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2019 season speculation including trade ideas

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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1041 » by Crives » Sun Nov 3, 2019 3:25 pm

DBook is 47% from 3
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1042 » by Qwigglez » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:11 pm

Bogyo wrote:
timetoshinebaby wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Jeff Bower was a part of the Pistons front office that traded for Blake Griffin, just saying.

Correct. That's why I think it will happen. I just think we will wait till closer to the deadline to see things open up.


Just not sure how we are sending out about 29 mill to match salaries. TJo is "only" 19 and we don't really have anybody else in the 10+region, only the 4-5mill, which would take 2 more (relatively expensive contract for us) to make it work. That pretty much only works if we send out Baynes and Bridges. Or TJo+Kelly when he becomes tradeable. Not sure I would want to do either of that.


If a trade were to occur, it would have to be along the lines of Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Elie Okobo, and one of Bridges or Cam Johnson.

Our depth would look like this...
Rubio / Carter
Booker / Jerome
Oubre / Johnson (or Bridges)
Griffin / Kaminsky
Ayton / Baynes
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1043 » by Bogyo » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:59 pm

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Bogyo wrote:
timetoshinebaby wrote:Correct. That's why I think it will happen. I just think we will wait till closer to the deadline to see things open up.


Just not sure how we are sending out about 29 mill to match salaries. TJo is "only" 19 and we don't really have anybody else in the 10+region, only the 4-5mill, which would take 2 more (relatively expensive contract for us) to make it work. That pretty much only works if we send out Baynes and Bridges. Or TJo+Kelly when he becomes tradeable. Not sure I would want to do either of that.


If a trade were to occur, it would have to be along the lines of Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Elie Okobo, and one of Bridges or Cam Johnson.

Our depth would look like this...
Rubio / Carter
Booker / Jerome
Oubre / Johnson (or Bridges)
Griffin / Kaminsky
Ayton / Baynes


Detroit would only do this if Griffin wanted out and wanted to play here I think.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1044 » by SlovenianDragon » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:01 pm

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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1045 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:14 pm

Qwigglez wrote:If a trade were to occur, it would have to be along the lines of Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Elie Okobo, and one of Bridges or Cam Johnson.

Our depth would look like this...
Rubio / Carter
Booker / Jerome
Oubre / Johnson (or Bridges)
Griffin / Kaminsky
Ayton / Baynes


Wow, discounting our players and hyping up other team's players.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1046 » by hollywood6964 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:34 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:If a trade were to occur, it would have to be along the lines of Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Elie Okobo, and one of Bridges or Cam Johnson.

Our depth would look like this...
Rubio / Carter
Booker / Jerome
Oubre / Johnson (or Bridges)
Griffin / Kaminsky
Ayton / Baynes


Wow, discounting our players and hyping up other team's players.

I knew that was to get stuck in your craw.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1047 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:36 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Only trade I would consider is DeAndre Ayton, Ty Johnson for Karl Anthony Towns.


Rubio
Booker
Oubre
KAT
Baynes

Suns would be in title contention at that point. I say we go for it. Don’t see how Minnesota declines if we offer multiple first round picks too. Let’s just hope Minnesota starts losing.


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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1048 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:39 pm

hollywood6964 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:If a trade were to occur, it would have to be along the lines of Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Elie Okobo, and one of Bridges or Cam Johnson.

Our depth would look like this...
Rubio / Carter
Booker / Jerome
Oubre / Johnson (or Bridges)
Griffin / Kaminsky
Ayton / Baynes


Wow, discounting our players and hyping up other team's players.

I knew that was to get stuck in your craw.


Just a little of the pot calling the kettle black.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1049 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 6:41 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Only trade I would consider is DeAndre Ayton, Ty Johnson for Karl Anthony Towns.


Rubio
Booker
Oubre
KAT
Baynes

Suns would be in title contention at that point. I say we go for it. Don’t see how Minnesota declines if we offer multiple first round picks too. Let’s just hope Minnesota starts losing.


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Minnesota is playing very well. They wouldn't even consider. I don't think they'd trade him for anyone on our roster...the only reason they trade him to anyone would be if he demands out in 3 years.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1050 » by Blonde » Sun Nov 3, 2019 7:29 pm

KAT is never going to be available. Period. He’s there with Doncic/Embiid/Jokic/Siakam etc. as one of the most untouchable players in the league. If we want to add more high end talent then we’re looking at Love, Griffin, or Aldridge - older players with significant salaries and injury concerns. I’d also still be interested in Aaron Gordon who’s had an underwhelming start to the season but I still think can reach a much higher level and is a better long term piece than Saric/Kaminsky.

I don’t think we will or should do anything until Ayton is back and we see how the team performs over a few weeks with the intended starting 5. At that point, if we could turn Tyler/Saric/Kaminsky into a long term answer at PF then we could devote this summer to guard depth and re-signing Baynes (which is looking like a priority).
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1051 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 11:08 pm

Crives wrote:DBook is 47% from 3
:D :D :D :D

Finally proving he's really the elite shooter he was suppose to be. We all knew he has as pure a jumpshot as we've seen in the league but it's never quite translated actual in-game percentages. His career best of 38% from the 3 is only a touch above average. But now that he has an elite playmaker, a system that creates and finds open shooters and subsequently playing more off-ball than probably ever in his career, he's finally able to take good shots rather than having to create in iso situations.

I'm not sure if I expect it to stay in the high-40's but I do think above 40% is sustainable. Very good to see he's shooting so well and with seemingly ease now
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1052 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 11:16 pm

Blonde wrote:KAT is never going to be available. Period. He’s there with Doncic/Embiid/Jokic/Siakam etc. as one of the most untouchable players in the league. If we want to add more high end talent then we’re looking at Love, Griffin, or Aldridge - older players with significant salaries and injury concerns. I’d also still be interested in Aaron Gordon who’s had an underwhelming start to the season but I still think can reach a much higher level and is a better long term piece than Saric/Kaminsky.

I don’t think we will or should do anything until Ayton is back and we see how the team performs over a few weeks with the intended starting 5. At that point, if we could turn Tyler/Saric/Kaminsky into a long term answer at PF then we could devote this summer to guard depth and re-signing Baynes (which is looking like a priority).

I don't think it's true. We all thought KG was a Wolves lifer and he eventually got traded. We thought Kobe would be a Laker lifer too and there was a time when he became somewhat available. Yes, the guys you've listed are untouchable but I wouldn't say they will never be available. Circumstances change and the days of one-team lifers is probably over especially for star players. Players these days savour the ability to play where they want, with who they want and (imo) with less public scrutiny.

I'm not saying KAT is going to be available this season or even the next but even supermax's these days isn't enough to lock in a superstar so I wouldn't assume KAT will never be available. I just don't expect one-team lifers anymore.

I do agree with you though regarding not making any drastic, potentially chemistry changing moves, until Ayton's back so we will know what we really have in this full team.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1053 » by timetoshinebaby » Mon Nov 4, 2019 2:40 am

The only way KAT is available if the Wolves are stuck with their roster that isn't performing and KAT demands out.

T-Wolves are 4-1. I don't see any indication that it's even 5% likely.

And then would we really want KAT at that price? Ayton will be a stud no matter what people think.

Not sure I can see a firesale in the West.... who is possibly bottom of the playoffs...Rockets, Blazer, Mavericks, none of them are going to blow it up.

Maybe the Pistons, Pacers etc in the East but not sure who will blow it up.

Someone will but its just going to be a wait and see.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1054 » by timetoshinebaby » Mon Nov 4, 2019 2:44 am

Qwigglez wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
timetoshinebaby wrote:Correct. That's why I think it will happen. I just think we will wait till closer to the deadline to see things open up.


Just not sure how we are sending out about 29 mill to match salaries. TJo is "only" 19 and we don't really have anybody else in the 10+region, only the 4-5mill, which would take 2 more (relatively expensive contract for us) to make it work. That pretty much only works if we send out Baynes and Bridges. Or TJo+Kelly when he becomes tradeable. Not sure I would want to do either of that.


If a trade were to occur, it would have to be along the lines of Tyler Johnson, Dario Saric, Elie Okobo, and one of Bridges or Cam Johnson.

Our depth would look like this...
Rubio / Carter
Booker / Jerome
Oubre / Johnson (or Bridges)
Griffin / Kaminsky
Ayton / Baynes

I think the assumption there is the that target be a max contract guy. It could also be a lower than max guy who wants to get paid and his old team won't match etc.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1055 » by Wilber85 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 3:06 am

Stop talking trades lol.

We are sooo deep right now, especially when Ayton gets back

All smart high IQ players. Lets keep the chemistry! Lets go keep winning !

Griffin isnt an upgrade to win

Towns isnt coming

Kevin Love is not that big of an upgrade from Saric .

When Ayton comes back, i want to see baynes picking for ayton ! Lets get creative
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Post#1056 » by hollywood6964 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 3:12 am

Wilber85 wrote:Stop talking trades lol.

We are sooo deep right now, especially when Ayton gets back

All smart high IQ players. Lets keep the chemistry! Lets go keep winning !

Griffin isnt an upgrade to win

Towns isnt coming

Kevin Love is not that big of an upgrade from Saric .

When Ayton comes back, i want to see baynes picking for ayton ! Lets get creative

Yeah, it'd have to be a hell of a trade.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1057 » by TheLogician » Mon Nov 4, 2019 3:20 am

What about Giannis? Is he a lock to sign in Milwaukee? Sorry, trades are fun to think about lol
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1058 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 3:21 am

It's certainly too early to be talking trades especially with how well we've played, how good the chemistry is and Ayton having only played one game.

But then with Tyler as a $19m expiring, I feel like it might be the last time we'll be able to bring in a player that could really help take the team to another level.
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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1059 » by Jdiddy701 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 5:46 am

lilfishi22 wrote:It's certainly too early to be talking trades especially with how well we've played, how good the chemistry is and Ayton having only played one game.

But then with Tyler as a $19m expiring, I feel like it might be the last time we'll be able to bring in a player that could really help take the team to another level.


I just think the Suns are one move away from locking a playoff spot. Unfortunately, I can’t think of many players that make total sense right now for the Suns. You guys might be right with riding out our current roster. If Suns continue playing well, free agents would definitely be open with signing with Phoenix in the offseason - an upgraded arena, new practice court and Monty Williams, Suns are in a great spot going forward. Exciting times!!


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Re: 2019 season speculation 

Post#1060 » by sunskerr » Mon Nov 4, 2019 6:04 am

If we don't make a move, then hopefully our results for the rest of the season will have players wanting to come play here with Booker and Ayton.

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