Bye bye Harkless, hello Morris AND Thomas????

Kelphus · Post #1 » by **Kelphus** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:07 pm

How did the office pull this one off?

Rental of Morris AND Isiah Thomas too? For Harkless and a draft pick?

Kelphus · Post #2 » by **Kelphus** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:08 pm

reports are Thomas won't be a Clipper for long.....

MartinToVaught · Post #3 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:13 pm

I'm amazed we were able to keep Fi and Mann after all.

Post #4 » by **TrueLAfan** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:20 pm

IT is going to be waived. That means we gave up Harkless, Rome, and Walton for Morris. Look for at least one pickup from the buyout market, probably starting with a PG.

Mistwell · Post #5 » by **Mistwell** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:34 pm

TrueLAfan wrote:IT is going to be waived. That means we gave up Harkless, Rome, and Walton for Morris. Look for at least one pickup from the buyout market, probably starting with a PG.

As far as I can tell, JRob had nothing to do with this deal. We dump him just to free up a roster spot and get under the luxury tax threshold.

TheNewEra · Post #6 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:38 pm

Mistwell wrote:
TrueLAfan wrote:IT is going to be waived. That means we gave up Harkless, Rome, and Walton for Morris. Look for at least one pickup from the buyout market, probably starting with a PG.

As far as I can tell, JRob had nothing to do with this deal. We dump him just to free up a roster spot and get under the luxury tax threshold.

The money didn’t work straight up for Morris and Harkless so it was Jerome or the rookies. Front office came up clutch with the Wizards still being interested in Robinson so we worked a three way trade

TheNewEra · Post #7 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:39 pm

Also worked out well as Harrell insurance if he walks

Stannis · Post #8 » by **Stannis** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 9:41 pm

A little pissed you guys wouldn't give up Shamet. But this isn't a bad deal, considering we just signed Morris to a 1 year deal last summer.

Good luck.

Morris is tough as nails. He's been killing it from 3. And can be a scoring force. Sometimes he had a tendency to hold the ball too long though. But if he's playing with Kawhi instead of Randle, I think he might give it up a little easier.

Post #9 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 10:28 pm

Does this open up a minute or 2 for Mann?

Kelphus · Post #10 » by **Kelphus** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 10:35 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Does this open up a minute or 2 for Mann?

Yeah, and what about Motley???? :roll:

TheNewEra · Post #11 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 10:57 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Does this open up a minute or 2 for Mann?

It does if Beverly misses time because we had to play Robinson during those stretches

TheNewEra · Post #12 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 10:58 pm

Stannis wrote:A little pissed you guys wouldn't give up Shamet. But this isn't a bad deal, considering we just signed Morris to a 1 year deal last summer.

Good luck.

Morris is tough as nails. He's been killing it from 3. And can be a scoring force. Sometimes he had a tendency to hold the ball too long though. But if he's playing with Kawhi instead of Randle, I think he might give it up a little easier.

When Kuzma was known to be off the table I don’t think they had the force to put pressure on the clips. The Knicks wanted to move on from him

Young Sterling · Post #13 » by **Young Sterling** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 11:28 pm

Stannis wrote:A little pissed you guys wouldn't give up Shamet. But this isn't a bad deal, considering we just signed Morris to a 1 year deal last summer.

Good luck.

Morris is tough as nails. He's been killing it from 3. And can be a scoring force. Sometimes he had a tendency to hold the ball too long though. But if he's playing with Kawhi instead of Randle, I think he might give it up a little easier.

How's Mook's defense? I know it's not elite, but is he going to be a liability or able to guard some elite 4/5s?

clipperlover · Post #14 » by **clipperlover** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:14 am

Clippers have announced the Walton deal, but have not yet made an official announcement on the Morris/Thomas deal.

Only Aldridge is reporting Thomas getting waived. The guy knows jack squat about what the Clippers are doing, If it isn't Woj, it is hard to trust.

clipperlover · Post #15 » by **clipperlover** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:15 am

The Walton deal makes no sense from an Atlanta perspective. I am reading we traded him to Atlanta for a 2nd round pick and cash. Atlanta then put him on waivers.

MartinToVaught · Post #16 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:40 am

clipperlover wrote:Clippers have announced the Walton deal, but have not yet made an official announcement on the Morris/Thomas deal.

I assume it's the same deal as free agency where the league office is slowly working through the different transactions before they can be announced. Other trades, like the Andre Drummond trade, haven't been officially announced either.

Mistwell · Post #17 » by **Mistwell** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:48 am

clipperlover wrote:The Walton deal makes no sense from an Atlanta perspective. I am reading we traded him to Atlanta for a 2nd round pick and cash. Atlanta then put him on waivers.

We gave them more cash than Walton makes, and they waive him, so they make some money for doing basically nothing. There is no "real" second round pick. The restrictions on it make it so they it will never be sent. So in essence we gave Atlanta cash to help us clear a roster spot.

Now the question is...why? Why did we feel the need to clear another roster spot? I don't see how it's related to the Morris trade. In that trade we sent two players and received two players, so we didn't need another roster spot open.

Do we have another player in mind to pick up with that spot? Collison?

esqtvd · Post #18 » by **esqtvd** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:50 am

clipperlover wrote:The Walton deal makes no sense from an Atlanta perspective. I am reading we traded him to Atlanta for a 2nd round pick and cash. Atlanta then put him on waivers.

I believe we gave them the cash [$1.3M, I saw somewhere] for taking Walton off our hands and clearing cap space for us. They pay off the rest of his contract of about $600K [they have cap space] and keep the rest of the dough. This is the sort of clever move we pay Winger and all those FO dudes to gin up.

The 2nd rounder was conditional--you have to trade something of value, even if it's the rights to Cenk Akyol*--but since they cut Walton it will never be conveyed.

ADD: The pick is Top 55-protected, which could be the reason instead that's it's not expected to be conveyed.

Read on Twitter

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*LOL--Cenk Akyol has never played in the NBA but has been traded 5 times!!

June 28, 2005: Drafted by the Atlanta Hawks in the 2nd round (59th pick) of the 2005 NBA Draft.

February 20, 2014: Traded by the Atlanta Hawks to the Los Angeles Clippers for Antawn Jamison and cash.

January 7, 2015: Traded by the Los Angeles Clippers with Jared Cunningham to the Philadelphia 76ers for Sergei Lishouk. (LAC also sends cash considerations to PHI)

February 19, 2015: Traded by the Philadelphia 76ers with cash to the Denver Nuggets for Chukwudiebere Maduabum, JaVale McGee and a 2016 1st round draft pick (Furkan Korkmaz was later selected).

January 18, 2017: Traded by the Denver Nuggets with $2.2M trade exception to the Atlanta Hawks for Mo Williams and cash considerations.

February 23, 2017: Traded by the Atlanta Hawks with Mike Scott and cash considerations to the Phoenix Suns for a 2017 2nd round draft pick. (Pick was top-55 protected and did not convey)

MartinToVaught · Post #19 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 1:57 am

Officially official:

Read on Twitter

No mention of Isaiah anywhere in the promotional material, which would appear to support the news that he's being waived.

nedleeds · Post #20 » by **nedleeds** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:01 am

Young Sterling wrote:
Stannis wrote:A little pissed you guys wouldn't give up Shamet. But this isn't a bad deal, considering we just signed Morris to a 1 year deal last summer.

Good luck.

Morris is tough as nails. He's been killing it from 3. And can be a scoring force. Sometimes he had a tendency to hold the ball too long though. But if he's playing with Kawhi instead of Randle, I think he might give it up a little easier.

How's Mook's defense? I know it's not elite, but is he going to be a liability or able to guard some elite 4/5s?

This is probably all you need to know:
"Morris has been the nearest defender on 123 shots by LeBron over last 5 seasons, including playoffs, most in that span. He’s held LeBron to 42% shooting, 4th-lowest in the league (min. 50 FG)."

He played no defense in New York because our coaching is trash and there was zero accountability with the mercenary vets.