can make in the NFL. They're all replaceable talents who largely succeed because of offensive line play.

Trading Howard wasn't a mistake. They weren't going to re-sign him and he would not improve this team's chances of winning games. Also, he's a two-down back, who telegraphed our offensive plays because of his inability to be a receiver.

The problem is this team's run blocking has regressed for three straight seasons.

Honestly i dont see the problem paying elite money to an elite player. Like zeke for example.
Bell is struggling right now so yeah his contract and current production isnt really good for the bears.

People want a commitment to the run game but how can you commit to something you dont like or trust?
Howard has shown he can produce behind less than average to below average line.
Right now Montgomery is called upon less than howard was. With howard the bears were 6th in the league in attempts so there was a reliance on the running game.


The offense is in shambles.
The bears have lost 3 straight.
The only difference is that you lost your leading rusher of the last 3 seasons.
There should be some accountability for this occurrence.
For most people the scapegoat is mitch.
Now theres a narrative for it being Nagy.

At this point its spilled milk i understand, but nobody cleaned it up and it spoiled and just recently we got a new glass of it with a 153 yd performance.

Nobody was expecting that so it didnt really go with the meal.
We saw the reliance on the run game is the difference between cracking 300 yards offensively or not. Overall we relied on a 3rd round rookie to carry the load for a potential championship team.
The offense is playing at historical lows so watever strategy they used to improve upon last years offense was an objective failure.
The main change was the rb. It was the only change really.

[bearadonisdna]

Man it was hard to remember there is a game today.
Bears are currently grading out as a D for the 2nd quarter of the season.
A win keeps them there or a loss gives them an F.

When i listened to sports radio this week not 1 person has mentioned the eagles. Its all just narratives around the bears but theres an actual game.

Bears could have easily made that last field goal and not blow the london game to be in a much better position.

[chicagoballer]

what a pathetic start. The opposing team prevented you from a potential superbowl, and this is how they come out.

Time to move on from trubisky. He either sucks or is shell shocked. As they commentary pointed out, he missed two open receivers for a short gain and took the sack.

Nagy gets this year and next year. If we still suck, we are in for a full rebuild after that.

[GetBuLLish]

Trubisky is an unmitigated disaster. What an absolutely catastrophic, franchise altering move to draft him.

[HoopsterJones]

Trubisky pick should get Pace fired. It should have been Watson.

[bearadonisdna]

This is one of the most torched secondaries in all of football.
Theres honestly no defending this offense anymore. not even mitch.
Really i hate how he has been targeted as a scapegoat but as a qb culpability will find him as long as he keeps having the ball in his hands.

He is reverse jay.

[chicagoballer]

The teams are treating the bears as a 4-down team because their offense is horrendous. The bears cant move the football, so who cares if they turn the ball over on downs... disgusting

[HoopsterJones]

That was offensive PI by Ertz before the touchdown catch. Why didn’t Nagy challenge it?

[bearadonisdna]

Bears fans-" Montgomery is a strud. Mitch is a bust."
Sometimes bear land is an inauspicious place

[HoopsterJones]

This is the worst Bears offense I’ve witnessed in 30+ years.