Luka Dončić Discussion - Year 2

[wolfram]

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Luka: "Dad I have never had..."

[arkuo]

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

They cant say it out loud because it's 2019. But it's more because Trae is American and Luka isn't.

[Dirk]

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Btw Dirk, do you have a count how many different players actually guarded him today? Felt like they tried everyone. Each time i looked there was a different guy on him.

Tucker and Rivers were the assigned defenders. None of them were effective at all. Rivers was completely demoralised, he was crossed over, blown by, posted up and had a 3 poiter in his face as he just shook his head. Tucker got driven straight into his body and Luka still finished at the rim with ease.

Drew 4 fouls. Scored 18 points on them.

After having a poor play against Capella --- Luka attempted a tough 3 pointer for no good reason --- he just drove by him 4 or 5 times for easy points. In one of them he threw a lob to Maxi who also got fouled +1.

Harden was just a pylon about 3 times as he was driven by with no resistance.

Sefolosha, Mclemore and House had brief cameos.

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

I clicked the link, read this

In this edition of The Max Van Auken Podcast (The MVP), Max is joined by NBA/College Basketball Guru, UD's Top Scorer with 2,319 Points, Host of the Sports Talk 2319 show, PG-All American and Naismith winner (2001), Rashad Phillips.

I gave it a try.

I genuinely felt my brain dying. These guys have no clue. They literally were describing the opposite of what he plays like. The dude that hosts has 800 followers, so you kind of get that you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel here...

Negative attention, is still attention and clicks and this guy is so deluded that it's just an incredible waste of time.

Imon, my very best advice: forget the rashard guy ever existed. I am not even going to mock him anymore. Dead. Erased from my mind.

[J_T]

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

They cant say it out loud because it's 2019. But it's more because Trae is American and Luka isn't.

Oh this is the guy was badmouthing Luka before the draft. Then he tried to walk back but it didn't work. He always remained "that guy". So now he decided "you know what, I can't get them to forget about it anyway, I might just ride the train. It's a small train, but I'm the only one there so it could work."

Kind of like being a flat Earther. Not that many people there, but they are passionate.

[fuller4379]

We are happy that Sacramento and Atlanta passed on Luka. Apparently, Vlade didn't like Luka's dad. It wasn't like he was going to be LaVar 2.0.

[Nikson]

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Btw Dirk, do you have a count how many different players actually guarded him today? Felt like they tried everyone. Each time i looked there was a different guy on him.

Tucker and Rivers were the assigned defenders. None of them were effective at all. Rivers was completely demoralised, he was crossed over, blown by, posted up and had a 3 poiter in his face as he just shook his head. Tucker got driven straight into his body and Luka still finished at the rim with ease.

Drew 4 fouls. Scored 18 points on them.

After having a poor play against Capella --- Luka attempted a tough 3 pointer for no good reason --- he just drove by him 4 or 5 times for easy points. In one of them he threw a lob to Maxi who also got fouled +1.

Harden was just a pylon about 3 times as he was driven by with no resistance.

Sefolosha, Mclemore and House had brief cameos.

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

I clicked the link, read this

In this edition of The Max Van Auken Podcast (The MVP), Max is joined by NBA/College Basketball Guru, UD's Top Scorer with 2,319 Points, Host of the Sports Talk 2319 show, PG-All American and Naismith winner (2001), Rashad Phillips.

I gave it a try.

I genuinely felt my brain dying. These guys have no clue. They literally were describing the opposite of what he plays like. The dude that hosts has 800 followers, so you kind of get that you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel here...

Negative attention, is still attention and clicks and this guy is so deluded that it's just an incredible waste of time.

Imon, my very best advice: forget the rashard guy ever existed. I am not even going to mock him anymore. Dead. Erased from my mind.

I am positive he is or was on this forum too. 3pointer or PacersGM or something like that..

Phrases he uses are the same. And Hedo is the same..

In my humble opinion there are two ugly things:

1. He was not drafted in NBA. Bitter as hell. Then he went and play in Europe. He couldn’t get himself into Euroleague. He couldn’t get himself into 2.tier Eurocup. He played in 2.Italian league..Turkey and so on. All that created jealousy and animosity at:
- european players
- PG which are higher than 6.2

Because nobody will convince me, with his life experience, he does not know how good one have to be to play and be MVP of Eurolegue. At 18yo.

He probably has a contract with Trae (all good about him) for promotion. Luka has just happened to be in same draft class and it draws him crazy.

2. How can one call himself a prospect guru and evaluate Luka by His 4 year averages, from his 15yo to 19yo, as he has 9pt averaged? And compare that with Trae avg. when he played against his age players.

I am not saying he is stupid and I am not saying has "bad" intentions . But it might both be true. There is a third option which I don’t really want to write. And later is the ugliest of them all.

[J_T]

In my humble opinion there are two ugly things:

1. He was not drafted in NBA. Bitter as hell. Then he went and play in Europe. He couldn’t get himself into Euroleague. He couldn’t get himself into 2.tier Eurocup. He played in 2.Italian league..Turkey and so on. All that created jealousy and animosity at:
- european players
- PG which are higher than 6.2

Ouch. Yeah, doesn't look like a very talented basketball player.

I am not saying he is stupid and I am not saying has bed intentions.

We all have bed intentions, show me the pic of the lady.

There is a third option which I don’t really want to write. And later is the ugliest of them all.

Oh, racism? There, I wrote it. I don't think it's racism, it might be more hate towards certain type of player, regardless of race (although there might be disproportionate share of white players in that group he dislikes). Also I think it's pretty obvious that he is pushing for Trae because of his size. Proving to everyone that he can do it. Well, not him, but Trae can do it. Same thing, Trae will prove to everyone that Rashad was not a bust. The only problem is that Trae Young is an absolute giant compared to Rashad. Rashad was 5'9 170. Trae is 6'1 180. There's a guy that Trae can post and bully.

[leolozon]

How can you not like the guy? He's even funny with things like "I dreamed that I would score 16 in the 1st quarter, I scored 17, so I now I know that dreams don't come true." and this :

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[Jamaaliver]

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[Imon]

Amazing that this is Luka's first player of the week.
I guess it was because last season he was a rookie and he was winning (all) of the Rookie of the Month awards.

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[DJ_3_Ball]

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

I believe Luka’s agent told Atlanta that there was no way Luka would play in Atlanta. Assuming that was the case, Atlanta made a good move.

No, they didn't. Everyone gives Sacramento crap about passing on Luka. Listen, Luka's agent refused to send his medicals to Sacramento. He refused to work out for them. Which Luka wasn't going to work out for any team because of his commit to his team in the Euroleague, but if he had wanted to play there, he would have gotten his medicals to them & found a way to do a workout.

In fact, the only player who did agree to a workout with Sacramento was Marvin Bagley. I think that's a big reason the Kings talked themselves into drafting Bagley III.

But, at the end of the day, you can't be a wuss. Buckle up. This is the big boys' table. Shuffle up & deal. Get your chips together, shove into the middle and CALL HIS BLUFF!

You don't make a "good" move by letting a generational talent pass you by because he threatens not to sign. Call his bluff. If he does refuse to sign, then you get a compensatory pick the following year, and you're no worse off than you would be by drafting a rotational player or missing on a guy who will be out of the league in 4 years.

I mean, damn. At the end of the day, have some freaking respect for yourself as an organization. Be an Alpha. Not some pussy, Beta. Seriously. You can't bow down to the players like that.

I will say, and I said it at the time on dallas-mavs.com, I think the Mavs' reputation really helped them. Compared to Sacramento, Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, and even Phoenix, Dallas was the clear #1 choice there for any of the rookies.

Jaren Jackson Jr, up until the night before the draft had refused to share his medicals with Memphis and was playing the same game of chicken with the Grizz. Had he not relented. Dallas might not of been willing to part with the extra draft pick for Luka, if they had JJJ as a backup plan at #5.

It's crazy how the draft is one big game of dominoes.

[DJ_3_Ball]

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

This is a kin to natural selection. As far as I'm concerned, let Rashad Phillips run his mouth. I feel disrespected for Luka because Phillips dig some fake ass apology & asked for a picture with Luka when he was face-to-face with him. Real ho ****. Pardon my French, but I gotta call it like I see it.

But, at the end of the day, let Rashad Phillips keep talking. He's only digging his own grave. 2 years from now when Luka is MVP and Finals MVP. Phillips credibility will be gone. Non-existent. Just like his paycheck. ZERO.

[dirkules_41]

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Funny looking back at this now. You can see all the pieces of his game already.

[mixerball]

Rashad Phillips talking about Luka Doncic on the Max Van Auken Podcast.

Starts around the 18 minute mark.
Apparently his new angle on Luka is that he's not fun to play with.
They also say they still prefer Trae going forward and spends a lot of the time pumping up Trae during the Luka talk.

I believe Luka’s agent told Atlanta that there was no way Luka would play in Atlanta. Assuming that was the case, Atlanta made a good move.

No, they didn't. Everyone gives Sacramento crap about passing on Luka. Listen, Luka's agent refused to send his medicals to Sacramento. He refused to work out for them. Which Luka wasn't going to work out for any team because of his commit to his team in the Euroleague, but if he had wanted to play there, he would have gotten his medicals to them & found a way to do a workout.

In fact, the only player who did agree to a workout with Sacramento was Marvin Bagley. I think that's a big reason the Kings talked themselves into drafting Bagley III.

But, at the end of the day, you can't be a wuss. Buckle up. This is the big boys' table. Shuffle up & deal. Get your chips together, shove into the middle and CALL HIS BLUFF!

You don't make a "good" move by letting a generational talent pass you by because he threatens not to sign. Call his bluff. If he does refuse to sign, then you get a compensatory pick the following year, and you're no worse off than you would be by drafting a rotational player or missing on a guy who will be out of the league in 4 years.

I mean, damn. At the end of the day, have some freaking respect for yourself as an organization. Be an Alpha. Not some pussy, Beta. Seriously. You can't bow down to the players like that.

I will say, and I said it at the time on dallas-mavs.com, I think the Mavs' reputation really helped them. Compared to Sacramento, Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, and even Phoenix, Dallas was the clear #1 choice there for any of the rookies.

Jaren Jackson Jr, up until the night before the draft had refused to share his medicals with Memphis and was playing the same game of chicken with the Grizz. Had he not relented. Dallas might not of been willing to part with the extra draft pick for Luka, if they had JJJ as a backup plan at #5.

It's crazy how the draft is one big game of dominoes.

so, in the midlle of playoffs(title run) he should go to US for a workout?

[DJ_3_Ball]

so, in the midlle of playoffs(title run) he should go to US for a workout?

A) I didn't say what he should or shouldn't do. I said what was reported.

B) Why does he have to go to the US to do a workout for a team? The teams' scouts have passports don't they?

[Bob8]

I find kinda funny how people are blaming Suns or Kings not taking Luka. Nobody knew how good he will be. Not only professionals, people writing in Realgm, who are big supporters now, didn't believe anything similar is possible. Some from this board, didn't even want to draft him if he falls to 5. I had very conservative forecast, considering what happened, for his future and was constantly bashed how unrealistic I'm. Luka was back then just white, unathletic dude, who is good because, he's playing against scrubs.

[J_T]

I find kinda funny how people are blaming Suns or Kings not taking Luka. Nobody knew how good he will be. Not only professionals, people writing in Realgm, who are big supporters now, didn't believe anything similar is possible. Some from this board, didn't even want to draft him if he falls to 5. I had very conservative forecast, considering what happened, for his future and was constantly bashed how unrealistic I'm. Luka was back then just white, unathletic dude, who is good because, he's playing against scrubs.

True dat, good times. My top 2 picks were Luka at 1st and Ayton at 2nd, and that didn't change for last 12 months before the draft. The 3rd one was a bit of a dilemma for me and I went with JJJ just before the draft. I admit that I wouldn't have drafted Trae Young in top 5, he positively surprised me.
I was expecting Kings to draft Luka till 1 week or so before the draft, when I heard that they were even considering MPJ. That's when I realized they went mad in that team so I was thinking he would go to Memphis at 4th. And as it seems he would have been picked by Memphis if Dallas didn't make the trade. Dallas traded up just as much as they needed. Not too high, not too low, perfect trade. Well, ok, they were doing a trade after they saw Kings picked Bagley so they couldn't have gone higher at that point.

[fuller4379]

I find kinda funny how people are blaming Suns or Kings not taking Luka. Nobody knew how good he will be. Not only professionals, people writing in Realgm, who are big supporters now, didn't believe anything similar is possible. Some from this board, didn't even want to draft him if he falls to 5. I had very conservative forecast, considering what happened, for his future and was constantly bashed how unrealistic I'm. Luka was back then just white, unathletic dude, who is good because, he's playing against scrubs.

I can't "blame" Sacramento. There was three players in the draft that most people considered to be above the rest - Ayton, Bagley, and Doncic. It was one hell of a draft class. Ayton, Doncic, and Young are already studs. Bagley, Carter, and Jackson are solid. I think the only bust towards the top of the draft is going to be Bamba. Atlanta made a great pick in Young, but they could have made a better pick in Doncic. Obviously, no one had any idea that Luka was going to be this good in year two. If so, I am sure he would have gotten a Robin in the last free agency. I am happy that we got him and hope the Mavericks don't mess this one up like they did the final 7 or so years of Dirk's career.

[Dirk]

This Clippers game was just about the game where he let his emotions get the better of him the most. He was not doing great, but was still drawing fouls and shot the FTs well, yet he pretty much acted like he was the having the worst game of his career and never found a way to have a burst of energy and life that could have possibly ignite a comeback. Boston and Toronto played him more aggressively and his body language was much better than yesterday. Very strange one.

I will double check, but even at the start of the game he took 2/3 really bad shots.

This shot encapsulates everything, open, takes step back, misses everything /facepalm

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Discuss the defense in these plays if you will,

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The lessons in this game seem to be more "mental" and not necessarily in his play --- he got tons of free throws, so it is not like he was "stopped". Oh, it would have been cool to have seen him get a couple of spot up opportunities when Barea was in there running the show ha. That 2nd quarter was surreal. /closes journal.

[J_T]

Discuss the defense in these plays if you will,

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I will. The first one was partially lack of communication, I don't think he was expecting the switch to have happened. More importantly though, he had 4 fouls before the half of the 3rd period. His D looked different since then and I can't really blame him. He can't be looking for charges anymore. I think that the second case is pretty standard "D" for a 4PF player with so much left to play.