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Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1241 » by Jstock12 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 8:35 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Brutal how overpaid big men are in this league.

Would Memphis be interested in their pick back for Valanciunas? Theis and a combo of guys like Langford, Wanamaker, Semi, Carsen, Grant would work salary wise. Not sure how they value him right now though..

Jonas is a big that I could see fit in really well here..


He's having a good year. 60% from the field, 47% from three. 65% TS
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Post#1242 » by UNCBlue012 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 8:40 pm

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But in all seriousness, he'd be a great guy off the bench.
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Post#1243 » by watsonthedragon » Mon Jan 6, 2020 8:46 pm

Would you guys give up a 1st for Bertans? I think he'd be a great fit off the bench.
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Post#1244 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jan 6, 2020 8:49 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Would you guys give up a 1st for Bertans? I think he'd be a great fit off the bench.

The bigger question is will Ainge be willing to give Bertans a multiple years contract at $15 million per which is the mininum it would probably take to keep him past this year?

If the answer is No then why give up a first round pick for him?
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Post#1245 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jan 6, 2020 8:55 pm

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Post#1246 » by MagicBagley18 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 8:58 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:Special teams win banners. This team can’t. That being said brown can’t be traded this year and with our salary construction it makes any real trade hard as we would have to lose a player of importance and quite frankly I don’t see anyone available this year that would jump us into the tier 1 team level.

Enjoy the ride, let Tatum turn into the star he is- Hope brown does or at least maintains this level of play and then next summer we trade him for someone who can elevate this team to a real contender. This team is a joy to watch and I love them but baring injuries to 3-4 teams above us we aren’t winning anything this year


I disagree. I think this team can absolutely win the title. I could be wrong, but based on your post it seems like you are still not a complete believer in JB/JT in terms of them being ready for a title. so you're basing this teams upside on how far Kemba/Hayward can carry this team. Is that fair of me to say? I am on the other end. I see JB/JT and I cannot find a better wing duo not named Kawhi & PG. JB/JT are 2 of the best players on the floor MOST games. and they are 2-way players. Then you add in Kemba/Hayward. This team can go as far as they believe they can go. If the teams mindset is "we can win the title this year", then they are absolutely capable of it. When I see this group play I see a team that is rapidly getting better and better. Even on off nights on the road they are taking care of business. A star down, they are taking care of business. There's been very few lapses thus far on the season. 25-8 and they haven't even had their core healthy together for the majority of those 33 games.

This team is better 1-5 VS Milwaukee & Philly and everyone else in the East.

Bucks VS Celtics

Kemba > Bledsoe
JB > Matthews
Tatum > Middleton
Hayward < Giannis
Theis < Brook

Smart/Kanter > Hill/RLopez.
Bucks have better spacing. Celtics have better star power 1-4.

That is a 7-game series.

Philly is self imploding. as of right now they would face Bucks in the 2nd round. I agree that from a match-up perspective they aren't a good match-up for Boston RIGHT NOW. but I think come playoffs Boston will be much better.


“This team can go as far as they believe they can go” sounds great in a Disney film but not in real life. As far as me not being a complete believer in JT or JB- that’s partially correct, as I’ve made it known that I’m not as high as JB as most here although I’m hoping to be proven wrong. As far as JT I do think he has superstar potential written all over him - but no I don’t think he’s ready THIS season to carry or lead us to the the championship . In his career ? Sure but not this year.

I’m sure this team has a mindset “we can win the title this year” they should, they are competitors and I applaud and want my team to have that mentality. Hoping, wishing and wanting do not make it a reality though. This team does not have a kawhi, Lebron, ad, Giannis etc on it, let alone the depth of a champion. Nor does he have a player who can consistently stop a Giannis or kawhi fully healthy in the playoffs. The players we hope will eventually reach that perennials all star or super star level - are currently too young.

This team is at most an ECF team if they get the right seeding and avoid playing both the bucks and philly. If somehow they made the finals it would be over in 5 against the clippers or lakers. It’s a very easy team to root and cheer for. I enjoy watching them. It’s night and day from last year but it’s not a championship team yet and may never be unless JB takes another huge leap, along with the expected leap Tatum takes next year or JB is traded for another legit top 10 player.

You can repeat any cliche or “it’s not the size of the dog In the fight but the size of the fight in the dog” mantra you want but it's not changing that fact.
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Post#1247 » by Scarletfire81 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 9:09 pm

Literally the last person I would ever trade is JB. He’s averaging 20/50/40. That’s very small company, I think there is only like 3 players averaging that. If you go by stats, he’s one of the most efficient players in the NBA. Why people would entertain trading him baffles me.
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Post#1248 » by chrisab123 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 9:16 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
watsonthedragon wrote:Would you guys give up a 1st for Bertans? I think he'd be a great fit off the bench.

The bigger question is will Ainge be willing to give Bertans a multiple years contract at $15 million per which is the mininum it would probably take to keep him past this year?

If the answer is No then why give up a first round pick for him?


Well if every team playing the Celtics agrees to wear Celtics jerseys vs Bertans then you're going to get an MVP caliber player. This guy owns Boston.
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Post#1249 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 9:29 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:Literally the last person I would ever trade is JB. He’s averaging 20/50/40. That’s very small company, I think there is only like 3 players averaging that. If you go by stats, he’s one of the most efficient players in the NBA. Why people would entertain trading him baffles me.


I’m with ya. To me, he’s just a superior player in almost every category to Tatum. I don’t understand what some people don’t see in Brown. The Celtics shouldn’t think of dealing any of our top 4. Craziness. Next year Tatum makes a leap. There’s a part of me that hopes Tatum doesn’t get the votes for all star. I want him to see he’s got a long way to go because he does.
But next year if we’re being realistically optimistic we have Kemba and Hayward being just as good players with Tatum and brown being better players . It’s not like Hayward and Kemba are old.
Next year we’ll be even better and a lot more options. We can trade any one of our players if some superstar suddenly emerges and then make a decision if it’s enough.
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Post#1250 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 9:31 pm

There’s a lot of fans in Boston that are saying Danny better make a deal for a big or his arse should be on the fire. Love, Adams and Drummond bring the names thrown out continuously. Hayward being the guy to go. Insanity.
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Post#1251 » by Dannyboy36 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 9:40 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
watsonthedragon wrote:Would you guys give up a 1st for Bertans? I think he'd be a great fit off the bench.

The bigger question is will Ainge be willing to give Bertans a multiple years contract at $15 million per which is the mininum it would probably take to keep him past this year?

If the answer is No then why give up a first round pick for him?


If you are a Boston sports fan you want this deal do we have s better chance at winning the east and are ok with losing a first rounder and a beat down in the finals. It would still be with it.
If you are a CELTIC fan FIRST and it needed to be a rental its always a “hell no.” ( my opinion)
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Post#1252 » by MagicBagley18 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 10:27 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:Literally the last person I would ever trade is JB. He’s averaging 20/50/40. That’s very small company, I think there is only like 3 players averaging that. If you go by stats, he’s one of the most efficient players in the NBA. Why people would entertain trading him baffles me.


never mentioned, giving him away or flashing bright neon lights that scream ''free jaylen brown''. in a perfect world he develops and he makes it sacrilegious to even think of doing so. i don;t think it's crazy to trade him for a legitimate established all star or superstar or top 15 player who can take this team to the next level and makes us legit contender.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1253 » by Marvel » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:00 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Pistons blog suggests Hayward, Kanter, Rob Williams and the MEM 1st for Drummond and Snell.. That’s a package for Towns, not Andre..

I wouldn't even do that for Towns.


That’s robbery for Towns and MIN would laugh you off the phone for that offer

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Post#1254 » by 100proof » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:03 pm

Hayward, poirier and cj miles to memphis

Soloman hill and semi to washington

Jonas, crowder and bertrans to boston.

Picks to fill gaps.

Kemba/wannamaker
Brown/smart
Crowder/bertrans
Tatum/theis
Jonas/kanter

I like that team alot.
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Post#1255 » by Marvel » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:04 pm

Our offense with Bertans? We'd be unstoppable.
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Post#1256 » by Scarletfire81 » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:11 pm

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#1257 » by GregB » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:27 pm

watsonthedragon wrote:Would you guys give up a 1st for Bertans? I think he'd be a great fit off the bench.


Sure. We will likely have 3 picks next year.

I would do something like Poirier, Semi, and Edward plus our first for Bertans. We don’t have to give up anyone up that is a major contributor and we sure up a roster weakness.
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Post#1258 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:27 pm

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What's Bertans' upside as a defender in our system?
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Post#1259 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:29 pm

Love to have Bertans but I'm not giving up Hayward for him unless Bradley Beal is also coming back to Boston.
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Post#1260 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Mon Jan 6, 2020 11:51 pm

Was working on a trade where Mr. Drummond and K Love both go to Boston with little going out. Not easy.

Not difficult to get one of them.

You replace G Williams' and Semi's minutes at power forward with Love, the team improves.



Those in the Boston front office who cry about trading away bench player Smart would be similar to Dallas when they made Rodrique Beaubois off limits in all trade talks.

Celtics have too many guards, too many shooting guards, and have no real NBA power forwards.

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