Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer?

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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#21 » by Golden Knight » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:37 pm

Stanimal wrote:If Mitch Richmond is in Hall of Fame, then Aldridge should be too.

So far (RM - LMA):

Points: about even (20,5k - 19,5k (and counting))
Playoffs points: LMA much better (449 - 1494)
Games: about even
Playoff games: LMA way more (23 - 72 (and counting) and being the best/second best player on his team)
Titles: Richmond wins (1 - 0), but he had very low impact on that one (2gms, 4 min, 1 pt playoffs in total)
All Stars: about even (6 - 7)
All League: even (6 - 6)
Win Shares: LMA again wins (79,3 + 1,2) - (111,3 + 5,5), as well as BPM and VORP.

So, LaMarcus Aldridge had (slightly) better career than Richmond and by The Mitch Richmond rule he should be in Hall of Fame.

I don't know if it's a factor but Richmond have a much "louder" game. Shooting Guard, Rookie of the Year, Dream Team III, averaged 22 ppg in his 1st 10 seasons.

Also repeating for the nth time, it's the basketball hall of fame not the NBA hall of fame. Richmond have an Olympic Bronze and Gold Medal in his resume.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#22 » by slick_watts » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:42 pm

meh. probably. is joe johnson? if you let LMA in how far behind is jermaine o'neal? i'd hope that shawn marion and amar'e stoudemire get in before lma.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#23 » by Stanimal » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:05 pm

Golden Knight wrote:I don't know if it's a factor but Richmond have a much "louder" game. Shooting Guard, Rookie of the Year, Dream Team III, averaged 22 ppg in his 1st 10 seasons.

Also repeating for the nth time, it's the basketball hall of fame not the NBA hall of fame. Richmond have an Olympic Bronze and Gold Medal in his resume.


I completely forgot that Richmond was member of USA team, probably because he didn't have key role. Aldridge is (to me) borderline HoFer (slightly ahead of Tom Chambers and Joe Johnson). But bigger problem for me is that Richmond is HoFer. He was a good player, but HoF should be just for exceptional ones.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#24 » by Golden Knight » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:11 pm

slick_watts wrote:meh. probably. is joe johnson? if you let LMA in how far behind is jermaine o'neal? i'd hope that shawn marion and amar'e stoudemire get in before lma.

O'neal doesn't have the numbers - 13K pts, 7k rebs.
Marion is at 17.7K pts, 10K rebs. Only 4 All-Stars and 2 All-NBA 3rd team but he do have an NBA championship with the Mavs.
Amare have the high peak - 1 All-NBA 1st team and 4 All-NBA 2nd team. Doesn't have the longevity - 16K pts, 6.6K rebs
Joe Johnson - 7x All-Star! Sorry i'm just not a fan of his game.
Lamarcus is currently at 19.4K pts, 8.3K rebs

BBref actually have Marion with the best odds of making the HOF at 75.6%.

Marion - 75.6%
Amare - 72.9%
LaMarcus - 51.3%
Johnson - 50.6%
O'Neal - 31.8%

fwiw, bbref have Richmond at 70% although i'm not sure if international career is factored in the probability.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#25 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:17 pm

When you watched him play, did you think you were watching a HOFer? I thought I was watching a very good player who could have played better on the defensive end. Belongs in the Hall of Very Good.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#26 » by Golden Knight » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:20 pm

Stanimal wrote:
Golden Knight wrote:I don't know if it's a factor but Richmond have a much "louder" game. Shooting Guard, Rookie of the Year, Dream Team III, averaged 22 ppg in his 1st 10 seasons.

Also repeating for the nth time, it's the basketball hall of fame not the NBA hall of fame. Richmond have an Olympic Bronze and Gold Medal in his resume.


I completely forgot that Richmond was member of USA team, probably because he didn't have key role. Aldridge is (to me) borderline HoFer (slightly ahead of Tom Chambers and Joe Johnson). But bigger problem for me is that Richmond is HoFer. He was a good player, but HoF should be just for exceptional ones.

The Dream Team III's games were all blowouts so it didn't really matter but Richmond actually played the 3rd most minutes in that team, 5th in points scored, 2nd in 3 pts made and 2nd in 3pt%.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#27 » by Cassalien » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:26 pm

Drygon wrote:Easily, yes.

By the end of LaMarcus Aldrige career, he'll have over 20k points & 10k rebounds. 18 players have achieved that in their careers, all of them are in the HOF or will be getting in soon enough. Never mind that he's 7x All-Star & 5x All-NBA.

Mitch Richmond is in with 6x All-Star, 5x All-Nba, 20,497 pts, a career high of 47 pts, and a grand total of 23 playoff games.

KGtabake wrote:Nah. He needs team success.


Eh, countless of ringless all-time greats have made into Hall of Fame.

Oh god please no... though everyone seems to get in these days according to realgm
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#28 » by Slim Charlez » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:05 pm

Gooner wrote:
Baski wrote:If Bosh gets in then he should too


Bosh is a 2 time champion, Aldridge is not on that level.


That's all due to circumstances. LMA could've easily filled Bosh's role on Miami. The only thing Bosh has over him is shooting, and LMA has been fire from deep the last couple of months or so. So yeah he's definitely at that level.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#29 » by OdomFan » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:15 pm

Drygon wrote:
OdomFan wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Bosh is a 2 time champion, Aldridge is not on that level.


Bosh won 2 championships by joining up with Wade and Lebron though. So I wouldn't call that an argument to put him individually above the level of Aldridge.


Without Bosh, Miami Heat would've probably only have 1 Championship (2012)

Not discrediting Bosh at all. I'm just saying that I believe Larmarcus has been just as talented/skilled. They're both Hall of Famers imo.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#30 » by Gooner » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:29 pm

Slim Charlez wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Baski wrote:If Bosh gets in then he should too


Bosh is a 2 time champion, Aldridge is not on that level.


That's all due to circumstances. LMA could've easily filled Bosh's role on Miami. The only thing Bosh has over him is shooting, and LMA has been fire from deep the last couple of months or so. So yeah he's definitely at that level.


What about defense? Bosh was the key component for them, trapping the ball handler and covering so much ground. It's not that easy to be a third option on a championship wnning team. We can speak hypothetically about Aldridge being able to do it, but we haven't seen it.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#31 » by Chinook » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:28 pm

Aldridge is a good defender. He's been really good his whole time in SA. People talk like he's Al Jefferson or something.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#32 » by celtics543 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:33 pm

He'll get in but only because they seem to let everyone in.

All I know is I've been a fan of basketball throughout his entire career and not once did I ever say "Oh man we're playing against Alrdridge tonight, he might beat us by himself"
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#33 » by johanliebert » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:36 pm

celtics543 wrote:He'll get in but only because they seem to let everyone in.

All I know is I've been a fan of basketball throughout his entire career and not once did I ever say "Oh man we're playing against Alrdridge tonight, he might beat us by himself"


His game is boring thats why people say nonsense like this. when you look at his numbers he's going to be a hof'er easily.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#34 » by Slim Charlez » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:39 pm

Gooner wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Bosh is a 2 time champion, Aldridge is not on that level.


That's all due to circumstances. LMA could've easily filled Bosh's role on Miami. The only thing Bosh has over him is shooting, and LMA has been fire from deep the last couple of months or so. So yeah he's definitely at that level.


What about defense? Bosh was the key component for them, trapping the ball handler and covering so much ground. It's not that easy to be a third option on a championship wnning team. We can speak hypothetically about Aldridge being able to do it, but we haven't seen it.


He's always been an underrated defender. He maybe has never been as mobile as Bosh but he's still no slouch guarding the perimeter especially in his Blazer days when he was a little faster, his length also makes him a very capable rim protector.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#35 » by Slim Charlez » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:42 pm

johanliebert wrote:
celtics543 wrote:He'll get in but only because they seem to let everyone in.

All I know is I've been a fan of basketball throughout his entire career and not once did I ever say "Oh man we're playing against Alrdridge tonight, he might beat us by himself"


His game is boring thats why people say nonsense like this. when you look at his numbers he's going to be a hof'er easily.


I think he might be the most underrated player of his era. People talk about him like he's Greg Monroe or something when in fact he's lead teams to the playoffs multiple times in Portland and the last two years in San Antonio. He's had some fantastic offensive performances in the playoffs as well. Just a victim of his "boring" game and his lack of charisma really.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#36 » by CIN-C-STAR » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:45 pm

Yes for sure Hall of Famer. 20 & 8 for a decade and a half is no joke!
Agree with the poster above that he has a "boring" game, more skill than raw athleticism, that isn't conducive to highlights, and he has a low-key personality to boot. For those reasons he's under the radar to a lot of fans.
But those things shouldn't be held against people when it comes to HoF consideration imo.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#37 » by AI_Efficiency » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:45 pm

He's almost certainly a lock. There are not many players with 7x all star appearances that are not in. I also think anyone who ever had 6 all-nba awards is in and according to OP, Aldridge has 5. Would be shocked if he didn't get in.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#38 » by Baski » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:50 pm

Gooner wrote:
Baski wrote:If Bosh gets in then he should too


Bosh is a 2 time champion, Aldridge is not on that level.

I don't think there's much between them as players. Not gonna go into team situation stuff as Bosh had a great career himself. They're similar tier players in my book.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#39 » by drosereturn » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:23 pm

Portland LMA was just a beast. As good as Bosh was, you could replace with LMA and still get the same result.
One of the few guys I cannot believe the Bulls missed out drafting him which haunted them for a decade.
If surrounded by a great roster, he could win as a number 2 option or maybe even number 1 similar to Dirk.
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Re: Is LaMarcus Aldridge a Hall of Famer? 

Post#40 » by celtics543 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:53 am

johanliebert wrote:
celtics543 wrote:He'll get in but only because they seem to let everyone in.

All I know is I've been a fan of basketball throughout his entire career and not once did I ever say "Oh man we're playing against Alrdridge tonight, he might beat us by himself"


His game is boring thats why people say nonsense like this. when you look at his numbers he's going to be a hof'er easily.


You could be right and I just don't know enough about Lamarcus Aldridge, doing a quick look he's a 7x all star and 5x All NBA guy. That seems like enough to get in, it would just be easier if he had some big moments on a big stage.

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