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Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#921 » by Ernest » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:24 pm

GregB wrote:Who’s the best player we can get using Smart, Poirier and Semi?

Steven Adams?


Any deal for smart would be one we lose. The D is just too important. Sadly Hayward is the guy that makes the most sense to trade.
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Post#922 » by Higgs Boston » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:43 pm

Hayward is much more important than Smart, he makes the team a contender if he is healthy, Smart is just a good role player that doesn't move the needle. The team can have an elite defense without Smart especially if we add a defensive big, but we can't have an elite offense without Hayward.
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Post#923 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:02 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:Hayward is much important than Smart, he makes the team a contender if he is healthy, Smart is just a good role player that doesn't move the needle. The team can have an elite defense without Smart especially if we add a defensive big, but we can't have an elite offense without Hayward.


I couldn’t agree more. Fit DOES matter but it’s true- we can be elite on d without smart and we can’t be elite on offense ( this year) without Hayward. We ARE counting on his health but winning a title is such a crazy long shot of luck to go with talent. Hayward makes people better. He makes good looks for the team. I’m really surprised people think Steven Adams minus Hayward gets us a title. But I’m wrong more than I’m right. I almost trust Danny 100 percent in this. Almost.
If fans feel we are THAT close to putting a legit challenge get to the Clippers/ Lakers ( or whoever you deem the toughest challenge) I think we should be trying to see if Indy would move Turner to us or maybe we could package him with pick and asset for Drummond, or Aaron Gordon. He’d be a little center but a “ death” lineup of Kemba, brown, Hayward, Tatum, Gordon ? I dunno. I like it. But maybe Orlando can’t be convinced even with a grizzly pick ?
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Post#924 » by Wes-J » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:38 pm

Why is everybody infatuated with A. Gordon?

We don't need him.
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Post#925 » by Higgs Boston » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:17 pm

Wes-J wrote:Why is everybody infatuated with A. Gordon?

We don't need him.


It's easy:

1. He has a long and decent contract
2. He is a young PF with high potential and we need bigs.
3. He is playing below expectations and his price should be relatively low.
4. He is a orlando magic player, a franchise that isn't considered to be good developing young talent.

It's one of the options in the category "buy low, high reward"
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Post#926 » by Wes-J » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:41 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:
Wes-J wrote:Why is everybody infatuated with A. Gordon?

We don't need him.


It's easy:

1. He has a long and decent contract
2. He is a young PF with high potential and we need bigs.
3. He is playing below expectations and his price should be relatively low.
4. He is a orlando magic player, a franchise that isn't considered to be good developing young talent.

It's one of the options in the category "buy low, high reward"


Almost everything you said is the reason Orlando won't trade him.
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Post#927 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:46 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:
Wes-J wrote:Why is everybody infatuated with A. Gordon?

We don't need him.


It's easy:

1. He has a long and decent contract
2. He is a young PF with high potential and we need bigs.
3. He is playing below expectations and his price should be relatively low.
4. He is a orlando magic player, a franchise that isn't considered to be good developing young talent.

It's one of the options in the category "buy low, high reward"

He's not a big. He would be the fourth wing behind Tatum/Brown/Hayward. He would never be the big for a lineup with the Celtics. He's a fine defensive roleplayer, but not really all that valuable. Would he get like 15 minutes some nights in Boston? Certainly I don't ever want him shooting is the problem as he'd almost always be the worst offensive player on the court unless you put him out there with Semi.
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Post#928 » by Bird4Three » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:57 pm

So the KAT rumors....any plausible way to get him without trading core players (Kemba, Jayson, Jalen, Smart, Hayward)?
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Post#929 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:06 pm

Wes-J wrote:Why is everybody infatuated with A. Gordon?

We don't need him.


I do like the player but it’s more that I think we’d be better with him than smart. I’m not ready to give smart away in a package for Steven Adams. I mean I think we’d be better for sure but I’m greedy and wondering if we can get something a bit better with a couple picks included. I like Turner then Gordon before Adams. So I’m talking smart/ Kanter/ grizzly pick/ our own pick/ Langford .. all of this may just result in a quick hang up of the phone but it’s just more sensible to me than trading Hayward and hurting our offense.
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Post#930 » by Bar Fight » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:07 pm

Bird4Three wrote:So the KAT rumors....any plausible way to get him without trading core players (Kemba, Jayson, Jalen, Smart, Hayward)?

If the Timberwolves front office is on crack maybe
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Post#931 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:08 pm

Bird4Three wrote:So the KAT rumors....any plausible way to get him without trading core players (Kemba, Jayson, Jalen, Smart, Hayward)?


I’m not trading Kemba for KAT but it would be tough to turn down anything else. If we could ship Tatum/ smart / pick I’d say see ya later. We’d be a monster of a team. But it’s not happening.
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Post#932 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:09 pm

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Higgs Boston wrote:
Wes-J wrote:Why is everybody infatuated with A. Gordon?

We don't need him.


It's easy:

1. He has a long and decent contract
2. He is a young PF with high potential and we need bigs.
3. He is playing below expectations and his price should be relatively low.
4. He is a orlando magic player, a franchise that isn't considered to be good developing young talent.

It's one of the options in the category "buy low, high reward"

He's not a big. He would be the fourth wing behind Tatum/Brown/Hayward. He would never be the big for a lineup with the Celtics. He's a fine defensive roleplayer, but not really all that valuable. Would he get like 15 minutes some nights in Boston? Certainly I don't ever want him shooting is the problem as he'd almost always be the worst offensive player on the court unless you put him out there with Semi.


He’d get plenty of time at center despite his size.
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Post#933 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:22 pm

Dannyboy36 wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
Higgs Boston wrote:
It's easy:

1. He has a long and decent contract
2. He is a young PF with high potential and we need bigs.
3. He is playing below expectations and his price should be relatively low.
4. He is a orlando magic player, a franchise that isn't considered to be good developing young talent.

It's one of the options in the category "buy low, high reward"

He's not a big. He would be the fourth wing behind Tatum/Brown/Hayward. He would never be the big for a lineup with the Celtics. He's a fine defensive roleplayer, but not really all that valuable. Would he get like 15 minutes some nights in Boston? Certainly I don't ever want him shooting is the problem as he'd almost always be the worst offensive player on the court unless you put him out there with Semi.


He’d get plenty of time at center despite his size.

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#934 » by Scarletfire81 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:29 pm

Dannyboy36 wrote:
Bird4Three wrote:So the KAT rumors....any plausible way to get him without trading core players (Kemba, Jayson, Jalen, Smart, Hayward)?


I’m not trading Kemba for KAT but it would be tough to turn down anything else. If we could ship Tatum/ smart / pick I’d say see ya later. We’d be a monster of a team. But it’s not happening.



It would probably take Hayward & Tatum with multiple first round picks (not including memphis pick) for KAT. Even then they would probably say no. We would have Kemba, Brown, and KAT locked up for the foreseable future. Not sure how much better it would make us though.
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Post#935 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:37 pm

If I’m Minny, I’m demanding Tatum, Brown and the Mem pick from Boston.

I wouldnt do that. No deal will be had.
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Post#936 » by Scarletfire81 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:44 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:If I’m Minny, I’m demanding Tatum, Brown and the Mem pick from Boston.

I wouldnt do that. No deal will be had.



Hayward would need to be in the deal to match salaries. Hayward Tatum and Memphis pick? Lol, I don’t know. Tatum fits in so well here.
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Post#937 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:52 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:If I’m Minny, I’m demanding Tatum, Brown and the Mem pick from Boston.

I wouldnt do that. No deal will be had.



Hayward would need to be in the deal to match salaries. Hayward Tatum and Memphis pick? Lol, I don’t know. Tatum fits in so well here.


He wont be dealt during the season.

Best hope would be for them to accept Smart, Brown and picks. Guessing theyd want significantly more.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#938 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:03 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Scarletfire81 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:If I’m Minny, I’m demanding Tatum, Brown and the Mem pick from Boston.

I wouldnt do that. No deal will be had.



Hayward would need to be in the deal to match salaries. Hayward Tatum and Memphis pick? Lol, I don’t know. Tatum fits in so well here.


He wont be dealt during the season.

Best hope would be for them to accept Smart, Brown and picks. Guessing theyd want significantly more.


If I'm the GM of the Wolves, I'd kick KAT out of my office for the next 3 years. As soon as he steps inside, I'm telling him to GTFO. He can sulk all he wants. It's that how he wants his career to be defined, then so be it. There is absolutely no reason as to why the Wolves should even listen to offers at this point.
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Post#939 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:07 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Scarletfire81 wrote:

Hayward would need to be in the deal to match salaries. Hayward Tatum and Memphis pick? Lol, I don’t know. Tatum fits in so well here.


He wont be dealt during the season.

Best hope would be for them to accept Smart, Brown and picks. Guessing theyd want significantly more.


If I'm the GM of the Wolves, I'd kick KAT out of my office for the next 3 years. As soon as he steps inside, I'm telling him to GTFO. He can sulk all he wants. It's that how he wants his career to be defined, then so be it. There is absolutely no reason as to why the Wolves should even listen to offers at this point.


Thats my feeling as well.

If KAT doesnt like it, he shouldnt have signed the extension.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#940 » by jeremym480 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:19 pm

Hot take alert: On the court, I'm not sure if KAT would even be worth giving up two of either Tatum/Brown and either Hayward/Smart.

I think KAT is great and would love to have him but I think that would just open up another huge hole somewhere in the starting lineup and make our depth (which isn't great in the first place) even worse. I also think that unless it's all of Tatum, Brown and the Memphis pick (in the offseason) then there's still a handful of teams that could beat our best offer.

I don't know... as much as I'd love him I just not sure if there's a deal to be had.

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