Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era

[TheBallsDeeper]

Duke players turn out to be overrated? Really surprised!

[chitownsalesmen]

that potential doe

He can jump and has a great wingspan. Let´s waste a first round pick.

I mean, its not like those two characteristics are bad for basketball....

[floppymoose]

Jordan Poole says hi.

[spikeslovechild]

So it's about time to close out that Doncic trade as a clear win for Dallas. It's great to get an extra pick but you have to hit on it.

Herro was right there.

[leolozon]

3-10 tonight.

Actually INCREASED his field goal %

Didn’t he go 2/4 in garbage time? If he can keep playing up by 20 against the 3rd string players of a bad team, everything will be fine.

[Stillwater]

I have no idea what possessed the Hawks to use a decent pick on a player that had been trending downwards all year prior to the draft.

Yes, he left HS with a good reputation, but by the end of the college year he'd revealed major flaws in nearly every area of his game. If a rookie comes into the league and plays poorly you don't assume he's going to become a top player the next year and offer him a max contract, but Reddish had already looked like he was struggling to shine even playing with college athletes, why on earth anyone thought he'd turn it around in the NBA I have no idea.

This was a case of the Hawks being seduced by picking up a big name HS athlete, he'll be lucky to get a min contract when his rookie contract runs out.

someone in charge in the hawks org cares more about preseason jersey sales and selling hope based on highschool/aau hype than they are interested in actual facts.Or they are really detatched and saw him as more than the scrub he was at Duke.
they ignored all the obvious signs about just how hard it us to win in the nba with a no defense unathletic undersized lead guard too just to get sales even if he is a ball handling chucky with nash vision and so yes their money making no winning gamble paid and still psyds them and the fans suffer...except for the fools buying its a winning formula.
ssome think they took reddish who they call Rustish based on physical tools but if they are actually interested in winning every indicator coming out of his camp was his struggles in addition to never having plays run for him at Duke was all due to a physical limitation in his core suggesting winning is not the priority.
thats dumb as hell to gamble on a physical tool pick with physical issues that may or may not exist and cannot be proven.
he could still come out of this ok as far as carving a end of rotation role if they stop forcing it and trade him at the dl. right now it looks like the hawks are good with letting him burn out fast

[jayu70]

Nope. Huerter started only like 2 games this year. He was benched for Cam.

And as far as trending upwards goes he only has 2 games shooting over 40% and he was 35% from the field in college. He has no potential, he's **** trash.

Huerter is 100% still the starter when he is healthy and not on a minutes restriction.

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He didn't start the first 2 weeks of the season and he wasn't on a minutes restriction.

Huerter missed the entirety of training camp and preseason with a knee injury. He was also on a minutes restriction coming off the bench for the first few games of the season. Once his minutes restrictions were lifted he was back as the starter. Then he got injured again. That's why Cam started. It also didn't help that Allen Crabbe missed the first 10 games and when he returned he was also on a minutes restriction, adding Evan Turner to the mixed having missed 8 games, the wing rotation was pretty depleted forcing Cam into a role as starter that he wasn't quite ready for offensively. His defense has been good though.

[Sark]

I still wanna see him perfect the double spin move though

If he could just incorporate a Euro step into this....

[KGtabake]

Give him time.

[Buzzard]

Cam's defense is legit. Worse case, he will be a defensive 6th or 7th man off the bench for 10 or more years. He is gangly and needs to grow into his body.

People like to show highlights of his missed dunks and clumsy offensive plays; but those same people never watch a full game. He has a real shot at being a very good to great defender. This may very well be one of those fun threads to bump at the end of next season that the mods hate so much

Hunter dislocated a finger last night so Cam coming off the bench is probably going to be short lived. He may have to start at SF with Crabbe or Bembry at SG against the Nets on Wednesday night.

[niQ]

Why is everyone surprised? We were already primed with this amazing thread:
Why draft Cam Reddish aside from "potential"? https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1816528

And then we also had this gem

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But I guess you guys were persuaded by the Rookie Survey
Cam Reddish To Have Best NBA Career, According To Rookie Surveyhttps://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1883901

[abark]

I see the athlete but I just don't see the basketball player.

He was a guy on my "do not draft" list. Not at any draft slot, period.

I didn't know who I wanted the Heat to draft this year. My only prayer was that Reddish wouldn't fall to us.

[Def Leppard]

Its all good hawks fans, so was siakam is year one.... So was siakam...

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[ItsDanger]

To borrow a hockey phrase: all the tools and no toolbox.

[FlatearthZorro]

For real, is he that bad? Havent watched the Hawks.

[abark]

Its all good hawks fans, so was siakam is year one.... So was siakam...

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Siakam played 15 mpg and shot 50%. People keep bringing up underwhelming rookies that turned very good, like him, Ingram, and early rookie season Trae.

But Reddish is not just having an underwhelming rookie year. It has been historically bad so far. And he was terrible in college, unlike a guys like Ingram or Trae, who were very good. Even a bust like Ben Maclemore was at least good in college. These guys earned the benefit of the doubt.

Outside of having a good athletic profile and high school career, Reddish has done nothing but disappoint for a while now.

Maybe he prove me wrong. But sorry, I don't see any comparable examples to Reddish where things ended up turning out well.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Too early to write anyone off. Ppl were writing off Trae to start last year.

Let’s see where he is year 3.

Not a great comparison. Trae Young was absurd in college, while Reddish was terrible. Not to mention, point guards have a much steeper learning curve in the NBA than wings do typically.

[dakomish23]

Too early to write anyone off. Ppl were writing off Trae to start last year.

Let’s see where he is year 3.

Not a great comparison. Trae Young was absurd in college, while Reddish was terrible. Not to mention, point guards have a much steeper learning curve in the NBA than wings do typically.

You’re missing what I’m comparing. It’s not how they did in college or the position they play.

All I’m comparing is that ppl wrote off Trae as well. The actual act of writing off a kid this early is crazy.

[Swish1906]

So it's about time to close out that Doncic trade as a clear win for Dallas. It's great to get an extra pick but you have to hit on it.

Herro was right there.

Like i said in another thread, there is and never will be any "who won the trade" discussion from the Mavs side. They had Luka as their #1 since the Eurobasket in 2017. They win the lottery, they take Luka 1st. To give up a top-5 protected future 1st was a nobrainer to jump from #5 to get the guy you had at #1. Thats why no one will ever look back and care how good or bad Reddish is going to be or who they could have drafted self if they kept the pick.

And btw picking Herro after drafting Huerter a year earlier was a no-go anyway. I get why they picked Cam (loading up on defensive wings because of the defensive issues with Trae and Collins) but Cams college season was allready so damn shaky. I think my choice would have been Sekou. Using the extra pick to gamble for a potential 18y old diamond in the rough.

Trae, your SG with Huerter and then a bunch of athletic forwards with Hunter, Sekou and Collins.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Too early to write anyone off. Ppl were writing off Trae to start last year.

Let’s see where he is year 3.

Not a great comparison. Trae Young was absurd in college, while Reddish was terrible. Not to mention, point guards have a much steeper learning curve in the NBA than wings do typically.

You’re missing what I’m comparing. It’s not how they did in college or the position they play.

All I’m comparing is that ppl wrote off Trae as well. The actual act of writing off a kid this early is crazy.

Whenever you have a rookie getting written off by people, its just confirmation bias. If they thought Trae Young would bust anyway, and he starts off struggling, they are thinking its just confirming he will be a bust. People (sadly) love watching people fail, so you have a lot of people that are rooting for kids to bust too.

EDIT: I did understand your point by the way, I'm just saying the situations are so incredibly different that it isn't very comparable.