Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

[Nuntius]

Two questions for you:

1) what city are you in?

2) does your friend have family or friends in China, Italy, France or Germany that they may have interacted with?

What has #2 do with anything? Community spreading has been happening in the US for at least 3 weeks now (maybe a bit more).

Community spread has been happening in areas where a significant number of people visited China or Central Europe. It's not significant in many areas. The fact that this person is in Vancouver, which has a large Chinese population that traveled to and from China over the New Year, means that he should be extra careful.

I'm sorry to say but community spread has been happening all over. Cases started trickling in daily ever since March 2nd. We all know that this virus has an incubation period of up to 14 days (with 5 days being the average). The people who exhibited symptoms in March 2nd were probably infected around mid to late February. They had no idea they were infected so they continued on with life as usual and spread it around. That's how this virus generally spreads.

On top of that, we all know that the US is lagging behind when it comes to testing. Heck, we even have our own examples from RealGM posters that are trying to get tested and haven't been able to do so. It is simply very hard to know right now who has it, who hasn't and where they all got it. No extensive testing means that you can't trace its origin all that well either.

[Metallikid]

Two questions for you:

1) what city are you in?

2) does your friend have family or friends in China, Italy, France or Germany that they may have interacted with?

What has #2 do with anything? Community spreading has been happening in the US for at least 3 weeks now (maybe a bit more).

Community spread has been happening in areas where a significant number of people visited China or Central Europe. It's not significant in many areas. The fact that this person is in Vancouver, which has a large Chinese population that traveled to and from China over the New Year, means that he should be extra careful.

Don't kid yourself, community spread has been happening all over the US for weeks now. Europe is not the epicentre of the outbreak, the United States is and will far surpass any European nation very soon.

https://www.statista.com/chart/21099/coronavirus-in-italy/

Look at the chart. The spread of the virus is EXPONENTIAL.

March 2nd ~2,500 cases
March 9th All of Italy placed on full lockdown. No leaving the home for anything but groceries, medicine, or essential work.
March 16th ~27,000 cases

Tenfold increases every 14 days. Numbers don't lie. I wish I was wrong. Prepare yourself now - STOCK UP AND STAY THE **** HOME.

[PT416]

I had a close friend who recently got diagnosed with CoronaVirus.

We played basketball every Friday- Sunday. I haven't seen him in a couple weeks as he is self quarantining himself. I'm starting to feel symptoms, and the first one was a shortness of breath and I'm starting to get a dry throat.

I want to get medical attention, but the hospitals are so packed where I reside and the local health hotline is just busy until no end (waited 4 hours until I finally gave up).

All I can really so is self quarantine and just pray right now my body can fight this off, if in fact I am infected.

Sure self-quarantine (and wear a mask if you have one), but you can do more to help get better faster.

WebMD has:

"A coronavirus is a type of common virus that can infect your nose, sinuses, or upper throat. You treat a coronavirus infection the same way you treat a cold:

A humidifier or steamy shower can also help ease a sore and scratchy throat.

Get plenty of rest.
Drink fluids.
Take over-the-counter medicine for sore throat and fever (but don't give aspirin to children or teens younger than 19; use ibuprofen or acetaminophen instead)."

https://www.webmd.com/lung/qa/how-is-a-coronavirus-infection-treated

If you're in the danger age, then you have to contact somebody. I think what the medical people can do is test you to make sure you have it and then treat you if you are in the danger age or give you priority if symptoms get worse. I'm not sure about the last part.

Apparently Ibuprofen is bad and makes it worse. They say don't take anti-inflammatory meds, instead go for tylenol. Google that and look into it if you want the full information.

[Dominator83]

I've been taking 2000mg vitamin c and around 5000 iu vitamin d for about the last 15 years or so. i cant even remember the last time i had a "cold." the stuff works.

That's a lot of vitamin C. No kidney stones of anything?

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Within three weeks the National Guard and maybe even the army will be out enforcing quarantines in at least 10 states. Interstate travel that is not commercial will be done with for months.

Do you have a good source for that? And which states?

It's happening in Europe, most countries now have implemented border controls limiting the movements between them. Several, Italy being the first, have also implemented limitation within the country.
You must expect similar measures in the US as well, to have any chance to contain the epidemic.

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[dhsilv2]

Its shameful that the bill for emergency sick leave was made to exclude business of 500 employees or more. Just shameful. Making it clear who's side they are on.

Well, I think this leaves a lot of issues, but most people working for larger companies can work just fine from home so this won't really interrupt their pay checks.

[basketballRob]

Good news! We're getting tests this week! Also mask and stuff. We got 2000 more ventilators, only need like 50k more!

Seriously it's like we live in a third world country. Maybe the Congo can help us

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[Optimus_Steel]

Considering that we have seen what has happened in Wahun, Italy, Spain, it's unbelievable how slow we are reacting. Acting a week prior might save you months in the end.

I can't remember but was the response by the government this slow during the financial crisis.

It's not surprising unfortunately, they had been dismissive for weeks and although they are taking it seriously now their actions are far short of what's necessary, it's like they are still in denial about having to freeze mortgage, rent, utilities payments, etc. They also have been leaning on corporations to take care of things, that's not leadership that's looking out for them instead of looking out for the American citizenry.

[dhsilv2]

The virus isnt dangerous enough on an individual level for someone of my demographic to risk taking a vaccine that is fast tracked through and doesnt have long term safety data. I'd imagine a lot of people would feel the same way

As a person under the age of 50 and with a strong immune system, I have zero interest in taking a new vaccine for Covid.

You don't get vaccines to protect yourself. You do it to protect others. There are people who can't be vaccinated because they aren't healthy like you are. They need healthy people to get vaccinated so when these healthy people get sick, they don't kill those with compromised immune systems. While it might sound a bit extreme, how could you live with yourself if you actions kill others? Again, you don't get vaccines for things like the flu or this for yourself.

[Richfield]

i have a plane flt that is currently 1/3 full. i think most people are practicing caution and the result is they are self-policing. my main concern is the line for security. i wish or hope that they practice some judicious spacing between each person.

i am asian born in the good ole USofA and when i have passed some people on the sidewalk they hold their breath. LMAO i only wish they'd shy from me too and give me some space...and btw, F' them and their prejudice

LaLouie, the holding the breath thing, it might be because you're human. I can't speak for the people you passed on the street. But I can speak for myself. In recent days whether at work or out in public getting food, wherever. Even with people I know. I have been holding my breath or exhaling in the short time I am interacting or standing near them. It's about the virus. Not about anybody's prejudice in my case. It's with everybody I come close to. No exceptions.

Just as you wished in your first paragraph, hoping people practice judicious spacing. That's exactly the purpose of holding breath or exhaling when I am close to people temporarily. Why risk breathing the vapor that comes from their lungs if you don't have to? If somebody did the same with me I wouldn't be offended.

I'm pretty much attempting to be aware of every potential molecule I touch, brush up against with my clothes, and breath in the air. That includes avoiding breathing in other peoples' breath. I kind of assume that's one of the main ways it's transmitted, through moisture in the air especially out of peoples' lungs. It's why Kyle Kuzma claiming sanitizer doesn't work seems silly to me, maybe he knows somebody who contracted that uses sanitizer all the time, so now he thinks it doesn't work. And with the 4 Nets, I assume these 4 were in a room talking to each other in close proximity, breathing each others' breath, if they caught it from each other. If not sweating on each other and wiping their face, or sharing drinks, or passing the dutchie to the left hand side. I don't think it takes much.

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[Richfield]

I had a close friend who recently got diagnosed with CoronaVirus.

We played basketball every Friday- Sunday. I haven't seen him in a couple weeks as he is self quarantining himself. I'm starting to feel symptoms, and the first one was a shortness of breath and I'm starting to get a dry throat.

I want to get medical attention, but the hospitals are so packed where I reside and the local health hotline is just busy until no end (waited 4 hours until I finally gave up).

All I can really so is self quarantine and just pray right now my body can fight this off, if in fact I am infected.

Two questions for you:

1) what city are you in?

2) does your friend have family or friends in China, Italy, France or Germany that they may have interacted with?

These questions are meaningless at this point. It's had enough time to be in every city, and pass through many people.

A good example of how ignorance is bliss, but also dangerously unwise in this case. They could give somebody a false sense of security, and then they go out spreading it even more.

[Optimus_Steel]

The best situation moving foward maybe to do what Britian is doing instead of putting all the effort into preventing the unpreventable as it relates to the Chinese Coronavirus instead protect the most vulnerable and for the rest allow it to move throughout the population and build up some immunity.

Britain completely changed course on that once they figured out that their hospitals would be overwhelmed and hundreds of thousands would die. We also don't even know at this point if long term immunity exists for people who have recovered.

That was their initial thought but they reversed course and decided not to do that because too many people would die.

[Optimus_Steel]

Its shameful that the bill for emergency sick leave was made to exclude business of 500 employees or more. Just shameful. Making it clear who's side they are on.

Well, I think this leaves a lot of issues, but most people working for larger companies can work just fine from home so this won't really interrupt their pay checks.

Not necessarily. The list would include companies like McDonald's, Walmart, Marriott, etc. Those people can't be at home and work the same, they also may only have part time work. The managerial class and office workers yes but not the regular workers. And if they get sick and have symptoms they can't be working, and some of these companies have just a couple of days sick leave if even that.

[MotownMadness]

Its shameful that the bill for emergency sick leave was made to exclude business of 500 employees or more. Just shameful. Making it clear who's side they are on.

Well, I think this leaves a lot of issues, but most people working for larger companies can work just fine from home so this won't really interrupt their pay checks.

Not necessarily. The list would include companies like McDonald's, Walmart, Marriott, etc. Those people can't be at home and work the same, they also may only have part time work. The managerial class and office workers yes but not the regular workers. And if they get sick and have symptoms they can't be working, and some of these companies have just a couple of days sick leave if even that.

Need to just make it quick and easy to let them collect unemployment or something. I know servers are really hurting.

Im sure everyone is about to get like a 1000 dollar stimulus check but how far does that really get someone

[UcanUwill]

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Whats the most sad and sickening, is seeing young people at work on that disgraceful and bigoted platform. You can excuse old farts all back from Reagan days sticking to their views, but where the hell do they find these young people from to join them?
And I swear I never hated a woman more than I hate Laura Ingraham, I couldn't imagine a freaking news anchor can act this scummy on the air and be employed. Her shut up and dribble delivery was unbelievable.

[Sgt Major]

What else could you expect from these people?

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