Boston/Memphis/Milwaukee pick watch

Homerclease · Post #61 » by **Homerclease** » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:08 pm

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reload141 · Post #62 » by **reload141** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:27 am

Fox out 4 weeks.

WHERE WAS THIS LAST YEAR SACRAMENTO?!?!? GOD DAMNIT.

Floody100 · Post #63 » by **Floody100** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:32 am

Can someone fill me in with the whose Wiseman situation ?

Theocy · Post #64 » by **Theocy** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:48 am

Just to clarify something. We only get the pick this year if it drops below 6? I'm always confused with protections. Or is it the other way around. Ie top 6 protection suggests we only get it if its top 6.

Homerclease · Post #65 » by **Homerclease** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:36 am

Theocy wrote:Just to clarify something. We only get the pick this year if it drops below 6? I'm always confused with protections. Or is it the other way around. Ie top 6 protection suggests we only get it if its top 6.

Correct

zoyathedestroya · Post #66 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:39 am

Theocy wrote:Just to clarify something. We only get the pick this year if it drops below 6? I'm always confused with protections. Or is it the other way around. Ie top 6 protection suggests we only get it if its top 6.

7-30, it's ours this June.
1-6, it rolls over unprotected next 2021 draft.

chakdaddy · Post #67 » by **chakdaddy** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:54 pm

Theocy wrote:Just to clarify something. We only get the pick this year if it drops below 6? I'm always confused with protections. Or is it the other way around. Ie top 6 protection suggests we only get it if its top 6.

Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Theocy · Post #68 » by **Theocy** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:06 pm

chakdaddy wrote:
Theocy wrote:Just to clarify something. We only get the pick this year if it drops below 6? I'm always confused with protections. Or is it the other way around. Ie top 6 protection suggests we only get it if its top 6.

Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Homerclease · Post #69 » by **Homerclease** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:45 pm

Theocy wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:
Theocy wrote:Just to clarify something. We only get the pick this year if it drops below 6? I'm always confused with protections. Or is it the other way around. Ie top 6 protection suggests we only get it if its top 6.

Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

100proof · Post #70 » by **100proof** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:06 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Theocy wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:
Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

Wizareds, Knicks, Warriors and Pelicans are all trash.
Sacramento is dropping like a stone.
Thunder I can see crapping out with a trade

far from a given, 10 games in.

jirrit · Post #71 » by **jirrit** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:03 pm

100proof wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Theocy wrote:
Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

Wizareds, Knicks, Warriors and Pelicans are all trash.
Sacramento is dropping like a stone.
Thunder I can see crapping out with a trade

far from a given, 10 games in.

Plus teams jumping in the lottery, it can bite us or be good for us.

I don't have much intel on the draft prospects of this or next year so I'm not really sure what I'd like to happen. I tend to go for a 7-10 pick NOW as my preference. Because who knows what happens next year (the Sacramento curse) + because we can instantly add someone to our current core who I feel is closer than we thought we would be (ok still early in the season).

The above counts if we are going to add someone to our roster with the pick. But maybe it's for trade purposes, who knows?

Has the Bucks pick any protections on it? Do we have another pick in the near future besides our own?

100proof · Post #72 » by **100proof** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:09 pm

jirrit wrote:
100proof wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

Wizareds, Knicks, Warriors and Pelicans are all trash.
Sacramento is dropping like a stone.
Thunder I can see crapping out with a trade

far from a given, 10 games in.

Plus teams jumping in the lottery, it can bite us or be good for us.

I don't have much intel on the draft prospects of this or next year so I'm not really sure what I'd like to happen. I tend to go for a 7-10 pick NOW as my preference. Because who knows what happens next year (the Sacramento curse) + because we can instantly add someone to our current core who I feel is closer than we thought we would be (ok still early in the season).

The above counts if we are going to add someone to our roster with the pick. But maybe it's for trade purposes, who knows?

Has the Bucks pick any protections on it? Do we have another pick in the near future besides our own?

Bucks pick 1-7 protected.

Maybe wiseman drops to 8...and we pick there. lol

I think we leave the 2020 draft with Vernon Carey Jr and/or basey.

Post #73 » by **Bleeding Green** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:09 pm

If Wiseman falls to 8, there better be at least 7 HOF players in this draft.

31to6 · Post #74 » by **31to6** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:26 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Theocy wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:
Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

not a newsflash but MEM is certainly aware of the protection on the pick and is going to try to be really bad this year (they already rested Ja Morant!) and try to be much better next year. Lots of annoying scrappy vets getting signed by them next summer.

I believe in miracles but won't be upset if it lands at 7 this year.

Dave_From_NB · Post #75 » by **Dave_From_NB** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:29 pm

31to6 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Theocy wrote:
Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

not a newsflash but MEM is certainly aware of the protection on the pick and is going to try to be really bad this year (they already rested Ja Morant!) and try to be much better next year. Lots of annoying scrappy vets getting signed by them next summer.

I believe in miracles but won't be upset if it lands at 7 this year.

I agree - can't forget what happened with the Sac pick.

Patsfan1081 · Post #76 » by **Patsfan1081** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:14 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:If Wiseman falls to 8, there better be at least 7 HOF players in this draft.

Based off the first week I hope to god the pick transfers to next season. Wiseman, Anthony, and Edwards all look great but then there looks to be a huge drop. I was really hopeful Stewart or Bassey would look good but at this moment if the pick transfers you prob grab one of those touted overseas kids and hope for the best. Though all have been underwhelming too.

Patsfan1081 · Post #77 » by **Patsfan1081** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:20 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Gant wrote:
Homerclease wrote:That’s kinda the point sadly.

Yeah, bigs could emerge in 2021. Or just as effective, a very top pick in 2021 could likely be traded for a top level big man.

Yeah, early look is Maker and Mobley as the top bigs but it’s a long way out. I think they are likely using this pick. Not much out there for trades at the moment unless something crazy happens

21 does look deeper but it's a wing deep draft. Though I have high hopes for Mobley, he abused Wisemann in their head to head matchup last year when Mobley was a junior. C's haven't been to fortunate landing a high pick in a bigman draft.

Post #78 » by **Bleeding Green** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:43 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:If Wiseman falls to 8, there better be at least 7 HOF players in this draft.

Based off the first week I hope to god the pick transfers to next season. Wiseman, Anthony, and Edwards all look great but then there looks to be a huge drop. I was really hopeful Stewart or Bassey would look good but at this moment if the pick transfers you prob grab one of those touted overseas kids and hope for the best. Though all have been underwhelming too.

I don't even care about which players look great, but I just want it to transfer so that they spread the extra picks out across multiple years.

Wes-J · Post #79 » by **Wes-J** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:24 am

Homerclease wrote:
Theocy wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:
Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

Disagree it's going to land around 8-10 after other teams activate tank mode.

LewisnotMiller · Post #80 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:28 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Theocy wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:
Just consider the term protection...they traded us the pick, but added protection in case the pick is too good. The reverse protection from the Tatum trade was a weird situation.

Yes makes sense.
So we probably get a 7 to 10 this year package that with additional picks and someone like romeo to go top 3 or potentially package it with expiring if we think Tatum brown and Kemba is the core and an additional all star moves the needle. Either way not a bad situation for us and some flexibility.

Memphis absolutely sucks. This pick is gonna roll over for sure

They'd need to finish bottom 2 to be sure of that. If they finish 3rd last (for example), the lottery could drop them out of top 6.

Bad or not, there's no guarantees.