Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread VI (Don't Read Post 1 & FAQ)

[Dirk]

Part V was contaminated.

This is Part VI.

It is not very practical to move posts out of the topic. It is also not sustainable to leave bad posts in the topic (they will always be quoted and bring level down).

So again, use your best judgement and be bigger than the occasional idiotic/derailing thing you read. If you do that (or just report them), the topic will be better.

Be open minded to the the different perspective some have on things (not everyone is an idiot just because they have different views). And when we read some bjectively moronic things, the best option is to ignore or report it.

Understand that about 90% of users probably share most of your ideas. So there is no need to beat the same dead horse (i.e, bash the guy in the white house or micro-analyse every little back and forth between the dems/republicans). Don't dwell on "what could have been done" and avoid an echo chamber that some may perceive as "America bashing". The topic is really not for that.

We happily sacrifice activity in this topic in favour of a better discussion and better overall mood. I trust everyone gets what these topics should be about. The only ones who don't are those that aren't even able to read post 1. Including this sentence.

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In Short
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Anyone and anything deemed as not contributing to productive discussion will be weeded out.

--- Users will be suspended
If you repeteadly derail the topic and fail to respect the basics (like reading this post), we're still friends, but your account will be given a time off

--- Posts will be moved out
If your post disappeared, it means it was moved out to a restricted area so as to not bring the level of discussion down in the topic.

— REALGM has a section for Politics — Current Affairs board. Click the link and head there for political discussions. For in depth discussions about the health care system. For discussions of international affairs, such as China.

This topic is not the place for off-topic or political discussion. Keep all posts and comments that aren't relevant the virus/COVID-19 outside the GB. Use the CA section for everything else.

Spoiler:

Use the CA board if you politically motivated. Want to dump tweets and engage in never ending back and forths about the media, the dems, the republicans, the left and the right, etc.

For instance, while very real, the economic impact and the measures that need to be taken to keep the economy and families afloat isn't really the scope of this topic. So, this topic isn't really for micro-discussions and "live tweeting" about the congress.

If you are a fresh new user and/or have no trajectory on the General Board prior to this topic, make sure you're adding value to this topic. This topic is really not a topic for political discussions. And there is little patience for those who incite said discussions and bring the forum down.

Only discussions allowed here are the ones that organically belong to the current state of emergency.

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Hygiene Recommendations
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▲ Posting useful info and updates is greatly appreciated
▲ If you post based on data, please link to the source. Don't post unverified data. Use Reliable Sources.
▲ Share your experience with others, how things are in your town/state/country.
▲ Promote a good environment by respecting others. Actively ignore the posts that irk you and engage/value the many good posts that other users make.
▲ Report posts/PM mods if you have any problem with any post, the tone of the topic or want to provide feedback.

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▼ No never ending discussions about China. Take their numbers with a grain of salt and move on. This isn't the topic for prolongued discussions about China.
▼ No derailing with the virus name. In this topic, you refer to the virus as Coronavirus(Sars-cov2), just like the CDC does.
▼ No "it's the flu" bro type posts. If you are sceptical, make posts with substance to back it up.
▼ No conspiracy theories (i.e, virus was created in a lab), "but I have evidence!" - Zero tolerance.
▼ No inappropriate/sensationalized posts. Source your posts well and verify the authenticity.
▼ No dumping of tweets by politically motivated accounts. Always preferable to share your own opinion.
▼ There will always be random bad posts. Ignore/report them. If you reply, you are bringing the topic down.
▼ No cheap attacks on groups of users or people. If someone makes a bad post, you don't get a free card to attack the user/others who may think or vote the way he does.
▼ Low-effort content such as jokes, memes, or shitposts don't really belong here.

► No posts about "the mods should do this", "the mods should do that"
► No posts about the tone of the topic "this topic is this", "this topic is that"

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- previous topics
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IV

[Dirk]

A quick and accessible FAQ. More to be added. Contribute to it by posing questions and/or suggesting relevant info that should be added. I.e, "wearing masks and how to" should be added. If you need masks, reach Ken out, I hear he has a big stash.

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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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► What Is COVID-19?
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COVID-19 is the name given to the disease associated with the virus.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) is the name given to the 2019 novel coronavirus.

SARS-CoV-2 is a new strain of coronavirus that has not been previously identified in humans.
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► What are the symptoms of COVID-19?
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The virus can cause mild, flu-like symptoms such as:
- fever
- cough
- difficulty breathing
- muscle pain
- tiredness
Some patients — particularly the elderly and others with other chronic health conditions — develop a severe form of pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, sepsis and septic shock that can lead to death.

The incubation period for COVID-19 (i.e. the time between exposure to the virus and onset of symptoms) is currently estimated at between two and 14 days.

At this stage, we know that the virus can be transmitted when people who are infected show flu-like symptoms such as coughing. There is evidence suggesting that transmission can occur from an infected person with no symptoms; however, uncertainties remain about the effect of transmission by non symptomatic persons on the epidemic.

How does the infection progress when the new coronavirus gets a foothold in your body?

It usually starts with a cough. Then a low fever. Then the low fever turns into a high fever and you get shortness of breath.

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► How is this new virus different from the earlier known coronaviruses that spread SARS or MERS?
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SARS-CoV2 is different in 4 critical ways:

First, many infected people have no symptoms for days, so they can unknowingly infect others, and we don’t know who to isolate. This is very worrisome because SARS-CoV2 is highly infectious.

Second, 80% of the time, COVID-19 is a mild disease that feels like a minor cold or cough, so we don’t isolate ourselves, and infect others.

Third, the symptoms are easily confused with the flu, so many people think they have the flu and don’t consider other possibilities.

Fourth, and perhaps most importantly, the virus is very easy to spread from human to human because in the early stages it is concentrated in the upper throat. The throat is full of viral particles so when we cough or sneeze, billions of these particles can be expelled and transmitted to another person.


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► COVID-19 compared to the seasonal flu. What’s the right way to frame this comparison? For example, are the seasonal flu and coronavirus equally dangerous?
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The seasonal flu typically infects up to 30 million people a year in the U.S., and fewer than 1/10th of 1% of the infected group will die – but that is still a big number. Worldwide, in an average year, a total of 300,000 people die from seasonal flu. But, on an average basis, the new coronavirus is 10-20 times more deadly, and in contrast to influenza, we cannot protect ourselves through vaccination.

Despite the relatively low mortality rate for seasonal influenza, many people die from the disease due to the large number of people who contract it each year. The concern about COVID-19 is that, unlike influenza, there is no vaccine and no specific treatment for the disease. It also appears to be as transmissible as influenza if not more so. As it is a new virus, nobody has prior immunity which in theory means that the entire human population is potentially susceptible to COVID-19 infection.

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► Someone can be infected with the new virus and never show symptoms at all?
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Unfortunately, yes.

Many infected people do not show any symptoms for the first few days and then a mild cough or low fever shows up. This is the opposite of SARS, where you had clear symptoms for a few days but were only contagious when sick.

If you have no symptoms, can you still infect other people?

Yes. And that makes it much more difficult to slow the spread.

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► How deadly is the new virus?
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Most scientists believe that it kills 1% to 2% of all the people who become infected. The WHO currently reports a higher figure of more than 3%, but that estimate is likely to come down as they figure out how to count many unreported or mild cases. Mortality is clearly higher in older people and those with underlying conditions.

Is the average death rate the figure to focus on?

Not really. You can drown in an “average” of 3 inches of water. A better way to understand the risks are recognizing that it can be deadly for certain groups of people and much less so for other groups – with a wide range of outcomes.

So what are the numbers and checkpoints to focus on?

80% of the time it’s a mild disease, but in 20% of cases it becomes more severe, with the worst cases reporting high fever or shortness of breath. As a result some people require hospitalization, and some will need intensive care to survive through a few critical days when their lungs are extensively infected.


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► Which groups of people are most at danger here?
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The older you are, the higher your risk. Also at greater risk are people with underlying diseases such as diabetes, chronic obstructive lung disease and pulmonary disease or cardiovascular disease or immune deficiencies.

How much danger do these high-risk groups face?

Their mortality rate can be as high as 10% or even 15%. And, your risk increases when you have more health conditions. The scientific data about all of this is regularly updated on the web.

► How can I avoid getting infected?
The virus enters your body via your eyes, nose and/or mouth, so it is important to avoid touching your face with unwashed hands.

Washing of hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, or cleaning hands with alcohol-based solutions, gels or tissues is recommended in all settings.

It is also recommended to stay 1 metre or more away from people infected with COVID-19 who are showing symptoms, to reduce the risk of infection through respiratory droplets.

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Replies sourced from the links below.

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Links of interest
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- CDC | - ECDC

--- Johns Hopkins. Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases

--- Up-to-date and global information ncov2019.live

--- Q&A on coronaviruses (COVID-19)

--- worldometers.info/coronavirus

--- CDC 2019-nCoV factsheet[

--- 2019ncov.health/info/

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[Swish1906]

Germany allready extended the lockdown until april 20th.

Cases doubling every 5.5 days, they wanna bring it down to 10-11 days until they even think about lifting some of the restrictions (source: Merkel).

They also took around 150 intensiv care patients in from Italy and France

[ratul]

Hope everyone staying safe. Harvard epidemiologist saying plasma transfusion has success in curing Covid-19. Going to trial phase.

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[ratul]

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[KingDavid]

Hope everyone staying safe. Harvard epidemiologist saying plasma transfusion has success in curing Covid-19. Going to trial phase.

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Oh wow, that's one way to get antibodies in there. That's pretty cool.

[LKN]

Hope everyone staying safe. Harvard epidemiologist saying plasma transfusion has success in curing Covid-19. Going to trial phase.

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It doesn't "cure" it... but it can help patients fight it.

It's actually a really old technique from the days before vaccines. The science is pretty sound - basically giving you anti-bodies from someone else who recovered

[Dubious Handles]

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[Badonkadonk]

Not sure if this was posted in the other thread, but for those who still don't understand virulent spread or how networks of people intersect, this is what those foolish kids in Florida exposed to the rest of the eastern US:

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Skip to 1 min mark for the TLDR

[Gomagic44]

I'm just happy today is the first day I feel I've turned the corner this week on whatever I have. I think it's covid but the labs are so overworked right now my test from Tuesday hasn't even given me flu/influenza results yet. But I started feeling off last Friday so it was a full 7 days of a mixture of miserable and just wholly uncomfortable.

Dry cough, muscle pain, coughing fits for an hour after I woke up with 102.5 fevers ranged 38.2-39.2 for my Celsius Bros. Fever dreams. Feeling like a woman in menapause (hot cold hot cold). It got bad enough at times I had to focus
on breathing to get a 3 count in and a 2 count out before I coughed.

I'm in central Florida and I live in a neighborhood with 90% age 65+. It's gonna be bad imho. I'm 33 and this is the most sick I've been in my adult life. It just gives you hope in the day and decends...like a bat? At night.

Stay safe and stay isolated y'all. You don't want none of this. Fortunately my wife and 5 month old did not catch it. I spent all week in a different room using different shower and different cups utensils and all. It's rough



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[chrismikayla]

Hope everyone staying safe. Harvard epidemiologist saying plasma transfusion has success in curing Covid-19. Going to trial phase.

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That's great news I'm sure most of us will take all the good news we can these days. Let's hope soon all the critically ill patients can get this treatment.

[Gomagic44]

I had a small bowl of cereal this morning and it's the biggest meal of the week for me too. Stay hydrated!

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[chrismikayla]

There will probably never be a scientific answer for this. But I wonder how much dehydration plays in severe symptoms as well. I've heard many nurses say that dehydration affects your body's ability to mount an effective immune response in your body. It also places strain on your kidneys and heart.I know my cold symptoms are much worse if I don't maintain and increase fluid and electrolyte intake.

[wayoftheroad]

I dont have it or anything but while I've been wfh past 2 weeks I've drank maybe 8-10 cups of green tea everyday. Peeing like crazy but drinking the hot fluids is really good for u. Just my thoughts.

If u have a kettle. Boil like 1.5litres pour into a thermos add a green tea bag and maybe some cardamom for flavour and sip away

[Michael Jordan]

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This video is for general informational purposes only. It should not be used to self-diagnose and it is not a substitute for a medical exam, cure, treatment, diagnosis, and prescription or recommendation.

[sfernald]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-epa-coronavirus-environment-deregulation_n_5e7e3227c5b6cb9dc19f6728

[LAKESHOW]

Thanks for the info Dirk

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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Fashionable masks will show up in a month or two, and Americans will wear them as they see celebrities doing it. Expect Nike and Adidas to have some, and high fashion to have expensive designer masks.

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[TMU]

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Fashionable masks will show up in a month or two, and Americans will wear them as they see celebrities doing it. Expect Nike and Adidas to have some, and high fashion to have expensive designer masks.

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And our idiot Surgeon General and CDC said not to. Everyone should wear masks in public. South Korea did it right.

[SactoKingsFan]

I've been wearing N95 for weeks. People give strange looks like I'm some kind of weirdo. It's gonna take some convincing to get widespread mask wearing in the states. Those Trumps Coronavirus Guide/ CDC postcards that recently went out didn't say anything about wearing masks.

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