MrOrange wrote:Zenzibar wrote:MrOrange wrote:Explain to me, what are the long-term net gains? Dumping salaries for an imagined cap space? Because I see no other gain in this trade. No sane big time player will come to NYK in this awful atmosphere, under this management or with this owner. Partially because the franchise is being mismanaged by 2 fools and partially because no sane big star black man is coming to Dolan's team when Dolan is funding Trump's campaigns. (This aspect is under-discussed on this board, btw) With this front office, you may draft the next MJ yet you will not notice. because he will be benched and underdeveloped. I am in here because I still love the Knicks and wish NYK well. A certain fantom feeling. But don't **** on KP when it is undue.
Haha fund campaigns?. I bet you that at least 97% of the owners do, and how do you know that even MJ doesn't contribute to Trump's campaign. MJ is a billionaire with capital gains that for that range is making buukuu dollars right now with all the tax breaks.
While some players don't want the bright lights, there have been others that once they come to NY, don't want to leave regardless who's running the team.
Also I still haven't understood your "sane big black man" part of your post.
What is not to understand? Many folks in this business are highly opinionated on many political, racial, social, etc. issues. KD , LBJ, you name it, Kobe (God bless his soul) have been quite outspoken on many of that. Do you really think that nobody noticed that Dolan has/is funding DT's campaigns? None of my business anyway, I am not American, but isn't it right? I could even bet my morgage that players know and follow this ****.
THJr sucks. He has a good game occasionally. Obviously the Knicks asked him to do too much after overpaying him. Glad he's gone.
KP isn't all that and we have 3 years+ years to judge it on. Is he awful? No. He's "decent". He's a volume shooter in a 7'3 body with a stretch PF game, emphasis on stretch and not on "power"
I would have been fine if he stayed but probably aggravated the Knicks had to max a 3rd option for 5 years to do it. Since they didn't, I'm glad.
Did the Knicks use the cap space wisely this year? Not at all. At least in 2 years they'll have "two max cats" cap space again. In fact, they could have had it next year, but Steve Mills got an erection for the latest iteration of a THJr player in Julius Randle. There is some small comfort in the fact he only gave him 2 years (and a tiny bit of money in year 3 that doesn't count) vs 4 years. I'd assume that was the tempering influence of Scott Perry.
I'd HOPED that when this was done (this was before FA) that with the cap space cleared, a HEALTHY KD and Kyrie would come. When that didn't happen, I HOPED they'd stick to one year contracts again (I've since reconsidered if this is wise) and assemble an "ok" team.
What's happened is obviously not that. As noted, Mills had to have his "project star" guy again, and Perry doesn't know how to assemble a basketball team. Or both or them. Whatever. Also what is clear is that Mr Freckly Resting Bitch Face has a HUGE EGO, and is determined to show the rest of the NBA what a great "talent evaluation" guy he is by constantly picking up guys he had some affiliation with. Obviously it's bad news, because all the guys he picks just aren't that good and it seems to me that it indicates he ultimately doesn't trust the guys who scout the NBA for the team or just respects his own opinion more each time. Or that the scouts suck. Any of those is bad news.
In a nutshell, I could see a good organization deciding the pull the trigger on a KP trade and I can understand why the Knicks might have done it. And the Knicks suck. Happy?
All the cap space, all the great draft that NYK acquired from Mavs 
