Around the NBA 2019-20

Revived · Post #241 » by **Revived** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:24 am

BurningHeart wrote:**** Ryan McDonough.

That loser screwed us so hard.

So many Suns fans were stanning him for much of his tenure here.

In the end, he wasn’t even that much better than his predecessor.

sunskerr · Post #242 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:04 am

We are going to hear about Luka every single day and he is going to remind us every time he steps on the court against any opponent.

Honestly, as someone who wanted Luka for the draft, being able to say, "I told you so", brings little solace. I will never understand the reasons for drafting Ayton #1 when those reasons are compared with the reasons for drafting Luka, even within the context of 2018. In the months before the draft I flip-flopped on Ayton vs Luka, but by draft time I thought Luka was definitely the best prospect, so my brain is really struggling to get a grip over not having this 30/10/10 machine on our team.

I mean, 30/10/10. Come on...

sunsbg · Post #243 » by **sunsbg** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:45 am

I'm used to the team making wrong draft decisions in the past few years. Hope that changes under Jones.

On another note, nobody else bothered by the decreasing quality of NBA games highlighted by the World Cup debacle and an average athletically kid dominating the league ? I know he's good, but...when I started watching NBA basketball it was considered the toughest league in the world, it's not the case now. It's like the league is full with Josh Jacksons - average and low IQ players, contrary to what many believe that talent has increased.

Jstock12 · Post #244 » by **Jstock12** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:16 pm

Doncic / Booker back-court would be insane. Doncic wouldn't feel the need to be the clear #1 option, so his efficiency would go up significantly (maybe even close to 50/40/90), Booker would also get many more easier shots, so he would stay fresh for a longer time. I can't really think of a way to stop them. The league would have been screwed for years to come.

p.s. Pretty sure Ryan McDonough would still be the GM though.....

sunskerr · Post #245 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:07 pm

Jstock12 wrote:Doncic / Booker back-court would be insane. Doncic wouldn't feel the need to be the clear #1 option, so his efficiency would go up significantly (maybe even close to 50/40/90), Booker would also get many more easier shots, so he would stay fresh for a longer time. I can't really think of a way to stop them. The league would have been screwed for years to come.

p.s. Pretty sure Ryan McDonough would still be the GM though.....

They'd both have a shot at 50/40/90 with how well they'd compliment each other offensively. Just throw Doncic in Rubio's current role and Devin sticks to what he's doing now.

Dual · Post #246 » by **Dual** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:42 pm

What's the point of all this? :lol:

sunskerr · Post #247 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:21 pm

Dual wrote:What's the point of all this?

What's the point of discussing basketball on a basketball forum?

Dual · Post #248 » by **Dual** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:39 pm

It seems to me a masochistic thing.
Suns did the wrong choice 1 year ago, just get over it already.

Saberestar · Post #249 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:39 pm

Dual wrote:What's the point of all this?

We are talking about interesting things that happen around the NBA. It's pretty interesting that a player who is 20 years old is averaging 30-10-10 and his mediocre team is 9W-5L in the West. And that player could have been selected for the Suns one year ago in the draft with the #1 pick. We are commenting things like that.

Dual · Post #250 » by **Dual** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:42 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Dual wrote:What's the point of all this?

We are talking about interesting things that happen around the NBA. It's pretty interesting that a player who is 20 years old is averaging 30-10-10 and his mediocre team is 9W-5L in the West. And that player could have been selected for the Suns one year ago in the draft with the #1 pick. We are commenting things like that.

I dont get the point of fantasizing about a Booker/Doncic pairing when that's imposible already.
I say it for the good of your mind health mostly.

Post #251 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Dual wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Dual wrote:What's the point of all this?

We are talking about interesting things that happen around the NBA. It's pretty interesting that a player who is 20 years old is averaging 30-10-10 and his mediocre team is 9W-5L in the West. And that player could have been selected for the Suns one year ago in the draft with the #1 pick. We are commenting things like that.

I dont get the point of fantasizing about a Booker/Doncic pairing when that's imposible already.
I say it for the good of your mind health mostly.

Well, we have done it about like the last 4 drafts, so it's nothing new. Heck, we still talk about mistakes going back to 2004 on occasion. We discuss everything about the Suns on occasion, but it's pretty rare what we are seeing now from Doncic, regardless, just discussing what's going on around the NBA which is what this thread is for.

m1chal · Post #252 » by **m1chal** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:19 pm

Dual wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Dual wrote:What's the point of all this?

We are talking about interesting things that happen around the NBA. It's pretty interesting that a player who is 20 years old is averaging 30-10-10 and his mediocre team is 9W-5L in the West. And that player could have been selected for the Suns one year ago in the draft with the #1 pick. We are commenting things like that.

I dont get the point of fantasizing about a Booker/Doncic pairing when that's imposible already.
I say it for the good of your mind health mostly.

I'm with you. All this 'woulda,coulda, shoulda' talk is pointless. It is what it is.

Dual · Post #253 » by **Dual** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:21 pm

I guess you dont have your tweet timeline every day talking about Doncic in a pessimistic way. The only bad thing I saw about Suns fans for now. I guess is only one month into the season and I'm sick of it.
Dont get me wrong im a doncic fan, but in a good way, enjoying his playing, not like if it's some kind of torture as other Suns fans.

Kyler Murray · Post #254 » by **Kyler Murray** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:38 pm

Don't mind me, just checking my new nickname out.

nevetsov · Post #255 » by **nevetsov** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:57 am

Dual wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Dual wrote:What's the point of all this?

We are talking about interesting things that happen around the NBA. It's pretty interesting that a player who is 20 years old is averaging 30-10-10 and his mediocre team is 9W-5L in the West. And that player could have been selected for the Suns one year ago in the draft with the #1 pick. We are commenting things like that.

I dont get the point of fantasizing about a Booker/Doncic pairing when that's imposible already.
I say it for the good of your mind health mostly.

Yeah I can appreciate you guys discussing Luka's actual performances in the "Around the NBA" thread, but all this fantasizing/ rosterbating about what if Backcourts should probably go in the "fantasy basketball" thread. That's basically what it is.

Post #256 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:00 am

nevetsov wrote:
Dual wrote:
Saberestar wrote:We are talking about interesting things that happen around the NBA. It's pretty interesting that a player who is 20 years old is averaging 30-10-10 and his mediocre team is 9W-5L in the West. And that player could have been selected for the Suns one year ago in the draft with the #1 pick. We are commenting things like that.

I dont get the point of fantasizing about a Booker/Doncic pairing when that's imposible already.
I say it for the good of your mind health mostly.

Yeah I can appreciate you guys discussing Luka's actual performances in the "Around the NBA" thread, but all this fantasizing/ rosterbating about what if Backcourts should probably go in the "fantasy basketball" thread. That's basically what it is.

Well, fantasy refers to our leagues here (which I'm guessing you know) but most of the fantasies are discussed in the season speculation or formerly known as trade thread.

Talking about FO screw ups is nothing new. People have been doing it for years.

nevetsov · Post #257 » by **nevetsov** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:07 am

Well all of the "whatif" stuff certainly doesnt belong in the "around the nba" thread, which I'm guessing you know is for what's going on.. you know, Around the NBA.

It is all speculative so maybe all this stuff should move to that thread so the people who come here for legitimate nba discussion can just avoid that thread all together. Or if that's not enough, make a new thread for it.

Post #258 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:25 am

nevetsov wrote:Well all of the "whatif" stuff certainly doesnt belong in the "around the nba" thread, which I'm guessing you know is for what's going on.. you know, Around the NBA.

It is all speculative so maybe all this stuff should move to that thread so the people who come here for legitimate nba discussion can just avoid that thread all together. Or if that's not enough, make a new thread for it.

Well, it was in the Ayton thread.....complaints, now here. Sure, we can make a "What if we had drafted Doncic" thread, but personally I'd rather mostly avoid the conversation but it can be tough when people make comments that are ridiculous and incorrect.

If we did create a thread with that title, I can assure you there would be plenty of complaints there. Talk about any player is fine. Maybe past mistakes should go in the Suns History thread. I'll try to find it and bump it and mention it there.

nevetsov · Post #259 » by **nevetsov** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:37 am

Or perhaps if we're talking about potential draft blunders, it belongs in the draft thread then?

Again, I don't think most mind people talking about Doncic in this thread if he has a great game/ statline because it's actually around the nba.

But when that becomes "why didn't we draft him, I can't believe we made such a big mistake, Ayton sucks imagine him playing with Booker instead" it becomes theoretical and subjective, which over time gets redundant. I understand it's a fine line.

Post #260 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:40 am

nevetsov wrote:Or perhaps if we're talking about potential draft blunders, it belongs in the draft thread then?

Again, I don't think most mind people talking about Doncic in this thread if he has a great game/ statline because it's actually around the nba.

But when that becomes "why didn't we draft him, I can't believe we made such a big mistake, Ayton sucks imagine him playing with Booker instead" it becomes theoretical and subjective, which over time gets redundant. I understand it's a fine line.

I bumped the History one and changed the subject and I doubt many look at that thread anyway so those who don't want to read that stuff can ignore it.