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Re: KP's A Maverick And I Spoke It Into Existence 

Post#601 » by HEZI » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:47 am

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Davis19 wrote:KP is not Alpha and never will be. I didn't mind trading him but maybe we should have gotten little more.


We dumped Timmy with him, lets not get greedy now. That was probably the best deal we could have gotten.

That and the draft picks. I'm just here for the draft picks now. The season starts in June and ends in November.


The draft picks were the icing on the cake. Yummy!

Now just imagine if we didn't screw up this offseason by signing Randle and instead taking on a bad contract or two for more draft picks, would have been sweeter but oh well.
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Re: KP's A Maverick And I Spoke It Into Existence 

Post#602 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:02 am

Yeah, I've objectively appreciated the trade from the time it was made - I liked every aspect of it. I've never felt like the Knicks got taken or that they made a bad move at any point. I've thought from beginning they got more for Porzingis than possible, and that the Mavs overpaid given the facts of the situation. I think the Knicks FO did a great job with the deal in isolation.

At the same time, the Knicks have already come up small at the outset of one portion of the return (cap space, though it isn't completely compromised because they limited it to one year deals), and they don't really inspire that they'll get the rest of it right. All this tumult makes it more likely that they'll screw up the draft pick portion by making an impulse/starf*cker trade to satisfy Dolan's cravings.
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Re: KP's A Maverick And I Spoke It Into Existence 

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Post#604 » by Jellybeans » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:11 am

He was better then JT with 1/18 :D
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Post#605 » by Reign23 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:42 am

Jellybeans wrote:He was better then JT with 1/18 :D

1 of 18, damn.
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Post#608 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:17 pm

Jellybeans wrote:He was better then JT with 1/18 :D


I didn't even realize it till the announcers mentioned it. Most of his shots were in the flow of the offense.

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Post#609 » by K_ick_God » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:18 pm

Cuban must idolize Trump. It’s not ungodly. KP has been a volume scorer even at his best.
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Post#610 » by god shammgod » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:10 pm

kp is still a good player. just not a max player, franchise player, or probably even a 2nd option. he's just good. if he wasn't that height people wouldn't be nearly as excited about him. but everyone is always like "look what he's doing at 7'3" because he will occasionally sloppily cross someone over before he shoots. he gets a lot of good press because of 3 inches.
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Post#613 » by duetta » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:48 pm

KP will never get to that next level until he develops a couple of post up (as opposed to post-op) moves that he can go to when his jumper is off. At 7-3, a guy should be able to get 4-5 easy baskets a night. That was the thing that always bugged me about his game. Still, I'd rather have him here than the garbage we have now.
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Post#614 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:08 pm

I'm not sweating over the KP trade. Maybe time will prove me wrong and this take will look absurd in a few months, but I don't think it was a devastating trade for this franchise. The jury is still out because the draft picks haven't materialized yet.

In fact, I'm more upset that we didn't go after Brogdon and D-Lo this summer than I am about the KP trade. Because together they would've added more value than KP, who's a good player, just not a great one.
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Post#615 » by DOT » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:27 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:I'm not sweating over the KP trade. Maybe time will prove me wrong and this take will look absurd in a few months, but I don't think it was a devastating trade for this franchise. The jury is still out because the draft picks haven't materialized yet.

In fact, I'm more upset that we didn't go after Brogdon and D-Lo this summer than I am about the KP trade. Because together they would've added more value than KP, who's a good player, just not a great one.

I think it really depends on the draft picks, and if DSJ turns it around

But the big thing is, as Cap said, it seems like we prioritized using him to clear cap instead of getting back assets. Maybe if we don't send over Lee or Tim, those picks would be unprotected, or we get back another small asset, I don't know. So when you look at it through the lens of, it was their primary goal to clear cap space, and this is what we do with it, it wasn't great for us

But, really, I don't think it was a terrible trade yet, at least we got assets out of it and have no big contracts on the books after next year. I think you look at it as, we have RJ and Mitch (who we'll likely need to re-sign in 2021 because he's an RFA but if we pick up his last year he becomes a UFA in 2022), hopefully another top pick this year, and whoever we draft in the 21 draft, which we have 2 firsts in, all of whom will have low cap hits in 2021 free agency, so maybe we can add to the core then. Knox is potentially a part of the core, but isn't solidified yet, and DSJ and Frank both have pretty big cap hits in 21, so I doubt we keep them, but that could change

As long as we don't f*ck it up by trading our assets for CP3, we're in a decent spot looking forward, could go either way at this point
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Post#616 » by nedleeds » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:58 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:I'm not sweating over the KP trade. Maybe time will prove me wrong and this take will look absurd in a few months, but I don't think it was a devastating trade for this franchise. The jury is still out because the draft picks haven't materialized yet.

In fact, I'm more upset that we didn't go after Brogdon and D-Lo this summer than I am about the KP trade. Because together they would've added more value than KP, who's a good player, just not a great one.

I think it really depends on the draft picks, and if DSJ turns it around

But the big thing is, as Cap said, it seems like we prioritized using him to clear cap instead of getting back assets. Maybe if we don't send over Lee or Tim, those picks would be unprotected, or we get back another small asset, I don't know. So when you look at it through the lens of, it was their primary goal to clear cap space, and this is what we do with it, it wasn't great for us


If you further focus the lens and see it was the same idiot who created the bad contract you want to jam an ice pick through the lens into your eye.

Really the better play was, let Noah and Timmy's deals go as long as possible until we knew we could do something more productive with the space than sign dumpster power forwards. Call KPs bluff and see if he would take the qualifying offer, which almost nobody has done.
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Re: KP's A Maverick And I Spoke It Into Existence 

Post#617 » by robillionaire » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:00 pm

Yeah just force a guy who has demanded a trade to stay on the team anyway clearly a winning strategy
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Post#618 » by GEOLINK » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:59 am

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Post#619 » by Marty McFly » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:18 am

robillionaire wrote:Yeah just force a guy who has demanded a trade to stay on the team anyway clearly a winning strategy


because it's never been done before?
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Post#620 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:19 pm

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No lower body strength. Can't do **** with a body on him.

Second year his 3P% and FG% both went up, getting better. Since then his 3P% rose some more to 39.5% year before he got injured and 37.5% this year but his overall FG% has declined from 45% to 43.9% and this year down to 40.1%. And this is with Luka taking all the heat and not being the focal point like he was with the Knicks. The book is out. He can't do anything with a body on him. Solid shooter otherwise. Of course he's coming off a serious injury so there is likely some good room for improvement, let's see.

Interestingly his FT% has declined from 84% as a rookie in 72 games to 79% last two years to 68% this year, wtf is going on there?

Also, let's see how many games he plays this year. Hasn't played more than 66 since his rookie campaign. What would this guy look like at the end of the year if he ever made the playoffs?

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