2020 NFL DRAFT OFFICIAL thread

[wco81]

I'm glad sickness settled in with the ai-yuck stuff, we saw what happened with nick the disappointment bosa. It's a good omen.

Nick Bosa certainly surpassed my expectations, but I did say I thought he'd be better than Joey.

Again, I don't think Aiyuk will be a bad or even average WR. I think he'll be good. But I'm still probably gonna be pissed about the players who went after him.

Yeah, it's Deebo all over again. Sure, Samuel is a nice player. But we could have taken him 15 picks later, or ended up with a very similar, but arguably better, guy in Brown. Except this time we traded up. And we didn't have to. I get the concern about the Packers taking him, but they weren't going to (I would be extremely surprised if any team would pass on what they deem a first round QB for any WR). I can't see the Hawks taking him with Lockett and Metcalf on the roster. The Ravens were relatively unlikely to go WR. WR is way down on the Titans' list of needs. And WR might be Miami's best position - granted that isn't saying much. In all likelihood he was going to fall, just as, in all likelihood, Samuel would have been there if we had traded back.

People are critical of the Packers.

If ARod plays at least 3 more seasons, , they're going to probably have to move Love rather than give him a 5th year option. Or settle for 2 years of his rookie contract at most.

Unless that young coach is ready to dump Rodgers in a year or two, because Rodgers doesn't play within the system any more.

[CrimsonCrew]

Hey Crims. Hope all is well with you and the fam. Stay safe.

Yeah, I sorta agree with how coaches tend to fabricate things after the fact. However, history (Shanny’s in particular) has shown that his ratings of players is concerning. Pettis > Kirk; Deebo > A.J. Brown. There may be a kernel of truth to his statement in regard to his player evaluations (WRs).

We're doing as well as can be expected. Got three little ones at home now, including one who arrived in late February, so it's been a handful, but we're managing. Hope you're doing well too.

Oh wow! Congratulations brother. Blessings!!

That was my reaction when I found out #3 was on his way. Thanks. It's been a whirlwind, but exciting times. Can't wait until I can sleep through the night again....

[CrimsonCrew]

Watched two of Kinlaw's full games, against Georgia and Alabama. My thoughts:

Kinlaw is clearly a gifted player physically. There are times that he wins and makes the opposing OL look absolutely silly. Several times each game he just destroyed the guy across from him. He can split double teams and drive players back into the pocket/QB. That said, he's a bit inconsistent, or was in these two games anyway. He can play a little high at times, and he seems to lack much nuance in his pass rush. He had almost no discernible countermove if his first move didn't work. He just kept kind of bull rushing or try to rag-doll the OL, usually with minimal effect. When he wins quickly, it is pretty awesome to watch. When he doesn't win quickly, he often doesn't impact the play at all.

He's definitely at his best attacking up the field and penetrating. He has good speed off the snap for a DT, and great power in his hands when they land. But he frequently struggled taking on double teams. That's especially true in the run game, where he seemed like something of a liability (again, this is just two games against good OL competition). When doubled, he did not effectively hold his ground. When singled, he usually held his own or won, but even when he was in position to make a TFL, he generally could not stack-and-shed, more often flailing as the RB as he ran past. This was pretty pronounced in one red zone series against Alabama, I think, where he was in great position to make a big play both times, but couldn't get his hands on the back. Obviously today's NFL defense is all about pass rush, so I'm fine with that, but it is something to keep an eye on. As a three-technique, hopefully he won't have to take on double teams too often, but Buckner did do a fair bit of that.

Ultimately, the dude has major upside, and that's exciting. There is some bust potential there, but I like what I saw for the most part. My reservations have to do with the positional value rather than the player. DT just isn't an impact position, and we are thin at OL and DB after years of neglecting those positions (other than the McGlinchey pick, but that came in tandem with trading Trent Brown so the position was a huge need).

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Tee Higgins to the Bengals is a great place to go and dominate. That WR room is one of the better ones in the league now with AJ Green, John Ross, Tyler Boyd, Tate, and now Higgins.

[Bald Bull]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/136291-brandon-aiyuks-49ers-really-strong-nfl-scouting-director/

Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated wrote the following within his Friday column
One more fit that's considered really, really strong: Arizona State WR Brandon Aiyuk going to the Niners. "He's a true route-runner, and he's the best RAC [run after catch] receiver in the draft," said one AFC college scouting director. "That's ridiculous that they got him, and they'll be able to line him up with Deebo [Samuel] and [George] Kittle. He's strong, he can make people miss and he's a real threat in the return game. I'd be very surprised if that's a miss." It's also worth mentioning how good Kyle Shanahan is at identifying and coaching receivers, as part of all this.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/136291-brandon-aiyuks-49ers-really-strong-nfl-scouting-director/

Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated wrote the following within his Friday column
One more fit that's considered really, really strong: Arizona State WR Brandon Aiyuk going to the Niners. "He's a true route-runner, and he's the best RAC [run after catch] receiver in the draft," said one AFC college scouting director. "That's ridiculous that they got him, and they'll be able to line him up with Deebo [Samuel] and [George] Kittle. He's strong, he can make people miss and he's a real threat in the return game. I'd be very surprised if that's a miss." It's also worth mentioning how good Kyle Shanahan is at identifying and coaching receivers, as part of all this.

Ruggs, Lamb, and Shenault were better RAC receivers. Aiyuk isn’t a slouch at that but IMO there were 3 receivers better than him in that particular area.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Robert Hunt to the dolphins. Somewhat of an underwhelming pick for them IMO, but I get it...! You need to protect your fragile franchise QB.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Ross Blacklock to the Houston Texans is a great pick for them.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Jonathan Taylor is my #1 rated RB in this class. Good job Colts!

[I_am_1z]

Jonathan Taylor is my #1 rated RB in this class. Good job Colts!

SMH, after all that JK Dobbins talk. JK is the best RB in this draft, definitely never better than saquon though

[Samurai]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/136291-brandon-aiyuks-49ers-really-strong-nfl-scouting-director/

Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated wrote the following within his Friday column
One more fit that's considered really, really strong: Arizona State WR Brandon Aiyuk going to the Niners. "He's a true route-runner, and he's the best RAC [run after catch] receiver in the draft," said one AFC college scouting director. "That's ridiculous that they got him, and they'll be able to line him up with Deebo [Samuel] and [George] Kittle. He's strong, he can make people miss and he's a real threat in the return game. I'd be very surprised if that's a miss." It's also worth mentioning how good Kyle Shanahan is at identifying and coaching receivers, as part of all this.

Ruggs, Lamb, and Shenault were better RAC receivers. Aiyuk isn’t a slouch at that but IMO there were 3 receivers better than him in that particular area.

I guess that depends on how you measure RAC. Aiyuk led all the draft receivers with an average of 9.9 yards after the catch. So if you measuring by yards, it would be Aiyuk. But if you are measuring by something else, then others could be higher. Whether you are going by yards or some other measurement, all 4 are dynamic playmakers after the catch who are threats to score every time they touch the ball. They just do it differently: Ruggs does his Flash impression, Lamb and Aiyuk can shake and bake, and Shenault will just run over/through you.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Laviska Shenault to the Jags. There goes the steal of the draft.

The Jags always steals my favorite receivers. I was pretty high on D.J. Chark too when he came out.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Jonathan Taylor is my #1 rated RB in this class. Good job Colts!

SMH, after all that JK Dobbins talk. JK is the best RB in this draft, definitely never better than saquon though

J.K. is still an elite back in my eyes.

Cristian McCaffrey > Sequan. By the way RunCMC is still playing in the league, but you insisted he wouldn’t have lasted 2 years in the league.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Grant Delpit is a great player. Should have gone in the first round.

[I_am_1z]

Jonathan Taylor is my #1 rated RB in this class. Good job Colts!

SMH, after all that JK Dobbins talk. JK is the best RB in this draft, definitely never better than saquon though

J.K. is still an elite back in my eyes.

Cristian McCaffrey > Sequan. By the way RunCMC is still playing in the league, but you insisted he wouldn’t have lasted 2 years in the league.

Saquon is still the top back in the league when healthy. If he was force fed the way McCaffery is, I have no doubt he'd do the same. I'm also comfortable saying I'm wrong. You had Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, and others (Stephen Carr?) above or on the same level as Saquon. It's okay to be wrong with one prediction, but you literally have a list you still haven't admitted to being wrong about.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Antoine Winfield Jr. is the type of player Chris Pozz would’ve been high on.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

A.J. Espenensa is still on the board. I would hate to see him go to the Seahawks.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

K.J. Hamler, Jerry Jeudy, Fant, and Courtland. Drew Lock is smiling from ear to ear. And they have Melvin Gordon. That offense is looking very scary now.

[CrimsonCrew]

Laviska Shenault to the Jags. There goes the steal of the draft.

The Jags always steals my favorite receivers. I was pretty high on D.J. Chark too when he came out.

Only if he can stay healthy. But he should be a nice complement for Chark.

[Hangman_52]

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