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Will Booker make the all-star team this year?

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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1121 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 12:08 am

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So Trae Young will get his 25-30 points on 30 shots! I am ok with that

He’s averaging more points than Booker on less shot attempts.

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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1122 » by darealjuice » Wed Nov 6, 2019 12:17 am

I have zero interest in seeing Baynes or Ayton at Power Forward. Neither of them have the skill set for what a power forward does in today's NBA. We've seen enough of players playing out of position.

I understand making Ayton "earn" it back from Baynes, but I think the reality is that he'll be back in the starting line-up not long after his suspension ends. We've gotten by with Baynes playing some great basketball, but Ayton's supposed to be a walking 20/10 for us.
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Post#1123 » by Blonde » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:14 am

I didn’t realize the Wolves have yet to play against a western conference team. I predicted them to finish bottom two out west but they’ve looked good against bad teams so far. Dallas is probably a legit playoff contender and they have management that is always willing to make roster improvements throughout the year. It will be Phoenix/Dallas/San Antonio/and Portland fighting for the last 3 playoff spots most likely.

As for the Miami game on Thursday, they’ve looked very impressive and have a ton of guys playing well. But four of their five wins have been Atlanta twice without Trae, Memphis, and Orlando. They’re well disciplined so if it’s a close game I expect them to win, but Booker is on one right now so who knows.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1124 » by hollywood6964 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:31 am

Blonde wrote:I didn’t realize the Wolves have yet to play against a western conference team. I predicted them to finish bottom two out west but they’ve looked good against bad teams so far. Dallas is probably a legit playoff contender and they have management that is always willing to make roster improvements throughout the year. It will be Phoenix/Dallas/San Antonio/and Portland fighting for the last 3 playoff spots most likely.

As for the Miami game on Thursday, they’ve looked very impressive and have a ton of guys playing well. But four of their five wins have been Atlanta twice without Trae, Memphis, and Orlando. They’re well disciplined so if it’s a close game I expect them to win, but Booker is on one right now so who knows.

Miami will be difficult. They now have Dragic coming off the bench, so he will have to be dealt with. We'll have to beat their starters, which I think they can. Butler will take the Booker challenge personally. I think Booker will do ok, but someone is going to have to have a great game, ie Oubre.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1125 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:42 am

Miami is a similar team to us this season, they have their one star player, young players and very savvy vets. They also play HARD, they are disciplined and they have that patented Miami Heat conditioning.

It's going to be a GRIND and I'm going to enjoy it
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1126 » by Qwigglez » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:59 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Miami is a similar team to us this season, they have their one star player, young players and very savvy vets. They also play HARD, they are disciplined and they have that patented Miami Heat conditioning.

It's going to be a GRIND and I'm going to enjoy it


Except none of that is going to happen. Our length is going to bother their shooters and they will leave the House of Baynes with bruises. Booker is going to get back to back 40 point games. Suns gonna win 118-104.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1127 » by Qwigglez » Wed Nov 6, 2019 3:04 am

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I genuinely detest Max Kellerman, but I'm glad to see him give credit where credit is due for once.
Also catch him say "Devin Booker is one of the best players in the NBA this season."

Don’t watch ESPN but will check out clips of them on YT when they talk about the Suns. If Kellerman is barely recognizing Booker isn’t overrated then he hasn’t been paying attention to the Suns like most other analyst. Booker isn’t doing anything different this year except playing harder on defense. I haven’t noticed any new moves by Book that he worked on this summer, just doing the same old song and dance just perfecting his craft. I’m glad they are recognizing Booker and his impact but they should have realized this a long time ago.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1128 » by Crives » Wed Nov 6, 2019 5:17 am

Qwigglez wrote:
oddity wrote:
I genuinely detest Max Kellerman, but I'm glad to see him give credit where credit is due for once.
Also catch him say "Devin Booker is one of the best players in the NBA this season."

Don’t watch ESPN but will check out clips of them on YT when they talk about the Suns. If Kellerman is barely recognizing Booker isn’t overrated then he hasn’t been paying attention to the Suns like most other analyst. Booker isn’t doing anything different this year except playing harder on defense. I haven’t noticed any new moves by Book that he worked on this summer, just doing the same old song and dance just perfecting his craft. I’m glad they are recognizing Booker and his impact but they should have realized this a long time ago.


I would say his shot selection has improved with Monty’s schemes and new teammates... but that’s less of a choice and more of a opportunity
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1129 » by SlovenianDragon » Wed Nov 6, 2019 5:46 am

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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1130 » by hollywood6964 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 7:04 am

Crives wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
oddity wrote:
I genuinely detest Max Kellerman, but I'm glad to see him give credit where credit is due for once.
Also catch him say "Devin Booker is one of the best players in the NBA this season."

Don’t watch ESPN but will check out clips of them on YT when they talk about the Suns. If Kellerman is barely recognizing Booker isn’t overrated then he hasn’t been paying attention to the Suns like most other analyst. Booker isn’t doing anything different this year except playing harder on defense. I haven’t noticed any new moves by Book that he worked on this summer, just doing the same old song and dance just perfecting his craft. I’m glad they are recognizing Booker and his impact but they should have realized this a long time ago.


I would say his shot selection has improved with Monty’s schemes and new teammates... but that’s less of a choice and more of a opportunity

He's trying harder on defense. Some of that can be attributed to having to handle the ball, etc., but his d was non-existent before now, even when we had a pg.

He's not doing any Kobe Bryant isos- he's not good enough to do those, not many players are. And he was a turn over machine and bad shot taker when he did try, which was a lot. Again some of that could be attributed to not having good players around him, and coaching, but it was a bit much even still. Now he goes for quick hits, and using screens while dribbling, in quick hit fashion, which is not an iso.

And he's got better players and coaching around him. You're going to look better that way. Very few players can look like superstars with junk around them.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1131 » by sunskerr » Wed Nov 6, 2019 12:47 pm

I think Booker can excel in either role- primary ballhandler/point guard or the mix that he's doing now. He was very efficient last year despite being the only player defenses had to worry about. We've never seen him in a James Harden role with good players around him. Would be fun to watch, but what we're doing now works really well, too.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1132 » by lobishome » Wed Nov 6, 2019 12:59 pm

sunskerr wrote:I think Booker can excel in either role- primary ballhandler/point guard or the mix that he's doing now. He was very efficient last year despite being the only player defenses had to worry about. We've never seen him in a James Harden role with good players around him. Would be fun to watch, but what we're doing now works really well, too.


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Trust me, I've heard the same about Wiggins and Mitchell and didn't work.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1133 » by sunskerr » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:32 pm

lobishome wrote:
sunskerr wrote:I think Booker can excel in either role- primary ballhandler/point guard or the mix that he's doing now. He was very efficient last year despite being the only player defenses had to worry about. We've never seen him in a James Harden role with good players around him. Would be fun to watch, but what we're doing now works really well, too.


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Well it's a good thing Devin Booker is better than those guys.
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Post#1134 » by lobishome » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:11 pm

Well, at least I tried it.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1135 » by hollywood6964 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:44 pm

sunskerr wrote:
lobishome wrote:
sunskerr wrote:I think Booker can excel in either role- primary ballhandler/point guard or the mix that he's doing now. He was very efficient last year despite being the only player defenses had to worry about. We've never seen him in a James Harden role with good players around him. Would be fun to watch, but what we're doing now works really well, too.


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Well it's a good thing Devin Booker is better than those guys.

It wouldn't work with Booker either, he's not good enough. Very few players can pull that off and win much of anything.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1136 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Nov 6, 2019 3:25 pm

hollywood6964 wrote:
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Qwigglez wrote:Don’t watch ESPN but will check out clips of them on YT when they talk about the Suns. If Kellerman is barely recognizing Booker isn’t overrated then he hasn’t been paying attention to the Suns like most other analyst. Booker isn’t doing anything different this year except playing harder on defense. I haven’t noticed any new moves by Book that he worked on this summer, just doing the same old song and dance just perfecting his craft. I’m glad they are recognizing Booker and his impact but they should have realized this a long time ago.


I would say his shot selection has improved with Monty’s schemes and new teammates... but that’s less of a choice and more of a opportunity

He's trying harder on defense. Some of that can be attributed to having to handle the ball, etc., but his d was non-existent before now, even when we had a pg.

He's not doing any Kobe Bryant isos- he's not good enough to do those, not many players are. And he was a turn over machine and bad shot taker when he did try, which was a lot. Again some of that could be attributed to not having good players around him, and coaching, but it was a bit much even still. Now he goes for quick hits, and using screens while dribbling, in quick hit fashion, which is not an iso.

And he's got better players and coaching around him. You're going to look better that way. Very few players can look like superstars with junk around them.
Booker's D has absolutely improved this season. I think there are multiple factors. Less offensive load leaves more energy in the tank for D, playing in close games helps because it's hard to be motivated on D when down 20 in a hopeless game, better defenders around him help both in he gets to guard the lesser backcourt opponent and when the scheme is holding up around you its more motivation to not be the dude who **** up, and lastly some is him simply getting more experienced and understanding d better, some of his past mistakes like missing rotations is an issue for a lot of younger players.

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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1137 » by hollywood6964 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 3:35 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
hollywood6964 wrote:
Crives wrote:
I would say his shot selection has improved with Monty’s schemes and new teammates... but that’s less of a choice and more of a opportunity

He's trying harder on defense. Some of that can be attributed to having to handle the ball, etc., but his d was non-existent before now, even when we had a pg.

He's not doing any Kobe Bryant isos- he's not good enough to do those, not many players are. And he was a turn over machine and bad shot taker when he did try, which was a lot. Again some of that could be attributed to not having good players around him, and coaching, but it was a bit much even still. Now he goes for quick hits, and using screens while dribbling, in quick hit fashion, which is not an iso.

And he's got better players and coaching around him. You're going to look better that way. Very few players can look like superstars with junk around them.
Booker's D has absolutely improved this season. I think there are multiple factors. Less offensive load leaves more energy in the tank for D, playing in close games helps because it's hard to be motivated on D when down 20 in a hopeless game, better defenders around him help both in he gets to guard the lesser backcourt opponent and when the scheme is holding up around you its more motivation to not be the dude who **** up, and lastly some is him simply getting more experienced and understanding d better, some of his past mistakes like missing rotations is an issue for a lot of younger players.

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Yup. All of that for the defense.
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1138 » by Crives » Wed Nov 6, 2019 3:48 pm

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Post#1139 » by Bogyo » Wed Nov 6, 2019 5:21 pm

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Pretty cool, BR has us drafting 25 based on current records!


That is cool indeed!
But I'll keep an eye open for guys in the 10-17th range, just in case :wink:
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Re: 2019 season speculation (New Poll) 

Post#1140 » by Weemsickew14 » Wed Nov 6, 2019 7:36 pm

Not endorsing trades for this team at all but Lauri Markkanen is a guy to keep an eye on. The Bulls seem to underrate or underuse Lauri, but this may be a Jim Boylen problem. I would throw considerable draft assets for the next few years in order to have Lauri on this team.

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