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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#921 » by Red Larrivee » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:17 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:This just sucks all around. It almost feels like the league is punishing the Bulls.


Well, we're a bad team. Outside of Zach dunking, we don't have any players that a worldwide audience is curious to see.

Maybe Coby gets into the Rising Stars as a replacement, but I'm not surprised he didn't make the initial list.



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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#922 » by DASMACKDOWN » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:48 pm

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DASMACKDOWN wrote:This just sucks all around. It almost feels like the league is punishing the Bulls.


Well, we're a bad team. Outside of Zach dunking, we don't have any players that a worldwide audience is curious to see.

Maybe Coby gets into the Rising Stars as a replacement, but I'm not surprised he didn't make the initial list.



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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#923 » by MrSparkle » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:56 pm

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MAQ wrote:Yeah Derrick is doing the skills comp.

Coby better be the injury replacement for WCJ. For 4 different reasons.

Need word in Zion and the dunk contest. He said no but that was back in June.


Wendell got replaced with Zion.

I dont know about anyone else, but it is utter disrespect to have the allstar game in a top 3 market of the league and the league refusing to place players from that said team in any events.

Zach didnt make the allstar team.
Wendell is hurt and wont be the Rising stars game.
Coby certainly could have made it in Wendell's place but the league wants Zion. I agree but not in Wendells place.

This just sucks all around. It almost feels like the league is punishing the Bulls.


Leaving Coby off is pretty harsh. Coby has hot and cold, but in the grand scheme, I would've punted one of the three Hornets guys, and the guy I'd leave off is Miles Bridges since he's actually regressed and pretty close statistically to Coby. He's better than a few of the World Team reserves, and obviously more talented.

But honestly, like with Zach... you can't look at the ASG rosters and cry "outrage!" Coby's season stats are absolutely miserable: 36.6% FG on high volume (21.8 FGA per 100 possessions, holy hell - Lillard is at 25 per 100 poss), 2.1 APG and 1.5 TOV. The kid has a long road ahead of him if he wants to be a quality starter or 6th man. Graham and PJ from CHA have been significantly better.

And then you notice that Colin Sexton is off as well. IMO coaches just aren't buying into the high-volume, low efficiency, empty calorie shooters. These guys need to expand their vision and efficiency on the offensive end; we aren't even talking about defense.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#924 » by The Force. » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:01 pm

The Bulls basically suck. N%o one on our team is really that good and that includes Zach and Coby.

The league isn't just going to just gift us a reserve spot as well they shouldn't.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#925 » by DASMACKDOWN » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:03 pm

The all-star team needs to be more than 12 players in each conference...
The format for the rising stars definitely needs to change as well. At first it was rookies vs soph but now its USA vs World. Since there are far more US players and very limited great World players, it hurts the US players far more.

Like I would be mad I were Colin Sexton or Michael Porter Jr. The league just flip flops on what they deem important. One year who cares what the team record is for allstars. The next just records are important.

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#926 » by Red Larrivee » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:46 pm

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DASMACKDOWN wrote:This just sucks all around. It almost feels like the league is punishing the Bulls.


Well, we're a bad team. Outside of Zach dunking, we don't have any players that a worldwide audience is curious to see.

Maybe Coby gets into the Rising Stars as a replacement, but I'm not surprised he didn't make the initial list.



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Graham, Washington, and Bridges have all been better than White.

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#927 » by dice » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:05 pm

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What's the connection to #2?


Answering myself, I think it was giannia's number

glad they didn't include prior jersey numbers (#8 and whatever gianna used to be before #2)
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#928 » by dice » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:09 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:The all-star team needs to be more than 12 players in each conference

seriously? you want the east honor to become even MORE diluted?

if anything, i'd go down to 10 per team. certainly don't need 3rd stringers in an exhibition

20 all-stars regardless of conference (which nobody has any loyalty to), captains choose their teams live before the game

The format for the rising stars definitely needs to change as well. At first it was rookies vs soph but now its USA vs World. Since there are far more US players and very limited great World players, it hurts the US players far more.

eh, people might actually care about US vs world. it's interesting at least. and it produces a genuine competitive pride element. the world team would take pride in beating the USA team, for sure

The league just flip flops on what they deem important. One year who cares what the team record is for allstars. The next just records are important.

the league is not dictating to the coaches what they should deem important in choosing all-stars. i'm quite sure that being part of a winning team has always at least been a tie-breaking factor. it's natural. just as it's natural for coaches to choose the kind of player that they would want to coach as opposed to high-flying scorers who fans might want to see more
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#929 » by dice » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:21 pm

media talking heads complaining that ja morant should have gotten in over brandon ingram ("morant is on a winning team!"), apparently not understanding that a ingram is a forward and that a guard would have to be removed for morant to get in
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#930 » by DASMACKDOWN » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 pm

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Well, we're a bad team. Outside of Zach dunking, we don't have any players that a worldwide audience is curious to see.

Maybe Coby gets into the Rising Stars as a replacement, but I'm not surprised he didn't make the initial list.



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Graham, Washington, and Bridges have all been better than White.

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The fact that you said that is proving my point. The NBA likes to move requirements to meet a narrative. So now its based on who is better? Then why isnt Saxton in? Someone said that Bridges was put on because he didnt get in last year when they hosted the game. So he gets the BS vote.

So you know its politics.

Heck, do you even think Vince Carter is going to get gifted an allstar spot like Adam Silver did last year for Wade and Dirk? Its why its BS. If the criteria was consistent people wouldnt get mad about it.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#931 » by Red Larrivee » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:45 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
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Well convince me how the Charlotte Hornets deserved 3 representatives.


Graham, Washington, and Bridges have all been better than White.

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The fact that you said that is proving my point. The NBA likes to move requirements to meet a narrative. So now its based on who is better? Then why isnt Saxton in? Someone said that Bridges was put on because he didnt get in last year when they hosted the game. So he gets the BS vote.

So you know its politics.

Heck, do you even think Vince Carter is going to get gifted an allstar spot like Adam Silver did last year for Wade and Dirk? Its why its BS. If the criteria was consistent people wouldnt get mad about it.


Ultimately, Carter got in on his production. I don't think the NBAs voting is consistently good, but I don't see an issue with them leaving LaVine out or White not being in the Rising Stars.

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#932 » by DASMACKDOWN » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:57 pm

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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#933 » by dice » Sat Feb 1, 2020 6:02 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
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Well convince me how the Charlotte Hornets deserved 3 representatives.


Graham, Washington, and Bridges have all been better than White.

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The fact that you said that is proving my point. The NBA likes to move requirements to meet a narrative. So now its based on who is better? Then why isnt Saxton in?

sexton is a guard who does nothing other than score fairly well. the 5 guards that made the team were herro, graham, morant, nunn and trae. the only one that sexton has an argument over is herro

Someone said that Bridges was put on because he didnt get in last year when they hosted the game. So he gets the BS vote.

So you know its politics.

*headslap*

if it was politics bridges would have gotten in last year when charlotte hosted!

and bridges became a starter...immediately after all-star weekend. he was averaging 6 points a game as a reserve

Heck, do you even think Vince Carter is going to get gifted an allstar spot like Adam Silver did last year for Wade and Dirk? Its why its BS. If the criteria was consistent people wouldnt get mad about it.

vince carter has not had the career that dirk and wade had. it's not like carter is disliked, so there's no reason that he should be excluded for political reasons
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#934 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Sat Feb 1, 2020 6:32 am

Lillard...wow
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#935 » by R3AL1TY » Sat Feb 1, 2020 6:35 am

Damian Lillard has now made the most 3s in a 5 game span (40).
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#936 » by CjayC » Sat Feb 1, 2020 7:39 am

Lillard showed that Mamba mentality tonight. He was fearless.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#937 » by dumbell78 » Sat Feb 1, 2020 8:43 am

Lillard just might be my favorite player in the league. I love his attitude, demeanor, plays hard, never bitches about anything, and straight up rips it up.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#938 » by AKfanatic » Sat Feb 1, 2020 9:08 am

dumbell78 wrote:Lillard just might be my favorite player in the league. I love his attitude, demeanor, plays hard, never bitches about anything, and straight up rips it up.


Lillard, Giannis, and Jimmy are 3 dudes I absolutely love as players. All 3 have a lot of “old school” in their attitudes and really just bring it to whoever they face.

Morant and Luka are two young guns that have that nice edge to their games too.

Lillard though, dude just goes....as you said “never bitches” regardless of the load he needs to carry to drag the Blazers to victory. While I don’t wish for injuries to any player, one thing that’s come from Steph being out in the West is Lillard getting a bit more of a spotlight as a great point guard. He’s always been great and true fans have known it, but for the general public he’s always been overshadowed by Steph, Paul, Westbrook (undeservingly)....

Dame is an absolute beast. It’s a shame Aldridge couldn’t handle a new role and seemed threatened by Dame being the man in Portland, he really harmed his chances at a few special seasons.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#939 » by DASMACKDOWN » Sat Feb 1, 2020 2:21 pm

The problem with Portland is they keep overachieving every year. They are on paper far worse than their record most seasons. But this year they generally are sort of rated where they should be.

But I wouldn't be surprised again that they go on some long winning streak at the end of the year and get like a 7th seed.

Which means for Dame and Portland, they will never be true contenders. Just a nice team that gets bounced out in the first round seemingly every other year.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2019-20 Season #2 

Post#940 » by Mech Engineer » Sat Feb 1, 2020 3:00 pm

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dumbell78 wrote:Lillard just might be my favorite player in the league. I love his attitude, demeanor, plays hard, never bitches about anything, and straight up rips it up.


Lillard, Giannis, and Jimmy are 3 dudes I absolutely love as players. All 3 have a lot of “old school” in their attitudes and really just bring it to whoever they face.

Morant and Luka are two young guns that have that nice edge to their games too.

Lillard though, dude just goes....as you said “never bitches” regardless of the load he needs to carry to drag the Blazers to victory. While I don’t wish for injuries to any player, one thing that’s come from Steph being out in the West is Lillard getting a bit more of a spotlight as a great point guard. He’s always been great and true fans have known it, but for the general public he’s always been overshadowed by Steph, Paul, Westbrook (undeservingly)....

Dame is an absolute beast. It’s a shame Aldridge couldn’t handle a new role and seemed threatened by Dame being the man in Portland, he really harmed his chances at a few special seasons.


Aldridge didn't realize the game has moved away from the big man and he was used to being the top option plus he also thought a winning organization at that stage of his career was the best choice. It was a very unfortunate turn for Aldridge.

And, Portland is another team which keeps drafting great players but can never seem to put together sustaining great teams. They must be the unluckiest franchise in the NBA. If any fanbase, front office needs to whine about injuries, it's them. The list never ends for what it could have been with them.

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