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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#101 » by Chris76 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:08 pm

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the_process wrote:I'm all for moving that Harris contract for more functional players.

Horford can't be making 27 off the bench, either. And he cannot start on this roster as is.

I agree that Horford can't be a $27M bench player. The Sixers will never win anything while their 4 highest paid players can't share the court together. That said I would move Horford first due to 1) his age and 2) his lack of spacing. That will require adding some incentives, which will suck.

With their cap space situation and dearth of tradeable assets, the Sixers better pray that one of their low-mid tier picks develops into a reliable starter.


Sixers need Horford this year, not many bigs.

Horford is more productive without Embiid. Hopefully Simmons with a fresh Embiid and then a fresh Horford for most of the game could be very good.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#102 » by youngcrev » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:15 pm

If this team flames out like we're kind of expecting, I think you clean house in the front office/coaching staff, and tear the roster down to the foundation of Embiid/Simmons. Go get the best playmaking/scoring guard you can find, and surround them with shooters. It's insane how sideways this thing got with two studs and a million assets in place. And the league ain't getting any easier next year with Brooklyn getting KD/Kyrie back, the Warriors getting Steph/Klay, the LA teams and MIL likely adding more pieces via free agency.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#103 » by youngcrev » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:22 pm

Jkam31 wrote:If we took Horford/Harris contract would we able able to get Thybull? Something like Barnes, Joseph, Holmes, Bjlecia for those 3


Probably not. Barnes and Joseph don't exactly have pretty contracts themselves. Horford/Harris have ugly deals, but they're also the best 2 players in the trade.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#104 » by youngcrev » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:03 pm

Jkam31 wrote:If we took Horford/Harris contract would we able able to get Thybull? Something like Barnes, Joseph, Holmes, Bjlecia for those 3


What do you think it would take to get Buddy? Think he'll be available if the team looks to re-sign Bogdanovic?
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Post#105 » by Iscull » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:47 pm

What are the odds we could we use Richardson and his expiring to get rid of Horford this offseason? Not sure who we’d go after - likely a guard with at least a year or two left and a big who combine for ~$37MM (Horford 2020 = $27.5mm | JRich = $10.8MM).
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Post#106 » by Iscull » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:15 pm

Iscull wrote:What are the odds we could we use Richardson and his expiring to get rid of Horford this offseason? Not sure who we’d go after - likely a guard with at least a year or two left and a big who combine for ~$37MM (Horford 2020 = $27.5mm | JRich = $10.8MM).


After looking at the cap numbers, not a ton of options out there (Realistic or not). Throwing two below that came to mind that I don't think would be absolutely terrible:

Chicago: LaVine ($19.5MM) + Thad Young ($13.45MM)
Why Chicago: Assuming we have to send picks to help their rebuild. LaVine gets out of Chicago (If he forces a trade somehow) and in return they get a young combo guard off an expiring. Additionally, they get a solid veteran big, with another who can help their locker room.
Why Philly: Upgrade the SG position. Replace Horford's contract with a big on a much better contract. Simmons / LaVine / Mattisse / Harris / Embiid with Young, Scott, Kork, and Smith off the bench. To me - it feels like a better fit.

Charlotte: Terry ($18.9MM) + Zeller ($15.4MM)
Why CHA: Imrpoves at the guard position, gets out of the Terry contract, and gets a vet to help build there team around once the Batum contract expires.
Why Philly: Gets out of Horford's contract and replaces with expiring big. Replaces JRich with a more traditioanl PG who can shoot.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#107 » by youngcrev » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:12 pm

Iscull wrote:What are the odds we could we use Richardson and his expiring to get rid of Horford this offseason? Not sure who we’d go after - likely a guard with at least a year or two left and a big who combine for ~$37MM (Horford 2020 = $27.5mm | JRich = $10.8MM).


Probably not realistic, but I'd throw an offer of Horford/Richardson/picks at New Orleans for Jrue and Redick.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#108 » by Foshan » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:38 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Iscull wrote:What are the odds we could we use Richardson and his expiring to get rid of Horford this offseason? Not sure who we’d go after - likely a guard with at least a year or two left and a big who combine for ~$37MM (Horford 2020 = $27.5mm | JRich = $10.8MM).


Probably not realistic, but I'd throw an offer of Horford/Richardson/picks at New Orleans for Jrue and Redick.

Or to Portland for CJ
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#109 » by the_process » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:39 am

Would you do Horford, Harris, Richardson, the OKC 1st/future 2nds, and a 2023 unprotected 1st for Beal and Wall?
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Post#110 » by Iscull » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:08 pm

the_process wrote:Would you do Horford, Harris, Richardson, the OKC 1st/future 2nds, and a 2023 unprotected 1st for Beal and Wall?


That Wall contract is so bad - prefer Horford and Harris.
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Post#111 » by 51X3RF4N » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:06 pm

I truly think the future of this team hinges on how well the young bench guys develop.

Shake, Thybulle, Korkmaz and Zhaire could all turn into rotation pieces in the playoffs down the line in their careers. I'm not sure any of them are 100% ready for that this season.

But imagine a world where Embiid, Harris and Simmons are surrounded by 4 young players who have various skill sets that complement them, can all catch and shoot, can mostly all defend, positionally can fit each of them into 2 of the other 3 starting spots...

Ben/Shake/Thybulle/Harris/Embiid

Ben/Shake/Korkmaz/Harris/Embiid

Ben/Shake/Zhaire/Harris/Embiid

Ben/Thybulle/Korkmaz/Harris/Embiid

Ben/Zhaire/Thybulle/Harris/Embiid

Ben/Zhaire/Korkmaz/Harris/Embiid

Literally every one of those lineups can work from a fit standpoint. If these guys can all develop into their roles and build chemistry with our big 3, then I think it takes this team to the next level in terms of long term dynasty.

Where the Sixers should be focusing their attention is the backup PF role and the backup PG role. Horford is around for the long haul at backup C, I just don't see a world where he is traded.

So if you look to trade Richardson because you feel good about the aforementioned 4 young guys being able to fill Richardson's role, the focus should be on finding a team looking to upgrade to a starter from 2 bench level guys at PF and PG.
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C- Embiid/?
PF- ?/?
SF- ?/?
SG- ?/?
PG- ?/?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#112 » by the_process » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:43 pm

If Minny can add a 1st and a 2nd to Andrew Wiggins and come away with D'Angelo Russell... the Sixers will be able to move Horford. I'm thinking he's going to quietly request a trade after the playoffs, anyway.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#113 » by the_process » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:48 pm

Iscull wrote:
Iscull wrote:What are the odds we could we use Richardson and his expiring to get rid of Horford this offseason? Not sure who we’d go after - likely a guard with at least a year or two left and a big who combine for ~$37MM (Horford 2020 = $27.5mm | JRich = $10.8MM).


After looking at the cap numbers, not a ton of options out there (Realistic or not). Throwing two below that came to mind that I don't think would be absolutely terrible:

Chicago: LaVine ($19.5MM) + Thad Young ($13.45MM)
Why Chicago: Assuming we have to send picks to help their rebuild. LaVine gets out of Chicago (If he forces a trade somehow) and in return they get a young combo guard off an expiring. Additionally, they get a solid veteran big, with another who can help their locker room.
Why Philly: Upgrade the SG position. Replace Horford's contract with a big on a much better contract. Simmons / LaVine / Mattisse / Harris / Embiid with Young, Scott, Kork, and Smith off the bench. To me - it feels like a better fit.

Charlotte: Terry ($18.9MM) + Zeller ($15.4MM)
Why CHA: Imrpoves at the guard position, gets out of the Terry contract, and gets a vet to help build there team around once the Batum contract expires.
Why Philly: Gets out of Horford's contract and replaces with expiring big. Replaces JRich with a more traditioanl PG who can shoot.


JRich and Horford for Thad and LaVine is a yes from Philly but the Bulls turn that down IMO.

CHA jumps all over JRich and Horford for Rozier and Zeller, but that's gross for Philly IMO.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#114 » by Iscull » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:46 am

the_process wrote:
Iscull wrote:
Iscull wrote:What are the odds we could we use Richardson and his expiring to get rid of Horford this offseason? Not sure who we’d go after - likely a guard with at least a year or two left and a big who combine for ~$37MM (Horford 2020 = $27.5mm | JRich = $10.8MM).


After looking at the cap numbers, not a ton of options out there (Realistic or not). Throwing two below that came to mind that I don't think would be absolutely terrible:

Chicago: LaVine ($19.5MM) + Thad Young ($13.45MM)
Why Chicago: Assuming we have to send picks to help their rebuild. LaVine gets out of Chicago (If he forces a trade somehow) and in return they get a young combo guard off an expiring. Additionally, they get a solid veteran big, with another who can help their locker room.
Why Philly: Upgrade the SG position. Replace Horford's contract with a big on a much better contract. Simmons / LaVine / Mattisse / Harris / Embiid with Young, Scott, Kork, and Smith off the bench. To me - it feels like a better fit.

Charlotte: Terry ($18.9MM) + Zeller ($15.4MM)
Why CHA: Imrpoves at the guard position, gets out of the Terry contract, and gets a vet to help build there team around once the Batum contract expires.
Why Philly: Gets out of Horford's contract and replaces with expiring big. Replaces JRich with a more traditioanl PG who can shoot.


JRich and Horford for Thad and LaVine is a yes from Philly but the Bulls turn that down IMO.

CHA jumps all over JRich and Horford for Rozier and Zeller, but that's gross for Philly IMO.


I think both fair comments.

Chicago trade would be awesome - we straight up improve at both positions and get a better fit.

While Charlotte isn’t great - I’ll play a little devils advocate.

Terry is a better fit in our system than JRich with Ben/Embiid. He can play a George Hill-esque roll for us. Also,his contract expires in 2.5 seasons.

Zeller is a younger rotational big with a $15MM expiring after next year.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#115 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:43 pm

Shake, Korkamaz, Thybulle , Pelle and Resigned Burke next season would be ideal with Simmons and Embiid next season.

This team needs to move Tobias, JRich , Horford and Zhiare for A JJ Redick type starting 2 guard and a 3rd star combo.

3rd star combo
1. Bradley Beal
2. Lavine
3. McCollum

JJ level shooter

Buddy Hield
Bognaovic


We need get scorers and shooters to compliment our inside stars.
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Post#116 » by Aussiepiston1 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:56 pm

If we can entice the pelicans in the off season to trade us holiday and Redick for Horford and Richardson that would help both teams
Then we sign baynes to back up Embiid and GR3 and burks if prove they fit.
That would a more balanced team that could win the championship if ben and Joel are healthy.
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Post#117 » by the_process » Sun Mar 1, 2020 5:12 pm

Would you take Powell, Wright, and Jackson from Dallas in exchange for Horford and the NYK 2nd?
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Post#118 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Mar 1, 2020 7:40 pm

I like the Horford-for-Hield idea that's being tossed around. Horford, Zhaire, and OKC 1st for Hield and Bjelica. If any franchise would consider this deal, it's the Kings. We could then use our MLE on one of the many backup centers available this summer.

Simmons(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Korkmaz(16)
Richardson(32)/Thybulle(16)
Harris(32)/Bjelica(16)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)

Roster:

Simmons/Milton/(NYK or ATL 2nd)
Hield/Korkmaz/(NYK or ATL 2nd)
Richardson/Thybulle/(Vet min)
Harris/Bjelica/Scott
Embiid/(MLE)/Pelle
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#119 » by smittybanton » Sun Mar 1, 2020 8:15 pm

the scarcity of bigs who can shoot threes means we will not have to pay to get rid of horford. horford for hield would do just fine.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#120 » by youngcrev » Sun Mar 1, 2020 10:09 pm

the_process wrote:Would you take Powell, Wright, and Jackson from Dallas in exchange for Horford and the NYK 2nd?


Nah. Powell is pretty much dead weight with that Achilles. Wright is a decent rotation player, but not much more than that.

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