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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#341 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:16 pm

100proof wrote:Vassell would be a terrible pick at the memphis spot.

1 dimensional player, poor defense, cannot create shot, cannot create for others.

And another sg/sf type of player. He would be behind jaylen, hayward, tatum, smart, romeo at a minimum.

Memphis pick will be a pg with the pitential to replace kemba.

Boston pick will be one of the many wings available
Bucks pick, if smith falls, will be for him.

I will be shocked if ramsay is not a celtic next season. Team may look to move smart to backup pg with ramsay at sg changing their options at the memphis pick, but I cannot see that making vassell the target there.

I thinks its either nesmith or maledon at 17. (Theo is backup plan if nesmith is gone)

Then Ramsay at 26.

Williams, smith or bey at 30


Nobody is worried about replacing Kemba when he is in year 1 of a 4-year deal. Hell, he could get extended after that or they could sign someone else. The problem with this draft is, nobody we could draft at 17 will even sniff a spot over any of the current group of talent we have. And if we're worried about replacing anyone, Smart may end up the next person on that list before Walker.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#342 » by 100proof » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:27 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
100proof wrote:Vassell would be a terrible pick at the memphis spot.

1 dimensional player, poor defense, cannot create shot, cannot create for others.

And another sg/sf type of player. He would be behind jaylen, hayward, tatum, smart, romeo at a minimum.

Memphis pick will be a pg with the pitential to replace kemba.

Boston pick will be one of the many wings available
Bucks pick, if smith falls, will be for him.

I will be shocked if ramsay is not a celtic next season. Team may look to move smart to backup pg with ramsay at sg changing their options at the memphis pick, but I cannot see that making vassell the target there.

I thinks its either nesmith or maledon at 17. (Theo is backup plan if nesmith is gone)

Then Ramsay at 26.

Williams, smith or bey at 30


Nobody is worried about replacing Kemba when he is in year 1 of a 4-year deal. Hell, he could get extended after that or they could sign someone else. The problem with this draft is, nobody we could draft at 17 will even sniff a spot over any of the current group of talent we have. And if we're worried about replacing anyone, Smart may end up the next person on that list before Walker.



I completely disagree.

The talent level of a couple of the pgs in the middle of this draft has massive potential. The reason they are lower in the draft is they need a couple years.

So the draft if for a better backup now, withe the potential to rwplace kemba in a couple of years.

Guarantee is nonexistant that kemba last 3 seasons healthwise, fits the team in 3 years, wants to bebon the team in 2 years or ever even resigns.

You take the player with the best potential and groom them like your top players may not be available.

Its the reason they chose romeo.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#343 » by Parliament10 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:57 pm

100proof wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
100proof wrote:Vassell would be a terrible pick at the memphis spot.

1 dimensional player, poor defense, cannot create shot, cannot create for others.

And another sg/sf type of player. He would be behind jaylen, hayward, tatum, smart, romeo at a minimum.

Memphis pick will be a pg with the pitential to replace kemba.

Boston pick will be one of the many wings available
Bucks pick, if smith falls, will be for him.

I will be shocked if ramsay is not a celtic next season. Team may look to move smart to backup pg with ramsay at sg changing their options at the memphis pick, but I cannot see that making vassell the target there.

I thinks its either nesmith or maledon at 17. (Theo is backup plan if nesmith is gone)

Then Ramsay at 26.

Williams, smith or bey at 30


Nobody is worried about replacing Kemba when he is in year 1 of a 4-year deal. Hell, he could get extended after that or they could sign someone else. The problem with this draft is, nobody we could draft at 17 will even sniff a spot over any of the current group of talent we have. And if we're worried about replacing anyone, Smart may end up the next person on that list before Walker.



I completely disagree.

The talent level of a couple of the pgs in the middle of this draft has massive potential. The reason they are lower in the draft is they need a couple years.

So the draft if for a better backup now, withe the potential to rwplace kemba in a couple of years.

Guarantee is nonexistant that kemba last 3 seasons healthwise, fits the team in 3 years, wants to bebon the team in 2 years or ever even resigns.

You take the player with the best potential and groom them like your top players may not be available.

Its the reason they chose romeo.

TBH, I can't see a potential Starting Caliber PG, at the #17 Draft slot.
For the time being though, Kemba will be age 30 by the time play resumes, and Smart (as a Super 6th-Man) is 26.

Follow those two, by Tremont Waters as a legit PG at 22 yrs old.
Romeo Langford could become a Starter, but Not at PG.

In any event, I believe that a (future) Starting Caliber PG needs to be Drafted in the Top 10.
While it is possible to get someone get outside of the Top 10, like a Rondo (at #21), it's highly unlikely.

Also, an Isaiah Thomas doesn't come around too often (Drafted at #60).
And even then, would likely Not be Starting Caliber for more than a couple of years.

No. I think it's best to go with who we currently have, waiting in the wings.
We do need to add another PG to the Depth Chart, in a year or so, though. But, not immediately.


Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - (XXXX) - Theis
Waters - Smart - Langford - G.Williams - Kanter/R.Williams
(Rookie) - Edwards - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
__________________________________________

Or,

Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Smart - Brown - Tatum - Theis
Waters - Edwards - Langford - G.Williams - R.Williams/(Kanter)
(Rookie) - (Rookie) - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#344 » by 100proof » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:00 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
100proof wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
Nobody is worried about replacing Kemba when he is in year 1 of a 4-year deal. Hell, he could get extended after that or they could sign someone else. The problem with this draft is, nobody we could draft at 17 will even sniff a spot over any of the current group of talent we have. And if we're worried about replacing anyone, Smart may end up the next person on that list before Walker.



I completely disagree.

The talent level of a couple of the pgs in the middle of this draft has massive potential. The reason they are lower in the draft is they need a couple years.

So the draft if for a better backup now, withe the potential to rwplace kemba in a couple of years.

Guarantee is nonexistant that kemba last 3 seasons healthwise, fits the team in 3 years, wants to bebon the team in 2 years or ever even resigns.

You take the player with the best potential and groom them like your top players may not be available.

Its the reason they chose romeo.

TBH, I can't see a potential Starting Caliber PG, at the #17 Draft slot.
For the time being though, Kemba will be age 30 by the time play resumes, and Smart (as a Super 6th-Man) is 26.

Follow those two, by Tremont Waters as a legit PG at 22 yrs old.
Romeo Langford could become a Starter, but Not at PG.

In any event, I believe that a (future) Starting Caliber PG needs to be Drafted in the Top 10.
While it is possible to get someone get outside of the Top 10, like a Rondo (at #21), it's highly unlikely.

Also, an Isaiah Thomas doesn't come around too often (Drafted at #60).
And even then, would likely Not be Starting Caliber for more than a couple of years.

No. I think it's best to go with who we currently have, waiting in the wings.
We do need to add another PG to the Depth Chart, in a year or so, though. But, not immediately.


Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - (XXXX) - Theis
Waters - Smart - Langford - G.Williams - Kanter/R.Williams
(Rookie) - Edwards - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
__________________________________________

Or,

Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Smart - Brown - Tatum - Theis
Waters - Edwards - Langford - G.Williams - R.Williams/(Kanter)
(Rookie) - (Rookie) - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#345 » by Homerclease » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:59 pm

100proof wrote:Vassell would be a terrible pick at the memphis spot.

1 dimensional player, poor defense, cannot create shot, cannot create for others.

And another sg/sf type of player. He would be behind jaylen, hayward, tatum, smart, romeo at a minimum.

Memphis pick will be a pg with the pitential to replace kemba.

Boston pick will be one of the many wings available
Bucks pick, if smith falls, will be for him.

I will be shocked if ramsay is not a celtic next season. Team may look to move smart to backup pg with ramsay at sg changing their options at the memphis pick, but I cannot see that making vassell the target there.

I thinks its either nesmith or maledon at 17. (Theo is backup plan if nesmith is gone)

Then Ramsay at 26.

Williams, smith or bey at 30

Disagree, but it’s a moot point anyway because Vassell won’t be there.

I think they take a point with one of their picks as well due to the depth of the class but I absolutely think they can wait to 26 or 30 and get Mannion instead.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#346 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:13 am

Parliament10 wrote:
100proof wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
Nobody is worried about replacing Kemba when he is in year 1 of a 4-year deal. Hell, he could get extended after that or they could sign someone else. The problem with this draft is, nobody we could draft at 17 will even sniff a spot over any of the current group of talent we have. And if we're worried about replacing anyone, Smart may end up the next person on that list before Walker.



I completely disagree.

The talent level of a couple of the pgs in the middle of this draft has massive potential. The reason they are lower in the draft is they need a couple years.

So the draft if for a better backup now, withe the potential to rwplace kemba in a couple of years.

Guarantee is nonexistant that kemba last 3 seasons healthwise, fits the team in 3 years, wants to bebon the team in 2 years or ever even resigns.

You take the player with the best potential and groom them like your top players may not be available.

Its the reason they chose romeo.

TBH, I can't see a potential Starting Caliber PG, at the #17 Draft slot.
For the time being though, Kemba will be age 30 by the time play resumes, and Smart (as a Super 6th-Man) is 26.

Follow those two, by Tremont Waters as a legit PG at 22 yrs old.
Romeo Langford could become a Starter, but Not at PG.

In any event, I believe that a (future) Starting Caliber PG needs to be Drafted in the Top 10.
While it is possible to get someone get outside of the Top 10, like a Rondo (at #21), it's highly unlikely.

Also, an Isaiah Thomas doesn't come around too often (Drafted at #60).
And even then, would likely Not be Starting Caliber for more than a couple of years.

No. I think it's best to go with who we currently have, waiting in the wings.
We do need to add another PG to the Depth Chart, in a year or so, though. But, not immediately.


Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - (XXXX) - Theis
Waters - Smart - Langford - G.Williams - Kanter/R.Williams
(Rookie) - Edwards - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
__________________________________________

Or,

Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Smart - Brown - Tatum - Theis
Waters - Edwards - Langford - G.Williams - R.Williams/(Kanter)
(Rookie) - (Rookie) - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
'

Yeah, they chose Romeo because they thought he was the BPA at 14. And that's the same thing they'll do in this draft if they're forced to take a guy with any of their picks. But considering their financial concerns, cap considerations, and lack of roster flexibility, I think it makes more sense to draft and stash @17 so as not to pay the guaranteed salary slot there. In fact, there are so few guys in this draft I think worthy of guaranteed salary slots while a number of guys that if they drop to the 2nd round might be worth taking a chance on.
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Post#347 » by Parliament10 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:10 am

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Post#348 » by Higgs Boston » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:40 pm

Bolmaro with the bucks pick would be good.
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Post#349 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:19 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
100proof wrote:

I completely disagree.

The talent level of a couple of the pgs in the middle of this draft has massive potential. The reason they are lower in the draft is they need a couple years.

So the draft if for a better backup now, withe the potential to rwplace kemba in a couple of years.

Guarantee is nonexistant that kemba last 3 seasons healthwise, fits the team in 3 years, wants to bebon the team in 2 years or ever even resigns.

You take the player with the best potential and groom them like your top players may not be available.

Its the reason they chose romeo.

TBH, I can't see a potential Starting Caliber PG, at the #17 Draft slot.
For the time being though, Kemba will be age 30 by the time play resumes, and Smart (as a Super 6th-Man) is 26.

Follow those two, by Tremont Waters as a legit PG at 22 yrs old.
Romeo Langford could become a Starter, but Not at PG.

In any event, I believe that a (future) Starting Caliber PG needs to be Drafted in the Top 10.
While it is possible to get someone get outside of the Top 10, like a Rondo (at #21), it's highly unlikely.

Also, an Isaiah Thomas doesn't come around too often (Drafted at #60).
And even then, would likely Not be Starting Caliber for more than a couple of years.

No. I think it's best to go with who we currently have, waiting in the wings.
We do need to add another PG to the Depth Chart, in a year or so, though. But, not immediately.


Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - (XXXX) - Theis
Waters - Smart - Langford - G.Williams - Kanter/R.Williams
(Rookie) - Edwards - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
__________________________________________

Or,

Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Smart - Brown - Tatum - Theis
Waters - Edwards - Langford - G.Williams - R.Williams/(Kanter)
(Rookie) - (Rookie) - Poirier - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)
'

Yeah, they chose Romeo because they thought he was the BPA at 14. And that's the same thing they'll do in this draft if they're forced to take a guy with any of their picks. But considering their financial concerns, cap considerations, and lack of roster flexibility, I think it makes more sense to draft and stash @17 so as not to pay the guaranteed salary slot there. In fact, there are so few guys in this draft I think worthy of guaranteed salary slots while a number of guys that if they drop to the 2nd round might be worth taking a chance on.


I haven't focused on this year's draft, but to me best case scenario is they trade up and combine multiple picks. Outside of that I dunno how they can draft what 3 players in the first round? I prefer Danny trading all 3 for 1 and going after a 4(like a 6'9-6'10 Brad style of 4 who can shoot), or a center who's also talented and could grow together with Tatum and Brown(Smart).
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Post#350 » by Parliament10 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:32 pm

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Post#352 » by ddb » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:03 pm

this draft stinks. Celtics are young, but also really good. They need to flip picks/assets and bring in a veteran that can help push them over the top. Tatum is ready to become our superstar. Walker is an awesome #2. Brown/Hayward are both strong. Smart is Smart. Theis has been good. I like some of their young pieces. They need a really solid veteran that fits the modern game.
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Post#353 » by snowman » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:35 pm

ddb wrote:this draft stinks. Celtics are young, but also really good. They need to flip picks/assets and bring in a veteran that can help push them over the top. Tatum is ready to become our superstar. Walker is an awesome #2. Brown/Hayward are both strong. Smart is Smart. Theis has been good. I like some of their young pieces. They need a really solid veteran that fits the modern game.


I agree. Leave our top 10 -12 guys alone and let them grow together. Tatum, Walker. Brown, Hayward, Theis, Smart, and add to that Langford, Waters, G. Williams, R. Williams, Fall and Kanter. Use our pick and the Bucks pick along with some combo of Edwards, Wannamaker, Semi, Poirier and Green to get 1 decent vet to come off the bench along with the guys listed above. Then use the Memphis pick on BPA.
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Post#354 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:41 pm

There's maybe a handful of guys I think capable of cracking the 12 man roster and most of them are older players likely to be available in the 2nd round.
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Post#355 » by 100proof » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:27 am

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Post#356 » by winsomme2 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:03 pm

ddb wrote:this draft stinks. Celtics are young, but also really good. They need to flip picks/assets and bring in a veteran that can help push them over the top. Tatum is ready to become our superstar. Walker is an awesome #2. Brown/Hayward are both strong. Smart is Smart. Theis has been good. I like some of their young pieces. They need a really solid veteran that fits the modern game.


There is a shortage at the top for sure. Bad draft to have a top 5 pick.

BUT the middle of the first round IMO is loaded. And it's all gonna be about scouting because there's such a shortened season.

A couple of players that I think are actually highly underrated:

Kira Lewis
Tyrell Terry

Terry could be a huge steal. Nice handle. Good passer. Crafty around the basket. LETHAL 3pt and FT shooter.
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Post#357 » by ddb » Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:47 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
ddb wrote:this draft stinks. Celtics are young, but also really good. They need to flip picks/assets and bring in a veteran that can help push them over the top. Tatum is ready to become our superstar. Walker is an awesome #2. Brown/Hayward are both strong. Smart is Smart. Theis has been good. I like some of their young pieces. They need a really solid veteran that fits the modern game.


There is a shortage at the top for sure. Bad draft to have a top 5 pick.

BUT the middle of the first round IMO is loaded. And it's all gonna be about scouting because there's such a shortened season.

A couple of players that I think are actually highly underrated:

Kira Lewis
Tyrell Terry

Terry could be a huge steal. Nice handle. Good passer. Crafty around the basket. LETHAL 3pt and FT shooter.


I'm 100% on board with packaging picks, couple other pieces and getting that vet. It's time. This team is VERY close. Warriors went and got Iggy and that pushed them over the top. Celts need to make that kind of move
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Post#358 » by 100proof » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:30 pm

ddb wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
ddb wrote:this draft stinks. Celtics are young, but also really good. They need to flip picks/assets and bring in a veteran that can help push them over the top. Tatum is ready to become our superstar. Walker is an awesome #2. Brown/Hayward are both strong. Smart is Smart. Theis has been good. I like some of their young pieces. They need a really solid veteran that fits the modern game.


There is a shortage at the top for sure. Bad draft to have a top 5 pick.

BUT the middle of the first round IMO is loaded. And it's all gonna be about scouting because there's such a shortened season.

A couple of players that I think are actually highly underrated:

Kira Lewis
Tyrell Terry

Terry could be a huge steal. Nice handle. Good passer. Crafty around the basket. LETHAL 3pt and FT shooter.


I'm 100% on board with packaging picks, couple other pieces and getting that vet. It's time. This team is VERY close. Warriors went and got Iggy and that pushed them over the top. Celts need to make that kind of move


We are not that close.

We are injury prone, have a front court that requires work, have lacking depth ay pg/sf/pf

Have little capspace no real middle valued assets to trade. (5-10 mill)

Warriors had steph, who trumps everyone on this team.
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Post#359 » by neno » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:52 pm

Tough to get the vets we want with what we got to offer, some shooters and defenders in our range bpa good bye Porier etc
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