greekbuck34 wrote:Infinite Llamas wrote:SeniorWalker wrote:I need some convincing that Jokic is the better offensive player. He may very well be more skilled in some areas but that alone does not mean he is more effective offensively. Giannis commands 5 players everytime he steps in the paint and still scores anyway at a very high clip. PER isnt a great modern stat but it is indicative of overall raw offensive contributions and Giannis right now has the highest of all time.
Just my opinion. Giannis may become the better offensive player but I see some flaws when I watch him. No I’m between game. Poor free throw shooter. Bad shot mechanics. Good but not great court vision. I still sense some hesitation in him at times too.
I’m not saying that he isn’t a fantastic player because he is, but these are just my observations. Jokic has no real weaknesses on offense. He can beat you in so many ways and not just with his shot but his vision.
What was that Sean Bean line from the first show of Game of Thrones? “A mad man sees what he sees”. Maybe I’m mad, but this is just what I see.
If Jokic has no real weaknesses and is unstoppable why then he doesn't average 30 points per 30 minutes on better efficiency and/or lead a top 2 offense in the NBA with his passing, presence and gravity?
He is 20ppg player for the second season in a row and the Nuggets have the 10th best offense and he doesn't even give 1/4 of the effort of Giannis on defense on top of that.
I never used the word unstoppable. The thing is, Jokic is a pass first guy and that means he will trust his teammates no matter what. Gary Harris shot 0-13 last night and Jokic kept feeding him. He doesn’t call his own number unless he sees it as the biggest advantage for his team. Of course Giannis will have higher per 30 numbers. His Usage % is over ten points higher than Jokic...and yes, Giannis makes efficient work with these possessions but he’s also cramming about 35-38 minutes of a workload into 30 minutes. He gets hacked a lot, relies on a lot of quick moves to get to the rim...he takes a pounding every game and it’s logical to wonder if he will wear down with more minutes in a tough playoff matchup. Jokic paces himself because that’s how he can play big minutes and still be so effective.
Call me a fool all you like, but these discourse posts of y’all explaining why Giannis is mvp are a lot more worthwhile than the usual “let’s call it now” “Giannis and the rest ain’t even close” “Giannis just running away with it”...