DowJones wrote:Pointgod wrote:michaelm wrote:As an outside observer this seems very true. I have been watching snippets of both Fox and Friends and CNN (not for extended periods, there are limits to my curiosity) and both seem agenda driven, and more interested in praising or criticising Trump’s handling of the crisis than in what is actually transpiring.
Here’s the thing we’re both outside observers but this isn’t a both sides issue. Trump has been uniquely unqualified to lead in a moment of crisis and he’s screwed this situation up in almost every way imaginable. I don’t watch CNN, but they do provide credible experts on the channel if you don’t want to tune into their opinion segments. I watch MSNBC and they’re really good providing expert analysis but also talking the issue from many different points of view which includes people on the frontlines, policy makers, people from past administrations who were in charge of pandemic responses and unique views on how it disproportionately affects people of colour. Meanwhile Fox News is pushing unfounded claims that it was created in a lab and has idiots like Dr. Phil on there incorrectly claiming more people die in swimming pools than from coronavirus. You can’t talk about the response without criticizing the lack of leadership, it’s plain facts not agenda driven media hype. I think you mentioned you’re from Australia. Well I think your PM is absolute dog ****, but at least you can probably point out specific steps he took to limit the spread and how he actually showed leadership through tone and actions. You don’t have to spin anything because the facts and results can support the argument. Not so much with Trump. The bar is so low with him that if he had shut his mouth and let the experts make decisions he’d be getting all the credit from supposedly bias outlets like CNN. This isn’t inherently political but neither Trump or his supporters can admit that he’s making an extremely tough situation even worse. If you want to get a better idea of what’s happening on the ground in America you should watch the Governor’s addresses.
I am stunned by your stance on MSNBC.
Everyone in America knows that MSNBC is to the left what FoxNews is to the right. One of their popular hosts literally said it was his goal to turn Donald Trump’s political bones into dust. How is that fair reporting?
That’s not remotely true at all. You may believe it but reality does not support this stance. I get people might not like the political opinion but MSNBC actually has people who know what the **** they are talking about on. They have actual experts on and people who have worked in previous administrations. They’re also balanced and give credit to both Republican and Democratic Governors that are showing true leadership.
On the other hand Fox News is pure state propaganda. There’s no left equivalent. According to Fox News coronavirus was a Democratic hoax to hurt Trump. it go so bad that they fired an News anchor who said as much. Their whole programming is built around defending Trump and Republicans no matter how stupid. They have complete morons like Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz on spreading misinformation. They know that Trump’s re-election is tied to the economy so they started the “sacrifice lives for the economy” talking point. The problem with being in the tank for Trump is that the Coronavirus is simultaneously a Democratic hoax, yet at the same time his response has been perfect 10/10.
I guarantee if one person spent a week watching only MSNBC as their news source and another person watched Fox News, the person watching MSNBC would come away much more informed and prepared to handle the epidemic.