2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

[Walt_Uoob]

We didn't even have time to tank.

They weren't eliminated from the playoff contention though.

Maybe they have a play in tournament when they get back for all the teams not eliminated.

If they skipped the rest of the season but decided to give those who were still in the hunt a chance, they could have first round:

Memphis bye (GS is mathematically eliminated)
Portland vs Minnesota
Phoenix vs New Orleans
Sacramento vs SA

Memphis would play Sac/SA winner
Phx/NOP winner would play Portland/Minn winner.

The two winners of above matchups would play.

This would be awesome. And an unexpected chance to test the play-in idea the league is already talking about. Single games? Best of three?

[bwgood77]

They weren't eliminated from the playoff contention though.

Maybe they have a play in tournament when they get back for all the teams not eliminated.

If they skipped the rest of the season but decided to give those who were still in the hunt a chance, they could have first round:

Memphis bye (GS is mathematically eliminated)
Portland vs Minnesota
Phoenix vs New Orleans
Sacramento vs SA

Memphis would play Sac/SA winner
Phx/NOP winner would play Portland/Minn winner.

The two winners of above matchups would play.

This would be awesome. And an unexpected chance to test the play-in idea the league is already talking about. Single games? Best of three?

I was going to say best of 3, but probably single game would be better...raise the stakes..make every game win or go home.

[alamin330]

Maybe Kelly, Frank and Cam can get healthy and still play this season.

[cberry78]

If they skipped the rest of the season but decided to give those who were still in the hunt a chance, they could have first round:

Memphis bye (GS is mathematically eliminated)
Portland vs Minnesota
Phoenix vs New Orleans
Sacramento vs SA

Memphis would play Sac/SA winner
Phx/NOP winner would play Portland/Minn winner.

The two winners of above matchups would play.

This would be awesome. And an unexpected chance to test the play-in idea the league is already talking about. Single games? Best of three?

I was going to say best of 3, but probably single game would be better...raise the stakes..make every game win or go home.

Double-elimination, round-robin, randomly paired up style tournament to make the playoffs. Give every team an equal chance of making a regular 7 game style tourney for the championship. The teams that don't make the playoffs get ranked based on round-robin record first, then by regular season record (worst records get better picks/lotto odds).

[nevetsov]

And if the Dubs happen to have Klay back by the time this is resolved, they could roll through the low seeded teams.

[Kerrsed]

WTF DID THUNDER DAN DO????

GCC just fired him.

Read on Twitter

In a statement said they are going in a new direction. All seems too weird. Something had to have happeed.

[King4Day]

And if the Dubs happen to have Klay back by the time this is resolved, they could roll through the low seeded teams.

Since they've already been eliminated from the playoffs, they shouldn't be part of it.

[Wilber85]

I have a feeling the Utah Jazz locker room is screwed up ! If they resume games ! They are screwed

[sunskerr]

Christian Wood should be our target in the off season. I believe we will pursue him AGGRESSIVELY (and I mean, aggressively)

He is a 24 year old unrestricted (!!!!) free agent this offseason at the power forward position. He is a lob threat, and can stretch the floor, and is a rebounder and defender. Basically, he's an off ball forward wet dream.

His per 36 numbers are 1.5 3PG on 38% 3P%, 22 ppg, 10 rpg, 1 stl, 1.5 blk.

Since the beginning of February he has averaged 34 mpg, and here are his stats https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01/gamelog/2020#99-113-sum:pgl_basic

They are more or less in line with his per 36, and to be completely real they actually exceed his per 36 averages.

Right now this guy is as good as it gets. He is quite frankly at this stage, a better player than Ayton. I'd be prepared to offer him a very, very nice contract. 538 Raptor rating likes him a LOT too

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-ratings/

He is the T-18th best player according to total overall raptor. As you'll notice, that rating seems to occasionally inflate players who play for good teams or with good teammates perhaps a little bit too high, as Caruso and Ivica Zubac are up there. But Christian Wood plays for an unspectacular Detroit Pistons team.

So to recap, he has good per 36 numbers backed up by a solid sample size of recent play with large minutes, he fits in terms of skill set, fits age-wise, and the most current advanced stats love him. He is an UFA so we would not have to give up assets to get him unlike Aaron Gordon or Markannen. This is the guy. Go hard as possible, and I almost guarantee this will see us in the playoffs next year, after which we'd be able to sign Oubre and go over the cap.

[bwgood77]

Christian Wood should be our target in the off season. I believe we will pursue him AGGRESSIVELY (and I mean, aggressively)

He is a 24 year old unrestricted (!!!!) free agent this offseason at the power forward position. He is a lob threat, and can stretch the floor, and is a rebounder and defender. Basically, he's an off ball forward wet dream.

His per 36 numbers are 1.5 3PG on 38% 3P%, 22 ppg, 10 rpg, 1 stl, 1.5 blk.

Since the beginning of February he has averaged 34 mpg, and here are his stats https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01/gamelog/2020#99-113-sum:pgl_basic

They are more or less in line with his per 36, and to be completely real they actually exceed his per 36 averages.

Right now this guy is as good as it gets. He is quite frankly at this stage, a better player than Ayton. I'd be prepared to offer him a very, very nice contract. 538 Raptor rating likes him a LOT too

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-ratings/

He is the T-18th best player according to total overall raptor. As you'll notice, that rating seems to occasionally inflate players who play for good teams or with good teammates perhaps a little bit too high, as Caruso and Ivica Zubac are up there. But Christian Wood plays for an unspectacular Detroit Pistons team.

So to recap, he has good per 36 numbers backed up by a solid sample size of recent play with large minutes, he fits in terms of skill set, fits age-wise, and the most current advanced stats love him. He is an UFA so we would not have to give up assets to get him unlike Aaron Gordon or Markannen. This is the guy. Go hard as possible, and I almost guarantee this will see us in the playoffs next year, after which we'd be able to sign Oubre and go over the cap.

Yeah, if he wants to come here we should clear the cap space to sign him, but they may be ready to give him a very very nice contract. It might take over $20 million a year...maybe all our space if we renounce everyone.

[bigfoot]

Christian Wood should be our target in the off season. I believe we will pursue him AGGRESSIVELY (and I mean, aggressively)

He is a 24 year old unrestricted (!!!!) free agent this offseason at the power forward position. He is a lob threat, and can stretch the floor, and is a rebounder and defender. Basically, he's an off ball forward wet dream.

His per 36 numbers are 1.5 3PG on 38% 3P%, 22 ppg, 10 rpg, 1 stl, 1.5 blk.

Since the beginning of February he has averaged 34 mpg, and here are his stats https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01/gamelog/2020#99-113-sum:pgl_basic

They are more or less in line with his per 36, and to be completely real they actually exceed his per 36 averages.

Right now this guy is as good as it gets. He is quite frankly at this stage, a better player than Ayton. I'd be prepared to offer him a very, very nice contract. 538 Raptor rating likes him a LOT too

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-player-ratings/

He is the T-18th best player according to total overall raptor. As you'll notice, that rating seems to occasionally inflate players who play for good teams or with good teammates perhaps a little bit too high, as Caruso and Ivica Zubac are up there. But Christian Wood plays for an unspectacular Detroit Pistons team.

So to recap, he has good per 36 numbers backed up by a solid sample size of recent play with large minutes, he fits in terms of skill set, fits age-wise, and the most current advanced stats love him. He is an UFA so we would not have to give up assets to get him unlike Aaron Gordon or Markannen. This is the guy. Go hard as possible, and I almost guarantee this will see us in the playoffs next year, after which we'd be able to sign Oubre and go over the cap.

Yeah, if he wants to come here we should clear the cap space to sign him, but they may be ready to give him a very very nice contract. It might take over $20 million a year...maybe all our space if we renounce everyone.

Yeah the guy is averaging 21p/9r/2a when starting and he plays decent defense. I would not be surprised if he was offered something around $25M.

[sunskerr]

Yeah, if he wants to come here we should clear the cap space to sign him, but they may be ready to give him a very very nice contract. It might take over $20 million a year...maybe all our space if we renounce everyone.

Yeah the guy is averaging 21p/9r/2a when starting and he plays decent defense. I would not be surprised if he was offered something around $25M.[/quote]

Maybe he wants to sign with Detroit, but he's only been there one year and it took Drummond being traded for them to believe in him. I'd be surprised if he felt strongly attached to them. We have better weather, and better young players, as well as a need for a guy like him.

Whatever it takes. He's every bit as good as a lot of the guys who played in the all star game this year. I would strongly consider shedding Oubre if Wood was guaranteed to sign with us. He ticks all the boxes for me aside from being a shot creator.

[lilfishi22]

He'd be the man in Detroit. He'd be 2nd at most with the Suns and more likely 3rd behind Book and Ayton.

[sunskerr]

He'd be the man in Detroit. He'd be 2nd at most with the Suns and more likely 3rd behind Book and Ayton.

Good point. But all the more reason to pursue him with aggression this offseason.

My ideal scenario however is that eventually we replace Rubio down the road with a star PG and just roll with Bridges, Oubre, and Ayton. But looking at the crop of future PG free agents, I think that's going to be very tough.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Fo-Real]

He'd be the man in Detroit. He'd be 2nd at most with the Suns and more likely 3rd behind Book and Ayton.

A semi healthy Blake Griffin playing the same posistion making a **** ton of money begs to differ.

[King4Day]

Thoughts on making a run at Derozen? What would the pros/cons in adding him? He'd certainly help take the load off Booker

[WeekapaugGroove]

Thoughts on making a run at Derozen? What would the pros/cons in adding him? He'd certainly help take the load off Booker

Team already lacks 3pt shooting.

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[Walt_Uoob]

Yeah, if he wants to come here we should clear the cap space to sign him, but they may be ready to give him a very very nice contract. It might take over $20 million a year...maybe all our space if we renounce everyone.

Yeah the guy is averaging 21p/9r/2a when starting and he plays decent defense. I would not be surprised if he was offered something around $25M.

Maybe he wants to sign with Detroit, but he's only been there one year and it took Drummond being traded for them to believe in him. I'd be surprised if he felt strongly attached to them. We have better weather, and better young players, as well as a need for a guy like him.

Whatever it takes. He's every bit as good as a lot of the guys who played in the all star game this year. I would strongly consider shedding Oubre if Wood was guaranteed to sign with us. He ticks all the boxes for me aside from being a shot creator.[/quote]

I'm into it. That probably means letting both Saric and Baynes walk, which would be a shame. I'd particularly like to bring Baynes back in this scenario, but all we'd have left is the $5.1m Room MLE if we clear out $20m and use it all on Wood. Carter's cap hold is so small we should be able to keep him either way, which I'd like too.

So based on clearing out Diallo, Okobo, Saric, and Baynes, we'd have:

Rubio - Carter
Booker - Jerome
Bridges - Oubre - Cam
Wood - Kaminsky - Cam
Ayton - ?

The starting 5 is nice! But some more balancing / depth would be needed. Backup guard spots are still weak/thin. We'd just have that Room MLE, our draft pick, and minimum contracts to fill that out. But looks like a playoff team with room to grow to me!

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Oh so now y'all aboard the Wood train. Y'all can get in the caboose, cuz I don't remember any And-1's when I was posting to nobody about Wood over a month ago. (sorry for the salt, it's rare that I vocalize it)

BUT I ultimately concluded (as you all will in time...) that Wood's a fool's hope. DET (and their fans) love him and expect to roll out the red carpet this summer. They have more cap space than us, as well as a premier role for him. Because of our record, we can't even really offer him a better chance to win.

This is why you don't waste roster spaces on guys like Jared Harper. It's why you don't draft guys like Bender, Chriss and Jackson at the top of the lotto. How much better off would we have been giving their spots to Derrick Jones Jr., Danuel House, Christian Wood and Seth Curry? The Heat have built their rotation on undrafted players. I don't know why we haven't tried to fill out our bench doing the same.