GT # 16, Heat @ Bulls, 22 Nov 2019, 7 PM CT, NBC SCH

LikeMike23 · Post #141 » by **LikeMike23** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:41 am

logical_art wrote:
LikeMike23 wrote:
logical_art wrote:
Is your point that because the Heat are winning the first quarter, that statement is untrue?

I think most people were saying that Jimmy can't be the best player on a championship team. That hasn't been disproved.

But Zach LaVine can...

Said no one ever. But keep laughing at yourself.

I know you didn't say that, but it's funny how the Bulls replaced Jimmy Butler with the likes of Zach LaVine.

mtron32 · Post #142 » by **mtron32** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:42 am

logical_art wrote:
RememberLu wrote:This might be controversial but if I was Boylen I would not give players entitlement minutes. If you're playing soft or dumb, you sit. I'd roll with starter's minutes for Archie, Wendell, Gafford, Thad Young, Shaq, etc. I don't care if Lauri and Zach are our "stars". You come out as bad as that to start a home game, you have to sit. It's called accountability.

The thing that pisses me off about Boylen is he's gone from old school hardass to pushover softy.

Dude needs to stop caring about being liked and become more of a disciplinarian. There's a lot of mediocre effort an execution out there.

That just made me think of Wenington, Respect is better than being liked

johnnyvann840 · Post #143 » by **johnnyvann840** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:42 am

And another wide open 3 for Miami.

BookerBulls · Post #144 » by **BookerBulls** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:42 am

Whether it is coaching or not - watching how these teams play offense and defence is worlds apart.

Miami offence is pull of pick and rolls, back screens and consistent movement; oh and then they hit their shots. Their defense doesn't over commit and they don't double and switch on every flipping pick and roll action.

Bulls offence does 1-2 dribble hand offs - then just seems to fall apart unless something obvious opens up and everyone just stands in their spots. No-one comes to provide a pick for the ball handler and guys just stand in the corner. And our defence....double every pick and then switch everything; it isn't just Zach that gets lost on those switches.

Also - why do Miami players seem to be amazing and ever improving; while ours just regress year after year...

johnnyvann840 · Post #145 » by **johnnyvann840** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:43 am

Wendell has 3 fouls already? Jesus.

madvillian · Post #146 » by **madvillian** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:43 am

wendell plays stupid AF sometimes.

Red8911 · Post #147 » by **Red8911** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:43 am

Young can’t be missing those

t-time · Post #148 » by **t-time** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:44 am

Thaddeus must be 60 years old

TheGOATRises007 · Post #149 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:44 am

The Bulls are playing as if it's a scrimmage in practice.

This team doesn't even want to play hard.

Post #150 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:44 am

How can they keep getting that wide open shots

LateNight · Post #151 » by **LateNight** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:45 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:
LateNight wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:Remember when some argued you cant win with Jimmy butler?

Yea, good times

But if you don't trade Jimmy, you won't be in the lottery! And if you're not in the lottery, how will you get players like Nunn or Robinson?

Has nothing to do with Heat rooks being superior talents to the Bulls recent draft picks. If anything, Bulls have the higher upside youngsters. You could take almost anyone & insert them into Miami’s elite coaching system, and it would probably be successful. If C.White were on Miami he’d probably be the top ROY candidate right now.

OK... But trading Jimmy didn't suddenly fix the crappy framework of our team. And it certainly seems like we're worse off now then we were then

Dan Z · Post #152 » by **Dan Z** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:45 am

madvillian wrote:wendell plays stupid AF sometimes.

Agreed but keep in mind that this is only his 60th NBA game of his career.

TheSuzerain · Post #153 » by **TheSuzerain** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:45 am

Heat just play good basketball man.

No egos. Just keep it moving and shoot when you’re open.

TheGOATRises007 · Post #154 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:45 am

Spo is an actual NBA coach.

Boylen is a YMCA coach.

johnnyvann840 · Post #155 » by **johnnyvann840** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:45 am

and another missed layup by the Bulls.... it's just unreal.....

and another missed layup by the Bulls. Wow.

Lucky the Heat just missed a couple wide open 3's... but there's a gimme layup anyway.

mtron32 · Post #156 » by **mtron32** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:45 am

Dam lol, Spo calls that time out the second momentum shifts. Show Jim tape on that...

JockItch43 · Post #157 » by **JockItch43** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:46 am

The overall state of this team is depressing.

Kurt Heimlich · Post #158 » by **Kurt Heimlich** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:46 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
Kurt Heimlich wrote:Putting this vast difference in teams on the vast difference in pat riley vs john paxson. Riley is a masterclass nba mind. Pax...made a 3 pointer in pheonix once.

They had like no assets in 2016-2017 too.

We had Butler.

They're a clear playoff team now and we're lottery bound again.

I mean GarPax should be fired ASAP. Their expiration date has been reached as NBA general managers.

The initial wave of fire GarPax was in some part catharsis over having the drose/joakim/young jimmy era taken from us so prematurely due to the injury(ies).

But Pax screwing up this version of rebuild needs to be the last straw. Subjectively it's embarrassing to have such a long tenure with these awful and depreciating results.

FriedRise · Post #159 » by **FriedRise** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:46 am

Why is their coach calling a timeout after 1 turnover? I thought you’re supposed to wait until your team fizzles all lead before doing that?

Herrdoktor33 · Post #160 » by **Herrdoktor33** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:48 am

They let that Duncan Robinson shoot 2 3-pointers in a row, miss them, and then score an easy lay up. Really? Really? Go f*** off