Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
LOL
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Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
Mojo Amok wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
You're telling me that we could become the Knicks? Both in terms of actual roster makeup in the short term, but also the long term decision making at the organizational level? We could extinguish all momentum and hope with just one trade? That's on the table?
Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
WallToWall wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
I wouldnt do this unless you add Beal to the trade. I mean, come on, you gotta make it an even trade at least.
Knicksfan20 wrote:WallToWall wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
I wouldnt do this unless you add Beal to the trade. I mean, come on, you gotta make it an even trade at least.
4 more years 160 million lol. And he’s not even playing. I’m gunna try and take everything I can.
Make a counter offer. These are all basically expiring contracts.
Knicksfan20 wrote:WallToWall wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.
I wouldnt do this unless you add Beal to the trade. I mean, come on, you gotta make it an even trade at least.
4 more years 160 million lol. And he’s not even playing. I’m gunna try and take everything I can.
Make a counter offer. These are all basically expiring contracts.
youngWizzy wrote:
So we're gonna lose 4 legitimate assets to get cap space this summer to sign who and get out of one contract????
Even if Wall never came back (which he will and will be just fine), no human on earth would never ever do this deal.
Knicksfan20 wrote:youngWizzy wrote:
So we're gonna lose 4 legitimate assets to get cap space this summer to sign who and get out of one contract????
Even if Wall never came back (which he will and will be just fine), no human on earth would never ever do this deal.
A trade has to start somewhere. And if u trying to trade Wall...its going to take at least 3 solid assets to move him. Its the worst contract in the entire league.
Knicksfan20 wrote:youngWizzy wrote:
So we're gonna lose 4 legitimate assets to get cap space this summer to sign who and get out of one contract????
Even if Wall never came back (which he will and will be just fine), no human on earth would never ever do this deal.
A trade has to start somewhere. And if u trying to trade Wall...its going to take at least 3 solid assets to move him. Its the worst contract in the entire league.
gambitx777 wrote:iTs tHe wOrST ContRAcT iN tHE EnTirE LeaGUe.
He has three years left on the deal. The wall we've had for years now has been mostly healthy wall with 50-60% effort. All indications look like wall has made some life style changes and we are likely to get 85-100% percent effort wall at 80-85 percent health . Which is better than what we have had. Hes over paid but not terribly and as stated it's 3 years, by the time we have to start paying the young guys he's going to be in the last year of his deal and probably tradable for no cost if not a small gain well before then if he's playing well. No reason to pay to get rid of him now.Knicksfan20 wrote:youngWizzy wrote:
So we're gonna lose 4 legitimate assets to get cap space this summer to sign who and get out of one contract????
Even if Wall never came back (which he will and will be just fine), no human on earth would never ever do this deal.
A trade has to start somewhere. And if u trying to trade Wall...its going to take at least 3 solid assets to move him. Its the worst contract in the entire league.
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Knicksfan20 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:iTs tHe wOrST ContRAcT iN tHE EnTirE LeaGUe.
He has three years left on the deal. The wall we've had for years now has been mostly healthy wall with 50-60% effort. All indications look like wall has made some life style changes and we are likely to get 85-100% percent effort wall at 80-85 percent health . Which is better than what we have had. Hes over paid but not terribly and as stated it's 3 years, by the time we have to start paying the young guys he's going to be in the last year of his deal and probably tradable for no cost if not a small gain well before then if he's playing well. No reason to pay to get rid of him now.Knicksfan20 wrote:
A trade has to start somewhere. And if u trying to trade Wall...its going to take at least 3 solid assets to move him. Its the worst contract in the entire league.
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4 years. Hes under contract for 4 more years. He gunna be 33 after that. Hes about to be 30 and you think his health and condition will improve?
Yes...It really is the worst contract in the league..It was last year as well.
Dont like the trade offer? Ignore me or make a counter. You act like the Wizards havnt been dying to get out of his contract.
Knicksfan20 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:iTs tHe wOrST ContRAcT iN tHE EnTirE LeaGUe.
He has three years left on the deal. The wall we've had for years now has been mostly healthy wall with 50-60% effort. All indications look like wall has made some life style changes and we are likely to get 85-100% percent effort wall at 80-85 percent health . Which is better than what we have had. Hes over paid but not terribly and as stated it's 3 years, by the time we have to start paying the young guys he's going to be in the last year of his deal and probably tradable for no cost if not a small gain well before then if he's playing well. No reason to pay to get rid of him now.Knicksfan20 wrote:
A trade has to start somewhere. And if u trying to trade Wall...its going to take at least 3 solid assets to move him. Its the worst contract in the entire league.
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4 years. Hes under contract for 4 more years. He gunna be 33 after that. Hes about to be 30 and you think his health and condition will improve?
Yes...It really is the worst contract in the league..It was last year as well.
Dont like the trade offer? Ignore me or make a counter. You act like the Wizards havnt been dying to get out of his contract.
Knicksfan20 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:iTs tHe wOrST ContRAcT iN tHE EnTirE LeaGUe.
He has three years left on the deal. The wall we've had for years now has been mostly healthy wall with 50-60% effort. All indications look like wall has made some life style changes and we are likely to get 85-100% percent effort wall at 80-85 percent health . Which is better than what we have had. Hes over paid but not terribly and as stated it's 3 years, by the time we have to start paying the young guys he's going to be in the last year of his deal and probably tradable for no cost if not a small gain well before then if he's playing well. No reason to pay to get rid of him now.Knicksfan20 wrote:
A trade has to start somewhere. And if u trying to trade Wall...its going to take at least 3 solid assets to move him. Its the worst contract in the entire league.
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4 years. Hes under contract for 4 more years. He gunna be 33 after that. Hes about to be 30 and you think his health and condition will improve?
Yes...It really is the worst contract in the league..It was last year as well.
Dont like the trade offer? Ignore me or make a counter. You act like the Wizards havnt been dying to get out of his contract.
gambitx777 wrote:No it isn't. Has 3 more years on his contract after this one . His contract is covered by insurance this year. Any trade made was money being spent anyway.you don't count this year in a trade only what's left unless it's a one year deal. Sure we wouldn't mind getting that money off the books early, but we aren't paying to do it not. And we arnt giving away that much! There is a good chance, wall will be tradable next year at much Let of a cost than you suggested or at a small gain. And if he doesn't ! So what. The team has prepared to eat his money and are prepared to rebuild with him as dead cap if needed. No need to waste young talent in this trade.Knicksfan20 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:iTs tHe wOrST ContRAcT iN tHE EnTirE LeaGUe.
He has three years left on the deal. The wall we've had for years now has been mostly healthy wall with 50-60% effort. All indications look like wall has made some life style changes and we are likely to get 85-100% percent effort wall at 80-85 percent health . Which is better than what we have had. Hes over paid but not terribly and as stated it's 3 years, by the time we have to start paying the young guys he's going to be in the last year of his deal and probably tradable for no cost if not a small gain well before then if he's playing well. No reason to pay to get rid of him now.
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Knicksfan20 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:No it isn't. Has 3 more years on his contract after this one . His contract is covered by insurance this year. Any trade made was money being spent anyway.you don't count this year in a trade only what's left unless it's a one year deal. Sure we wouldn't mind getting that money off the books early, but we aren't paying to do it not. And we arnt giving away that much! There is a good chance, wall will be tradable next year at much Let of a cost than you suggested or at a small gain. And if he doesn't ! So what. The team has prepared to eat his money and are prepared to rebuild with him as dead cap if needed. No need to waste young talent in this trade.Knicksfan20 wrote:
I cant tell if Math is a thing in Washington or not... U said 3 more years after this one... which = to 4
When trading Wall.. Teams arnt going to care so much about being insured for the 2019 season....They care about paying him for the rest of the years...the 3 years 160 or so million dollars he is owed.
4 years left under contract. He will be 33 during the last year of his contract. I dont expect him to come back better then ever...
With that said...u guys already declined interest in a trade for pure salary cap to get him off the books. So..All good.
Ruzious wrote:Knicksfan20 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:No it isn't. Has 3 more years on his contract after this one . His contract is covered by insurance this year. Any trade made was money being spent anyway.you don't count this year in a trade only what's left unless it's a one year deal. Sure we wouldn't mind getting that money off the books early, but we aren't paying to do it not. And we arnt giving away that much! There is a good chance, wall will be tradable next year at much Let of a cost than you suggested or at a small gain. And if he doesn't ! So what. The team has prepared to eat his money and are prepared to rebuild with him as dead cap if needed. No need to waste young talent in this trade.
I cant tell if Math is a thing in Washington or not... U said 3 more years after this one... which = to 4
When trading Wall.. Teams arnt going to care so much about being insured for the 2019 season....They care about paying him for the rest of the years...the 3 years 160 or so million dollars he is owed.
4 years left under contract. He will be 33 during the last year of his contract. I dont expect him to come back better then ever...
With that said...u guys already declined interest in a trade for pure salary cap to get him off the books. So..All good.
Fwiw, 3 more years after this one means... 3 more years after this one. 3 more years after this one does not mean 4 more years. That's really not a hard concept to follow.
Knicksfan20 wrote:Julius Randle
Bobby Portis
Elfrid Payton
Wayne Ellington
for
John Wall
Rui Hachiwhateva
Troy Brown Jr
Mortiz Wagner
2020 frp unprotected
pretty much get to have a clean slate and rid yourself of Wall and his contract.